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In just ten seconds, Christian Nationalist Pastor Andrew Isker essentially argues that culture is the primary causal force behind salvation, rather than God’s eternal decree. This places him outside Reformed theology. Isker implicitly denies: 1. God’s sovereignty in salvation. If salvation hinges on the presence of a Christian culture, then God is no longer the decisive cause of anyone’s salvation, culture is. 2. Unconditional election. He makes election effectively conditional upon cultural environment. 3. The effectual call. He treats the effectual call as fragile and dependent on cultural support, not as the irresistible work of the Spirit. 4. Christ’s ability to save “to the uttermost.” In his view: – Christ’s ability to save is weakened in secular environments. – Christ’s saving power is limited by man or culture. – External conditions (culture) overpower divine grace (election). This reduces Christ’s saving power from “uttermost” to situational. If secularism can “defeat” Christ’s saving work, then Christ does not save “to the uttermost.” And he replaces all of this with cultural determinism, in which culture determines or controls spiritual outcomes, including whether people are saved or lost.

In just ten seconds, Christian Nationalist Pastor Andrew Isker essentially argues that culture is the primary causal force behind salvation, rather than God’s eternal decree. This places him outside Reformed theology. Isker implicitly denies: 1. God’s sovereignty in salvation. If salvation hinges on the presence of a Christian culture, then God is no longer the decisive cause of anyone’s salvation, culture is. 2. Unconditional election. He makes election effectively conditional upon cultural environment. 3. The effectual call. He treats the effectual call as fragile and dependent on cultural support, not as the irresistible work of the Spirit. 4. Christ’s ability to save “to the uttermost.” In his view: – Christ’s ability to save is weakened in secular environments. – Christ’s saving power is limited by man or culture. – External conditions (culture) overpower divine grace (election). This reduces Christ’s saving power from “uttermost” to situational. If secularism can “defeat” Christ’s saving work, then Christ does not save “to the uttermost.” And he replaces all of this with cultural determinism, in which culture determines or controls spiritual outcomes, including whether people are saved or lost.

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Having established that Eric Conn (and Brian Sauvé) use material from the Stone Choir podcast to claim a Jewish woman pushed for the removal of head coverings from Christian worship, I’d like to remind everyone that just months ago they claimed they had never listened to SC. Again, I, along with some Stone Choir fans, am open to being proven wrong. Some quotes from the video: “Nazi? I don’t even know what that means.” “I’ve never listened to even a minute of a Stone Choir podcast. Not even one minute, not even ten seconds. I’ve never hit play on a Stone Choir podcast.” “We have leadership cohorts with, you know, pretty much all of the men in our church who are actively members and involved in parish events. We’ve talked about World War II, Nazism, anti-Semitism, the Jews.” “Because, number one, I’ve actually never listened to a Stone Choir podcast, so I’m like, well, I feel kind of stupid weighing in on a conversation (antisemitism, Nazism, and the Stone Choir) that I’m not an expert in and have no experience with. How can I possibly denounce it? Now, I will say I’ve seen a lot of tweets from Corey and the other, uh, is it Woe?” “To be clear, I think in our discussions with some of the pastors in Moscow, I was concerned because they’re saying, ‘Hey, there’s a huge problem,’ and I was like, ok, maybe there’s something I’m missing, because in our context this isn’t a problem. None of the people that I’ve talked to are, you know, ready to become Nazis, and there’s no hatred of the Jews. I’m just not seeing that.” “Are you guys harbouring Nazis?” No. “Are you Nazis?” No. “Are you anti-Semites?” No. “Are you avid fans of Stone Choir?” We’ve not listened to it. (Watch the full 10 minute video. It’s in the comment.)

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