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I'm sorry but it's such a braindead, pointless, utterly inane take that for some reason people like to parrot. This guy said Drogba wouldn't SURVIVE in the premier league today (insane). He takes the idea that "standards improve with time" (valid) and applies it like a sledgehammer, without an ounce of thought. Messi struggled far more in the 2010 world cup (still in his athletic prime), than he did in 2022 (washed). So did football actually get worse? Or are performances and stats influenced by dozens of contextual factors that these simplistic era arguments completely ignore? Maybe it's not as simple as 'he's more modern therefore better' At what point does football 'get away' from the upper echelon players? Maldini played across 3 decades at a high level. Drogba thrived in the exact same era that Messi and Ronaldo did. I can be intentionally obtuse and point out that Salah thrived in the modern PL, while he struggled for Chelsea barely a year after Drogba lifted the UCL. How does this dude square these things? if the past was so much worse, then surely every top player today should've destroyed it when they were actually coming through right? Or at least in their 20s? Danny frickin Welbeck is still bossing it, but I suppose Rooney would struggle? I have never seen any indication that a top player can't translate at least 90% of their value from one era to the next. The only thing that stops them is athletic decline. I cant believe I have to explain this - but even if it's granted that standards today are better, that doesn't necessarily mean a goal today is more valuable. Those are two separate things lmao. There have been simply more goals from ~2010 onwards, and especially the last few years. For a plethora of reasons (more refined build-up, tactical advances, rule changes, more expensive squads/superteams, greater disparity between top teams and the rest etc). The mid 2000s averaged about 2.6 goals in the PL (around that if i remember right). The last few years it's been over 3(!!). If anything goals are EASIER to come by for the top forwards today (we can quibble with semantics, and it wont be true in ALL cases, but generally this is true). When watching old games - yes u see some practices, or some spaces that wouldn't exist today. At the same time, I often see shocking defending, or certain spaces open up today that wouldn't have existed in the past, so let's not oversell how good defending is now, it's not a case of 'every single thing is definitely way better now' either. Evolution is not always linear. Regardless, doesnt it naturally follow that higher standards, owed to better data/training etc would allow those past players to also scale up? Isn't that just a super obvious conclusion to come to? So what is the point of constantly saying "things are way better" or "this ex player wouldnt survive" other than to smugly and ignorantly disparage past talent? What other point is being made? I've attached a clip of Arteta (who seems to be Alex's lord and saviour pbuh going by his YT thumbnails) saying that he would be a better player today with all these modern advancements.

I'm sorry but it's such a braindead, pointless, utterly inane take that for some reason people like to parrot. This guy said Drogba wouldn't SURVIVE in the premier league today (insane). He takes the idea that "standards improve with time" (valid) and applies it like a sledgehammer, without an ounce of thought. Messi struggled far more in the 2010 world cup (still in his athletic prime), than he did in 2022 (washed). So did football actually get worse? Or are performances and stats influenced by dozens of contextual factors that these simplistic era arguments completely ignore? Maybe it's not as simple as 'he's more modern therefore better' At what point does football 'get away' from the upper echelon players? Maldini played across 3 decades at a high level. Drogba thrived in the exact same era that Messi and Ronaldo did. I can be intentionally obtuse and point out that Salah thrived in the modern PL, while he struggled for Chelsea barely a year after Drogba lifted the UCL. How does this dude square these things? if the past was so much worse, then surely every top player today should've destroyed it when they were actually coming through right? Or at least in their 20s? Danny frickin Welbeck is still bossing it, but I suppose Rooney would struggle? I have never seen any indication that a top player can't translate at least 90% of their value from one era to the next. The only thing that stops them is athletic decline. I cant believe I have to explain this - but even if it's granted that standards today are better, that doesn't necessarily mean a goal today is more valuable. Those are two separate things lmao. There have been simply more goals from ~2010 onwards, and especially the last few years. For a plethora of reasons (more refined build-up, tactical advances, rule changes, more expensive squads/superteams, greater disparity between top teams and the rest etc). The mid 2000s averaged about 2.6 goals in the PL (around that if i remember right). The last few years it's been over 3(!!). If anything goals are EASIER to come by for the top forwards today (we can quibble with semantics, and it wont be true in ALL cases, but generally this is true). When watching old games - yes u see some practices, or some spaces that wouldn't exist today. At the same time, I often see shocking defending, or certain spaces open up today that wouldn't have existed in the past, so let's not oversell how good defending is now, it's not a case of 'every single thing is definitely way better now' either. Evolution is not always linear. Regardless, doesnt it naturally follow that higher standards, owed to better data/training etc would allow those past players to also scale up? Isn't that just a super obvious conclusion to come to? So what is the point of constantly saying "things are way better" or "this ex player wouldnt survive" other than to smugly and ignorantly disparage past talent? What other point is being made? I've attached a clip of Arteta (who seems to be Alex's lord and saviour pbuh going by his YT thumbnails) saying that he would be a better player today with all these modern advancements.

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Foden is a great player, easy on the eye But it is BAFFLING how pundits seem to bend over for him. They'd praise him for picking his nose if it looked classy. Meanwhile Saka, who has outperformed him consistently, is seen as an afterthought This is how false legacies are built

Foden is a great player, easy on the eye But it is BAFFLING how pundits seem to bend over for him. They'd praise him for picking his nose if it looked classy. Meanwhile Saka, who has outperformed him consistently, is seen as an afterthought This is how false legacies are built

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Not just saying this coz cr7's stans are hilariously triggered and running maliciously edited agendas on here - this is just a pure truth nuke: When you actually watch them both play across dozens of full games, Henry in his prime years was generally more unstoppable, more unpredictable, more dominant, more threatening, and more capable of carrying lesser teammates. It's fairly obvious too tbh Cr7 is clearly an all timer of course (nowhere near goat tho), has his own advantages (technical consistency in certain actions/areas, predatory goal-scoring), and deserves a bigger legacy due to immense longevity, skillset, adaptability, records - but he has also benefited massively from selfish main character syndrome + spending his prime stat-padding in two of the most expensive, dominant super teams ever - not to mention the 2 biggest global brands. After Penaldo (+Tevez) left and were replaced inadequately, Utd got a bit worse. Yet they still won more leagues, and got to another CL final shortly after. Real Madrid kept churning big titles no problem. After Henry left, Arsenal went 20+ years without sniffing the same heights. Of course Henry leaving is not the only, or even biggest reason for that - but it is indicative of the environments they operated in. Henry carried Arsenal to their 2 biggest milestones - the invincibles+06 CL final run - far more than Ronaldo has ever carried anything Both at their best, Henry makes you a bit more likely to win football matches in most scenarios. Virtually every defender who played against both around their primes, says Henry was better/tougher, and the tape backs it up. While Henry gets slated by his countrymen, he was better for France than Ronaldo was for Portugal. You can throw all the cherry picked out of context stats and all the ballon d'ors and all the dishonest edited fail comps - or you can extensively watch the actual tape. Henry has bullied and spanked every goat level defender multiple times - not sure Cristiano on his own wud make Carragher sweat much. As a pure individual, a good defender generally locks him up more easily, he's more reliant on elite service (this is all relative, and a matter of degrees ofc) It's also hilarious that Henry legit eats more negative, lazy narratives than cr7 does, despite Cristiano having a much bigger profile, much greater longevity - and still having equivalent black marks (forget world cup or euros record, dont look at his record vs Chelsea or liverpool, especially away, never mind his actual performances which his stats usually inflate) - people seem to lowkey understand in the back of their minds who should be held to higher standards + Henry is hit with bad faith agendas by every modern PL fan cuz they think he's 'gettable' (salah, kdb, cr7, even the odd hazard/drogba stan) Henry was legit a big part of Arsenal becoming a global superbrand, big part of why they have a cultural stranglehold. In his prime, rivals across England would regularly chant his name as he destroyed their teams, just coz of how outrageously good he was. Nothing manufactured. Despite all that he adjusted his role and deferred to Zidane for France and Messi for Barcelona, for the good of the team. Pendu on the other hand got botox, fillers and does buttlicking sycophantic interviews with Piers Morgan for the same reason he fouls his own teammates to statpad another tap in, shamelessly takes his shirt off for the cameras after an invisible performance + penalty to make it 4-1 in a CL final, performatively 'coaches' in euro 2016 (the players who actually won the game didn't notice), and tanked every team for the last 5+ years with his burdening presence: to bolster his own brand/legacy no matter what. Homelander is an unfair comparison, he cannot compete with CRkelly Google 'Cristiano Ronaldo Las Vegas' for more info

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Thierry Henry playmaking 04-06

Thierry Henry playmaking 04-06

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real ballers do juggling tricks to actually beat opponents and progress the ball

real ballers do juggling tricks to actually beat opponents and progress the ball

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Thierry Henry earned his arrogance

Thierry Henry earned his arrogance

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I could show Henry scoring a million times from similar positions, what’re we talking about lmao??

I could show Henry scoring a million times from similar positions, what’re we talking about lmao??

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Thierry Henry is the smoothest player of all time

Thierry Henry is the smoothest player of all time

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Here's Henry doing a skill that Zidane looks awkward trying to replicate. Is Henry more technical ZZ? 'Tech' is too broad. Only makes sense to measure variety of EFFECTIVE skills u have, and how consistently you can execute them. F2 freestylers aren't more technical than cr7

Here's Henry doing a skill that Zidane looks awkward trying to replicate. Is Henry more technical ZZ? 'Tech' is too broad. Only makes sense to measure variety of EFFECTIVE skills u have, and how consistently you can execute them. F2 freestylers aren't more technical than cr7

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Thierry Henry - Skyfall (reupload)

Thierry Henry - Skyfall (reupload)

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Thierry Henry - Influence

Thierry Henry - Influence

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Mesut Ozil forcing his teammates to score in one touch

Mesut Ozil forcing his teammates to score in one touch

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It's because g/a doesn't capture stuff like this. It was all the little things he would do game after game even beyond the flashy stuff. The unique combo of immense physical power masked by elegance and unending flair.

It's because g/a doesn't capture stuff like this. It was all the little things he would do game after game even beyond the flashy stuff. The unique combo of immense physical power masked by elegance and unending flair.

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Thierry Henry vs GOAT defenders (updated)

Thierry Henry vs GOAT defenders (updated)

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Henry dogwalking Gattuso in that game

Henry dogwalking Gattuso in that game

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Watching Henry when he wants to recover the ball is insane. The most unique athlete in football history

Watching Henry when he wants to recover the ball is insane. The most unique athlete in football history

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Forget all the well known goals, Henry has COUNTLESS random bangers that nobody knows about. With huge variety too commentators used to say he never scored ordinary goals

Forget all the well known goals, Henry has COUNTLESS random bangers that nobody knows about. With huge variety too commentators used to say he never scored ordinary goals

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Thierry Henry - smooth skills and dribbles

Thierry Henry - smooth skills and dribbles

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Saying: "he's got the entire spurs defence to take on here...he's capable of doing it" just before he did it was pretty cool.

Saying: "he's got the entire spurs defence to take on here...he's capable of doing it" just before he did it was pretty cool.

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Henry exquisitely using his distal phalanx vs Spurs

Henry exquisitely using his distal phalanx vs Spurs

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Listen to the commentary and the crowd's reaction as Henry comes off the bench to replace Van Persie. The guy was like a superhero for a few years.

Listen to the commentary and the crowd's reaction as Henry comes off the bench to replace Van Persie. The guy was like a superhero for a few years.

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Thierry Henry and headers were so weird. He was tall, and had a HUGE leap, as shown here. Yet he barely scored with his head. Andy Gray remarks a couple times how odd it is. Wenger later explains why in a documentary.

Thierry Henry and headers were so weird. He was tall, and had a HUGE leap, as shown here. Yet he barely scored with his head. Andy Gray remarks a couple times how odd it is. Wenger later explains why in a documentary.

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Wish YouTubers like Lyés would verify their facts when speaking confidently. Henry contributed 53% of Arsenal's PL goals in 03-04. Ljungberg scored 4. The team as a whole had already started to decline, which is why they fell off the following years.

Wish YouTubers like Lyés would verify their facts when speaking confidently. Henry contributed 53% of Arsenal's PL goals in 03-04. Ljungberg scored 4. The team as a whole had already started to decline, which is why they fell off the following years.

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