
The TWIML AI Podcast
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This Week in #MachineLearning & #AI (podcast) brings you the most interesting and important stories from the world of #ML and artificial intelligence.
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Today, we're joined by Aakanksha Chowdhery, member of technical staff at Reflection, to explore the fundamental shifts required to build true agentic AI. While the industry has largely focused on post-training techniques to improve reasoning, Aakanksha draws on her experience leading pre-training efforts for Google’s PaLM and early Gemini models to argue that pre-training itself must be rethought to move beyond static benchmarks. We explore the limitations of next-token prediction for multi-step workflows and examine how attention mechanisms, loss objectives, and training data must evolve to support long-form reasoning and planning. Aakanksha shares insights on the difference between context retrieval and actual reasoning, the importance of "trajectory" training data, and why scaling remains essential for discovering emergent agentic capabilities like error recovery and dynamic tool learning. 🗒️ For the full list of resources for this episode, visit the show notes page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 02:26 - Reflection 04:54 - Limitations of post-training for building agents 07:31 - Rethinking pre-training in agents 10:51 - Scaling 11:27 - Evolving attention mechanisms for agentic capabilities 12:39 - Memory as a tool 14:13 - Loss objectives and training data 15:50 - Fine-tuning loss in agent performance 19:37 - Training data 21:29 - Augmenting dominant training data source 24:11 - Overcoming challenges in training on synthetic data 25:47 - Benchmarks 30:44 - Scaling laws in large models versus small models 33:20 - Long-form versus short-form reasoning 37:57 - Agent’s ability to recover from failure 40:15 - Hallucinations and failure recovery 43:53 - Tool use in agents 46:38 - Coding agents 48:37 - How researchers can contribute to agentic AI
The TWIML AI Podcast43,024 views • 6 months ago

Today, we're joined by Nikita Rudin, co-founder and CEO of Flexion Robotics to discuss the gap between current robotic capabilities and what’s required to deploy fully autonomous robots in the real world. Nikita explains how reinforcement learning and simulation have driven rapid progress in robot locomotion—and why locomotion is still far from “solved.” We dig into the sim2real gap, and how adding visual inputs introduces noise and significantly complicates sim-to-real transfer. We also explore the debate between end-to-end models and modular approaches, and why separating locomotion, planning, and semantics remains a pragmatic approach today. Nikita also introduces the concept of "real-to-sim", which uses real-world data to refine simulation parameters for higher fidelity training, discusses how reinforcement learning, imitation learning, and teleoperation data are combined to train robust policies for both quadruped and humanoid robots, and introduces Flexion's hierarchical approach that utilizes pre-trained Vision-Language Models (VLMs) for high-level task orchestration with Vision-Language-Action (VLA) models and low-level whole-body trackers. Finally, Nikita shares the behind-the-scenes in humanoid robot demos, his take on reinforcement learning in simulation versus the real world, the nuances of reward tuning, and offers practical advice for researchers and practitioners looking to get started in robotics today. 🗒️ For the full list of resources for this episode, visit the show notes page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 04:07 - Is robot locomotion solved? 06:04 - Sim-to-real gap 08:58 - Adding semantics to policies 09:42 - Modular vs end-to-end architectures 10:29 - Planner model 12:21 - Adapting RL techniques from quadrupeds to humanoids 15:39 - Behind robot demos 18:09 - Humanoid robots in home environments 22:03 - Training approach 23:56 - VLA models 27:59 - Closing the sim-to-real gap 32:55 - Task orchestration using VLMs 36:38 - Tool use 38:10 - Model hierarchy 43:37 - Simulator versus simulation environment 44:57 - Combining imitation learning and reinforcement learning 46:42 - RL in real world versus RL in simulation 52:58 - Reward tuning and value functions in robotics 56:38 - Predictions 1:00:10 - Humanoids, quadropeds, and wheeled platforms 1:02:45 - Advice, recommended robot kits, and community pla
The TWIML AI Podcast22,264 views • 5 months ago

Today, we're joined by Yejin Choi, professor and senior fellow at Stanford University University in the Computer Science Department and Stanford UniversityHAI. In this conversation, we explore Yejin’s recent work on making small language models reason more effectively. We discuss how high-quality, diverse data plays a central role in closing the intelligence gap between small and large models, and how combining synthetic data generation, imitation learning, and reinforcement learning can unlock stronger reasoning capabilities in smaller models. Yejin explains the risks of homogeneity in model outputs and mode collapse highlighted in her “Artificial Hivemind” paper, and its impacts on human creativity and knowledge. We also discuss her team's novel approaches, including reinforcement learning as a pre-training objective, where models are incentivized to “think” before predicting the next token, and "Prismatic Synthesis," a gradient-based method for generating diverse synthetic math data while filtering overrepresented examples. Additionally, we cover the societal implications of AI and the concept of pluralistic alignment—ensuring AI reflects the diverse norms and values of humanity. Finally, Yejin shares her mission to democratize AI beyond large organizations and offers her predictions for the coming year. 🗒️ For the full list of resources for this episode, visit the show notes page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 04:44 - "Snowball effect" in AI investments 06:58 - Approaches to smaller models 08:58 - Importance of “better data” 14:07 - Imitation learning 18:24 - Artificial Hivemind paper 25:25 - AI risks 27:50 - Spectrum tuning 28:53 - Future of AI on humanity 33:08 - Reasoning in small models 34:58 - Prismatic Synthesis 48:20 - Reinforcement as a Pretraining Objective 55:04 - Pluralistic alignment 1:03:30 - Predictions
The TWIML AI Podcast12,141 views • 5 months ago

Today, we're joined by Sergey Levine, associate professor at UC Berkeley EECS and co-founder of Physical Intelligence to discuss π0 (pi-zero), a general-purpose robotic foundation model. We dig into the model architecture, which pairs a vision language model (VLM) with a diffusion-based action expert, and the model training "recipe," emphasizing the roles of pre-training and post-training with a diverse mixture of real-world data to ensure robust and intelligent robot learning. We review the data collection approach, which uses human operators and teleoperation rigs, the potential of synthetic data and reinforcement learning in enhancing robotic capabilities, and much more. We also introduce the team’s new FAST tokenizer, which opens the door to a fully Transformer-based model and significant improvements in learning and generalization. Finally, we cover the open-sourcing of π0 and future directions for their research. 🎧 / 🎥 Listen or watch the full episode on our page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 2:14 - Physical Intelligence 3:47 - Key challenges in robotic learning 6:13 - Reinforcement learning in π0 and robotic foundation models 8:36 - π0 VLM model architecture 15:33 - π0 model recipe 18:39 - Pre-training dataset 22:47 - Post-training 24:23 - Laundry folding demo 31:32 - Scaling laws on π0 model 34:57 - FAST 40:26 - Open sourcing π0 43:37 - Other robot types 46:27 - Future directions
The TWIML AI Podcast19,942 views • 1 year ago

Today, we're joined by Jack Parker-Holder and Shlomi Fruchter, researchers at Google DeepMind, to discuss the recent release of Genie 3, a model capable of generating “playable” virtual worlds. We dig into the evolution of the Genie project and review the current model’s scaled-up capabilities, including creating real-time, interactive, and high-resolution environments. Jack and Shlomi share their perspectives on what defines a world model, the model's architecture, and key technical challenges and breakthroughs, including Genie 3’s visual memory and ability to handle “promptable world events.” Jack, Shlomi, and Sam share their favorite Genie 3 demos, and discuss its potential as a dynamic training environment for embodied AI agents. Finally, we will explore future directions for Genie research. 🗒️ For the full list of resources for this episode, visit the show notes page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 7:11 - What is a world model? 14:49 - Milestones of Genie research 24:32 - Genie 3 27:46 - Challenges 30:07 - Genie 3 examples 33:48 - Model capabilities 35:49 - Key aspects of the model 39:40 - Consistency as an emergent property 42:11 - Promptable word events 47:24 - SIMA agent 50:56 - Limitations 56:08 - Future directions
The TWIML AI Podcast12,043 views • 10 months ago

Today, we're joined by Julie Kallini ✨, PhD student at Stanford NLP Group to discuss her recent papers, “MrT5: Dynamic Token Merging for Efficient Byte-level Language Models” and “Mission: Impossible Language Models.” For the MrT5 paper, we explore the importance and failings of tokenization in large language models—including inefficient compression rates for under-resourced languages—and dig into byte-level modeling as an alternative. We discuss the architecture of MrT5, its ability to learn language-specific compression rates, its performance on multilingual benchmarks and character-level manipulation tasks, and its performance and efficiency. For the “Mission: Impossible Language Models” paper, we review the core idea behind the research, the definition and creation of impossible languages, the creation of impossible language training datasets, and explore the bias of language model architectures towards natural language. 🎧 / 🎥 Listen or watch the full episode on our page: 📖 CHAPTERS =============================== 00:00 - Introduction 4:28 - Issues of tokenization for LLMs 11:26 - Sub-word tokenization versus byte level tokenization 16:28 - Inefficiencies of byte T5 17:08 - Mr. T5 architecture 22:05 - Language-specific compression rate 24:10 - Benchmarks 27:15 - Inference efficiency 28:50 - Applying MrT5 to other decoder models 31:15 - Future directions of MrT5 33:51 - Mission: Impossible Language Models paper 39:59 - Languages tested 45:13 - Language architectures biased toward natural languages vs impossible languages 48:19 - Future directions for Mission Impossible
The TWIML AI Podcast11,758 views • 1 year ago
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