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Celebrating the relationship between astronomy, faith & Islam. Monthly show at Royal Observatory Greenwich. Working towards a united Islamic calendar in the UK.

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SECOND DAY MOON A quick video explaining why today’s Ramadan crescent isn’t a “second day moon” - with actual images of what the moon looked like yesterday! SECOND DAY MOON - WHY NO MUSLIM SHOULD USE THIS PHRASE. Many Muslims throw around the term “second day moon”; but this is a very poor term. The second someone uses it, it exposes that they are neither experienced in the science nor Islamic understanding of the moon or lunar calendar. Here you can find also a basic description of why this is a poor term: In summary: the Islamic calendar begins based on moonsighting, not (as inexperienced people sometimes say) based on guesses - attempting to correlate moon thickness to the day of visibility. There is no standard correlation and this is a scientifically poor method. Please see the above video & article. Perhaps more concerningly is the Islamic angle. It appears that the use of such a phrase was heavily warned against by the Prophet (SAW). It was said that people using the phrase “second day moon” was a sign of the end of times. Indeed, the use of this phrase does indicate a disconnect from nature, the moon and its rhythms, combined with a false surety that is so unnatural, it almost seems apocalyptic. The Islamic sources for this could be found here: Abu'l-Bakhtari reported: We went out to perform Umra and when we encamped in the valley of Nakhla, we tried to see the new moon. Some of the people said: It was three nights old, and others (said) that it was two nights old. We then met Ibn 'Abbas and told him we had seen the new moon, but that some of the people said it was three nights old and others that it was two nights old. He asked on which night we had seen it; and when we told him we had seen it on such and such night, he said the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ) had said: Verily Allah deferred it till the time it is seen, so it is to be reckoned from the night you saw it. حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ حُصَيْنٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ، مُرَّةَ عَنْ أَبِي الْبَخْتَرِيِّ، قَالَ خَرَجْنَا لِلْعُمْرَةِ فَلَمَّا نَزَلْنَا بِبَطْنِ نَخْلَةَ - قَالَ - تَرَاءَيْنَا الْهِلاَلَ فَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ هُوَ ابْنُ ثَلاَثٍ . وَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ هُوَ ابْنُ لَيْلَتَيْنِ قَالَ فَلَقِينَا ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ فَقُلْنَا إِنَّا رَأَيْنَا الْهِلاَلَ فَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ هُوَ ابْنُ ثَلاَثٍ وَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ هُوَ ابْنُ لَيْلَتَيْنِ . فَقَالَ أَىَّ لَيْلَةٍ رَأَيْتُمُوهُ قَالَ فَقُلْنَا لَيْلَةَ كَذَا وَكَذَا . فَقَالَ إِنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " إِنَّ اللَّهَ مَدَّهُ لِلرُّؤْيَةِ فَهُوَ لِلَيْلَةِ رَأَيْتُمُوهُ " . Reference : Sahih Muslim 1088a In-book reference : Book 13, Hadith 35 عن أنس بن مالك يرفعه إلى النبى قال : ان من أمارات الساعة أن يرى الهلال لليلة ، فيقال لليلتين. {مجمع الزوائد لإبن أبى بكر الهيثمى جلد7 ص325} انظر – البانى : صحيح الجامع الصغير (5/214 ح5775) اشراط الساعة (ص194) Sayyidina Anas bin Malik (رضي الله عنه) related that the Prophet (ﷺ) stated: ‘Verily, a sign of Qiyamah is that the crescent wikl be seen on the 1st night, yet people people will say: ‘This is the moon of the 2nd night.’ (Majma'uz-Zawa'id, vol 7, p325) In summary: MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT USE THE PHRASE “SECOND DAY MOON”, for both scientific reasons and Islamic reasons. Anyone with any experience of moonsighting will never use this phrase.

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*NEW CRESCENT SOCIETY: USE OF OPTICAL AIDS??* Please watch our video which explains our position - and which has always been our position! NOTES from video: There are a range of opinions about this topic. We accept all these as valid. NCS takes the most traditional method of using naked eye sightings only. Whilst we use technology to help us sight the moon, the months only begin when a human sees the crescent with their naked eye. Why? CLOSEST TO SUNNAH AND MOST UNIFYING: - NCS are working for a united calendar. - Naked eye sightings is the closest position to the sunnah, and the one that everybody will agree on. - Many will not accept telescopes or astrocameras or CCDs or other forms of optical aids. Yet everyone accepts sunnah of naked eye. Thus adhering closely to the sunnah brings unity insha allah. MOST HARMONIOUS WITH NATURE AND THE PAST: - If you use technology, you will move the calendar a day earlier than nature. It would mean you are bringing the invisible moon into visible. - For example, imagine the moon at the time of the Prophet SAW was seen on a given month on a Tuesday; but telescopes would move the moon to a Monday. Optical aids mean that the calendar out of phase with how the Prophet SAW and all subsequent generations saw the moon MOVES CALENDAR AWAY FROM COMMUNITY: - The spirit of the calendar is one of simplicity and community. - The Introduction of expensive tech would move the calendar away from the hands of the whole community into the hands of specialist astronomers - In certain countries, for example, it appears that NO ONE on the country sees the moon except for the 2-3 same astronomers every year. You deprive the community of the moon. - The spirit of the calendar is that EVERYONE should see the moon. Indeed in many law schools hence some islamic books talk of “large crowds” should see the moon with their eyes for a month to commence. Whenever you are starting - ramadan mubarak. May it be a month of blessing, forgiveness and compassion.

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