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I'm sorry but it's such a braindead, pointless, utterly inane take that for some reason people like to parrot. This guy said Drogba wouldn't SURVIVE in the premier league today (insane). He takes the idea that "standards improve with time" (valid) and applies it like a sledgehammer, without an ounce of thought. Messi struggled far more in the 2010 world cup (still in his athletic prime), than he did in 2022 (washed). So did football actually get worse? Or are performances and stats influenced by dozens of contextual factors that these simplistic era arguments completely ignore? Maybe it's not as simple as 'he's more modern therefore better' At what point does football 'get away' from the upper echelon players? Maldini played across 3 decades at a high level. Drogba thrived in the exact same era that Messi and Ronaldo did. I can be intentionally obtuse and point out that Salah thrived in the modern PL, while he struggled for Chelsea barely a year after Drogba lifted the UCL. How does this dude square these things? if the past was so much worse, then surely every top player today should've destroyed it when they were actually coming through right? Or at least in their 20s? Danny frickin Welbeck is still bossing it, but I suppose Rooney would struggle? I have never seen any indication that a top player can't translate at least 90% of their value from one era to the next. The only thing that stops them is athletic decline. I cant believe I have to explain this - but even if it's granted that standards today are better, that doesn't necessarily mean a goal today is more valuable. Those are two separate things lmao. There have been simply more goals from ~2010 onwards, and especially the last few years. For a plethora of reasons (more refined build-up, tactical advances, rule changes, more expensive squads/superteams, greater disparity between top teams and the rest etc). The mid 2000s averaged about 2.6 goals in the PL (around that if i remember right). The last few years it's been over 3(!!). If anything goals are EASIER to come by for the top forwards today (we can quibble with semantics, and it wont be true in ALL cases, but generally this is true). When watching old games - yes u see some practices, or some spaces that wouldn't exist today. At the same time, I often see shocking defending, or certain spaces open up today that wouldn't have existed in the past, so let's not oversell how good defending is now, it's not a case of 'every single thing is definitely way better now' either. Evolution is not always linear. Regardless, doesnt it naturally follow that higher standards, owed to better data/training etc would allow those past players to also scale up? Isn't that just a super obvious conclusion to come to? So what is the point of constantly saying "things are way better" or "this ex player wouldnt survive" other than to smugly and ignorantly disparage past talent? What other point is being made? I've attached a clip of Arteta (who seems to be Alex's lord and saviour pbuh going by his YT thumbnails) saying that he would be a better player today with all these modern advancements.

I'm sorry but it's such a braindead, pointless, utterly inane take that for some reason people like to parrot. This guy said Drogba wouldn't SURVIVE in the premier league today (insane). He takes the idea that "standards improve with time" (valid) and applies it like a sledgehammer, without an ounce of thought. Messi struggled far more in the 2010 world cup (still in his athletic prime), than he did in 2022 (washed). So did football actually get worse? Or are performances and stats influenced by dozens of contextual factors that these simplistic era arguments completely ignore? Maybe it's not as simple as 'he's more modern therefore better' At what point does football 'get away' from the upper echelon players? Maldini played across 3 decades at a high level. Drogba thrived in the exact same era that Messi and Ronaldo did. I can be intentionally obtuse and point out that Salah thrived in the modern PL, while he struggled for Chelsea barely a year after Drogba lifted the UCL. How does this dude square these things? if the past was so much worse, then surely every top player today should've destroyed it when they were actually coming through right? Or at least in their 20s? Danny frickin Welbeck is still bossing it, but I suppose Rooney would struggle? I have never seen any indication that a top player can't translate at least 90% of their value from one era to the next. The only thing that stops them is athletic decline. I cant believe I have to explain this - but even if it's granted that standards today are better, that doesn't necessarily mean a goal today is more valuable. Those are two separate things lmao. There have been simply more goals from ~2010 onwards, and especially the last few years. For a plethora of reasons (more refined build-up, tactical advances, rule changes, more expensive squads/superteams, greater disparity between top teams and the rest etc). The mid 2000s averaged about 2.6 goals in the PL (around that if i remember right). The last few years it's been over 3(!!). If anything goals are EASIER to come by for the top forwards today (we can quibble with semantics, and it wont be true in ALL cases, but generally this is true). When watching old games - yes u see some practices, or some spaces that wouldn't exist today. At the same time, I often see shocking defending, or certain spaces open up today that wouldn't have existed in the past, so let's not oversell how good defending is now, it's not a case of 'every single thing is definitely way better now' either. Evolution is not always linear. Regardless, doesnt it naturally follow that higher standards, owed to better data/training etc would allow those past players to also scale up? Isn't that just a super obvious conclusion to come to? So what is the point of constantly saying "things are way better" or "this ex player wouldnt survive" other than to smugly and ignorantly disparage past talent? What other point is being made? I've attached a clip of Arteta (who seems to be Alex's lord and saviour pbuh going by his YT thumbnails) saying that he would be a better player today with all these modern advancements.

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Foden is a great player, easy on the eye But it is BAFFLING how pundits seem to bend over for him. They'd praise him for picking his nose if it looked classy. Meanwhile Saka, who has outperformed him consistently, is seen as an afterthought This is how false legacies are built

Foden is a great player, easy on the eye But it is BAFFLING how pundits seem to bend over for him. They'd praise him for picking his nose if it looked classy. Meanwhile Saka, who has outperformed him consistently, is seen as an afterthought This is how false legacies are built

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Thierry Henry playmaking 04-06
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Thierry Henry playmaking 04-06

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2,814,096 views • 1 month ago

Henry has violated virtually every GOAT level defender - it's not embarrassing if nobody got spared
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Henry has violated virtually every GOAT level defender - it's not embarrassing if nobody got spared

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305,294 views • 8 days ago

real ballers do juggling tricks to actually beat opponents and progress the ball
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real ballers do juggling tricks to actually beat opponents and progress the ball

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1,702,636 views • 2 months ago

Thierry Henry earned his arrogance
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Thierry Henry earned his arrogance

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2,121,599 views • 1 year ago

I could show Henry scoring a million times from similar positions, what’re we talking about lmao??
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I could show Henry scoring a million times from similar positions, what’re we talking about lmao??

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1,028,329 views • 8 months ago

Thierry Henry is the smoothest player of all time
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Thierry Henry is the smoothest player of all time

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1,910,068 views • 1 year ago

does anyone claim Henry was SUPER important in 98? Everyone knows he didn't play the final. Still played 366 mins scored 3 goals as a raw young player, not bad Anyway, here's Henry's dribbles in the 2006 world cup and 2000 euros final
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does anyone claim Henry was SUPER important in 98? Everyone knows he didn't play the final. Still played 366 mins scored 3 goals as a raw young player, not bad Anyway, here's Henry's dribbles in the 2006 world cup and 2000 euros final

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164,511 views • 1 month ago

Thierry Henry - Skyfall (reupload)
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Thierry Henry - Skyfall (reupload)

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914,272 views • 10 months ago

Henry dogwalking Gattuso in that game
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Henry dogwalking Gattuso in that game

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89,791 views • 29 days ago

Thierry Henry - Influence
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Thierry Henry - Influence

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798,075 views • 9 months ago

Mesut Ozil forcing his teammates to score in one touch
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Mesut Ozil forcing his teammates to score in one touch

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393,510 views • 5 months ago

Forget all the well known goals, Henry has COUNTLESS random bangers that nobody knows about. With huge variety too commentators used to say he never scored ordinary goals
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Forget all the well known goals, Henry has COUNTLESS random bangers that nobody knows about. With huge variety too commentators used to say he never scored ordinary goals

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118,350 views • 2 months ago

It's because g/a doesn't capture stuff like this. It was all the little things he would do game after game even beyond the flashy stuff. The unique combo of immense physical power masked by elegance and unending flair.
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It's because g/a doesn't capture stuff like this. It was all the little things he would do game after game even beyond the flashy stuff. The unique combo of immense physical power masked by elegance and unending flair.

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651,621 views • 1 year ago

Watching Henry when he wants to recover the ball is insane. The most unique athlete in football history
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Watching Henry when he wants to recover the ball is insane. The most unique athlete in football history

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167,918 views • 3 months ago

Thierry Henry vs GOAT defenders (updated)
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Thierry Henry vs GOAT defenders (updated)

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417,097 views • 9 months ago

Henry exquisitely using his distal phalanx vs Spurs
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Henry exquisitely using his distal phalanx vs Spurs

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151,284 views • 4 months ago

Thierry Henry - smooth skills and dribbles
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Thierry Henry - smooth skills and dribbles

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504,688 views • 1 year ago

Saying: "he's got the entire spurs defence to take on here...he's capable of doing it" just before he did it was pretty cool.
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Saying: "he's got the entire spurs defence to take on here...he's capable of doing it" just before he did it was pretty cool.

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383,262 views • 1 year ago

Listen to the commentary and the crowd's reaction as Henry comes off the bench to replace Van Persie. The guy was like a superhero for a few years.
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Listen to the commentary and the crowd's reaction as Henry comes off the bench to replace Van Persie. The guy was like a superhero for a few years.

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478,505 views • 1 year ago

Thierry Henry and headers were so weird. He was tall, and had a HUGE leap, as shown here. Yet he barely scored with his head. Andy Gray remarks a couple times how odd it is. Wenger later explains why in a documentary.
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Thierry Henry and headers were so weird. He was tall, and had a HUGE leap, as shown here. Yet he barely scored with his head. Andy Gray remarks a couple times how odd it is. Wenger later explains why in a documentary.

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419,437 views • 1 year ago