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Engineer, PhD Fluid Mechanics, @brakingbiaspod, ✝️, Proud husband and dad, 🇹🇷/🇺🇸 lived in 🇩🇪 🇬🇧 Motorsport Tech with a side of humor.

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To presume that there is an inherent flaw in the RBR Macarena wing design due to the rotation of its flap leading to Max’s issues is fundamentally flawed because Hadjar hasn’t had an issue with it yet. It’s not mental gymnastics folks…it’s engagement bait…. And it doesn’t make sense from an aerodynamic standpoint…either. 😁 Simple thought exercise. Pressure is force acting on an area. Pressure builds as air molecules crash onto an aero surface e. Force acts perpendicular to the surface and can be resolved in drag force and downforce (or lift) force components. Where is the pressure on the RBR wing just before it closes? Don’t believe me? Also my mate Balaskó Dominik did an excellent CFD simulation on his LinkedIn page showing this exactly.

To presume that there is an inherent flaw in the RBR Macarena wing design due to the rotation of its flap leading to Max’s issues is fundamentally flawed because Hadjar hasn’t had an issue with it yet. It’s not mental gymnastics folks…it’s engagement bait…. And it doesn’t make sense from an aerodynamic standpoint…either. 😁 Simple thought exercise. Pressure is force acting on an area. Pressure builds as air molecules crash onto an aero surface e. Force acts perpendicular to the surface and can be resolved in drag force and downforce (or lift) force components. Where is the pressure on the RBR wing just before it closes? Don’t believe me? Also my mate Balaskó Dominik did an excellent CFD simulation on his LinkedIn page showing this exactly.

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Actual Oracle Red Bull Racing team radio from turn 1 of the #MexicoCityGP released finally!! (Sound up)

Actual Oracle Red Bull Racing team radio from turn 1 of the #MexicoCityGP released finally!! (Sound up)

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I’ll be the first to tell you that spray doesn’t necessarily capture smaller scale turbulent structures. But dear Lord, look t that upwash from the floorboards (just up from the arrow)!! Wow! Now we can see why they run their side pod so bluff. That thing is just pumping. FIA is going to love to see that. 🤯🤯

I’ll be the first to tell you that spray doesn’t necessarily capture smaller scale turbulent structures. But dear Lord, look t that upwash from the floorboards (just up from the arrow)!! Wow! Now we can see why they run their side pod so bluff. That thing is just pumping. FIA is going to love to see that. 🤯🤯

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People often ask me, "where can I find great information on motorsports and aerodynamics?" So how about a thread of some of my favorites? And no, I don't get paid to endorse these. I just think F1 Tech is a great place to share knowledge! Also, this is NOT an exhaustive list, but some that stick out to me. Feel free to add yours as well below! Video below by Vyssion and JJN.

People often ask me, "where can I find great information on motorsports and aerodynamics?" So how about a thread of some of my favorites? And no, I don't get paid to endorse these. I just think F1 Tech is a great place to share knowledge! Also, this is NOT an exhaustive list, but some that stick out to me. Feel free to add yours as well below! Video below by Vyssion and JJN.

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And aerodynamic work of art as well.

And aerodynamic work of art as well.

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Sky Crew: “Max’s already done his lap on a new set. That’s it right? He can’t go faster now…” Max: goes faster….

Sky Crew: “Max’s already done his lap on a new set. That’s it right? He can’t go faster now…” Max: goes faster….

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That’s Ferrari SF-26 aurrrraaaa

That’s Ferrari SF-26 aurrrraaaa

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Great simulation of the Ferrari Döner wing posted on LinkedIn by Dominik Bolasko. There are still some irregularities in this simulation, like the wing profiles being different than the actual Döner wing, but it looks to be one of the more accurate sims I have seen so far. One very interesting aspect of this simulation is the magnitude of the flow field disruption from the intermediate sail position. All DRS flaps naturally have a hysteresis with respect to flow recovery and attachment on flap closure. Hysteresis, in the simplest terms, is the difference in the value you get from the same device in one setting compared to another. In this case what we are looking at is the downforce the wing give you before opening, and after opening. So why would you have hysteresis? Well the flow will take some time to recover snd reattach after a big geometry change bringing back the full load (downforce) to the rear of the car for the braking zone. This exists for all cars that have a flap geometry change like this. However, the magnitude of the flow disruption can further delay this recovery causing the car to not re-establish the full load potential in the first phase of braking. So, I could certainly believe that the hysteresis for this type of wing would be greater than that of a conventional flap because of how much flow disturbance you have from that intermediate sail position. Meaning the rear of the Ferrari on initial braking could have some nervousness as the flow takes more time to re-attach and recover the load on the rear wing. In fact, this is exactly what Dominik found in his simulations (image 2). I did speak with someone with a team, and this was one aspect they indeed had considered as a negative to this design when they first saw it. It’s possible that’s part of what was being tested when they ran it during testing in Bahrain. Do you think we will see this wing again during the season?

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Something so sinister about the AMR26 in all black.

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