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Kane Cornes: “The load of carrying Carlton has caught up with Patrick Cripps.” Daisy Thomas: “Oh, that's slightly cheeky from you. No, I don't think it has. There's just been a decline this year around some of his numbers. But also, you have to look at the improvement that George Hewett has brought to that midfield. So I don't think you can whack Paddy too hard, Kane.”

Kane Cornes: “The load of carrying Carlton has caught up with Patrick Cripps.” Daisy Thomas: “Oh, that's slightly cheeky from you. No, I don't think it has. There's just been a decline this year around some of his numbers. But also, you have to look at the improvement that George Hewett has brought to that midfield. So I don't think you can whack Paddy too hard, Kane.”

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Cal Twomey: “Sam Walsh will get big offers this year, he's already one of the Blues million dollar men but shapes as the next captain. As a pre-agent, he'll get big money thrown at him to turn his head this year, I think. Particularly if Carlton's woes continue. Do I think he goes? No. But I do think that he'll have some things thrown at him this year to consider. And I'm sure Carlton will be keen to lock him in as well.” [Gettable]

Cal Twomey: “Sam Walsh will get big offers this year, he's already one of the Blues million dollar men but shapes as the next captain. As a pre-agent, he'll get big money thrown at him to turn his head this year, I think. Particularly if Carlton's woes continue. Do I think he goes? No. But I do think that he'll have some things thrown at him this year to consider. And I'm sure Carlton will be keen to lock him in as well.” [Gettable]

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Harry McKay: “Five or six weeks ago, in late February, I started feeling in not a great place mentally. I think the most challenging part of that was me thinking I shouldn’t be feeling the way I was. Everything in my life, to be honest, was in a really great place - the football club, I love my teammates so much and was in a great place in terms of footy. The most beautiful, loving partner and family being so supportive. Everything in my world was in such a great place, and that’s why it was really scary that it didn’t make a lot of sense. I guess you could say it was really irrational to feel like that, and as that progressed and unfortunately feeling in a worse and worse spot, I had to put on a bit of a facade to pretend to be okay when I really wasn’t. That was really hard, as a male who would hang their hat on always turning up, being stoic, pushing through. But it got to a place where I had to put a hand up and say I needed some help. Feeling in a place where you’re really blue and not yourself, but feeling like you have to put a facade on to pretend that everything was okay reached a tipping point, it was scary. But I needed to put my hand up and say I’m not okay and need some help. That can be really tough to see someone like that, but it got to a stage where it was really the only option. We can try and be stoic and push through, and it’s definitely how I’m wired a bit. It was so irrational, because everything - footy, family, life - was in a great place. On paper, it made no sense, which probably added to the want to keep pushing through. But the more I did, the worse I felt. The moment I did that, the support has been so beautiful - from my partner, family, the wider football community and definitely involved in my club. I knew everyone would be great, but it’s blown me away how loving, caring and supportive everyone has been. The start of the footy season is such an exciting, fun time. With every domain being in such a great place, the things that bring you so much joy usually, that contributed to feeling really confused and spiralling around that. Something I’ve learnt through this process is the domains of life you love the most - playing footy, competing with your teammates, inspiring young kids, running out in front of our fans - are the hardest things to do when you’re in a dark place. That can be hard to get your head around, but a lot of people would be able to relate that when you’re feeling at your worst, the things you love are the hardest things to do. The care for me as a person has been so profound. There’s footy, then there’s life - how much my teammates have wrapped their arms around me and given me love and support… I always knew footy clubs are such a great place when things are tough, but I’ve been blown away by the love and care from my closest people, especially within the Club. It gets spoken about a bit, but being able to talk about it and share what you’re going through with people you love or care about you a lot, it really helps. It’s a weight off your shoulders when you can get to a place where you can share. There’s often a perception of being unsure of how people might be, hesitation about how someone might react. Everyone has been so beautiful, so caring and alleviated any worry or judgment. If one person can take something from a shared experience from being able to talk and confide in the people you love, I’ll be happy. I feel really lucky to feel like myself again. Anyone that has been through something similar can understand there’s a physical toll that comes with going through something like this, and in the last week or two it’s been about hitting those markers and working on a plan to get back to a great level. That’s why it was so awesome to get some minutes in and hit some of those markers in the VFL on the weekend. To be able to tick off some of those things will hold me in good stead for Gather Round this week - and I’m really excited to run out in front of Carlton fans again, who have been so beautiful, and with my teammates competing together. One of the great things about going through something challenging is the learning and self-awareness, the knowledge in this space that people can help. If it’s something that comes up in the future, you’re in a much better place to be able to deal with it and have it at a more manageable level. People knowing more about me only helps as well. You can’t just click your fingers and it goes away, it’s something to work through into the future - but I’m in a much better place to be able to handle that. Being in a position where we have a mic in front of us, we can sit here and if it can help one person have a conversation or confide in a family member or friend, there’s some amazing organisations that are purely here to help. Speaking about it was a weight off my shoulders - I’m really grateful to be in a better place, the love has been so profound and I can’t wait to get back out there. I’m really happy to have a smile on my face again.”

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Sam Edmund: “I reckon the Blues have seen the light. Now I'll explain this. They saw the light a long time ago in regards to the chance that they were going to lose Tom De Koning. That much is clear. And they can't compete Carlton with St Kilda's offer. We know that it's a $12 million offer. Across the seven years, it equates to $1.7 million a season. And we know the score here. Given Carlton's tight salary cap, there could be as much as $4 million difference between the two deals. It is a no brainer. But the Blues have seen the light in another way. They can go about trying to convince Tom Deconing to stay. So while St Kilda, like a lot of rival clubs do when it comes to poaching players, they have gone all in. The contract is big. We think you'll be the best player in the league. We'll pay you accordingly. But also they've sat Tom De Koning down in front of their most influential, some of their most influential backers, corporate and business heavyweights, to espouse the virtues of joining the Saints. Well, we'll pay you this, but this is how you can also make this. Acknowledging of course that everything has to be ticked off by the AFL. Carlton have probably been a little bit slow to come to the party in this regard and they've now seen the light though. So the fight for Tom De Koning's signature has moved beyond the contract table. It has seen former Carlton president Mark Mark LoGiudice organise for former dual Brownlow Medal winning superstar Chris Judd to sit down with the out of contract ruckman. And not only Chris, I'm told, but a number of other heavyweights linked to Princess Park, IKON Park, Royal Parade. And I think the Chris Judd and the Tom De Koning meeting has taken place already. Whether it has any effect in seeing Tom stay at the Blues and turn his back on that massive contract on paper remains to be seen. But this is very much a secret battle at the moment. How can we make you the happiest? We can make you and stay at the club now. We saw it to some degree with Josh Battle in the pardon the pun, the battle between the Saints and the Hawks. Last year it very much went beyond football. Football was a massive part of it. The contract was too. But it was all about welfare and family and what you can do for my family. So this is the modern day trade space and the secret battle that's going on behind the scenes at the moment between the Saints and the Blues. Only Tom De Koning and his management knows whether Tom's actually made up his mind. But nothing's been signed. So theoretically, he's wrestling with the decision. And the Blues have somewhat seen the light on how they can best go about keeping him.” [SEN]

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Jimmy Bartel: “Haynes and Silvagni were magnificent behind the footy.” Tom Morris: “Nick Haynes was on big money at the Giants, you know that. And he came to Carlton as a free agent. I think he's on a one year deal. He'd be on a fraction of what he was at the Giants. But surely he's worth another contract. Silvagni's a player we've spoken about a bit. I'm really happy for Jack Silvagni because he spent the best part of 10 years trying to work out where he's best at this team. And Carlton have been trying to work it out as well. He's played almost every position in it now feels like he's a genuine second defender. They're going to lock him there for the next few years if they can re-sign him and probably pay him more than what he's on now. He's on about $450k-$500k now. That has to go up to $650k at least the way he's playing.” James Hird: “Competitive beast in the backline, actually is winning one on one duels. I hadn't seen him do that forward. He did it now and then and kicking goals. But any credit to him improved his career after a knee reconstruction.” Jimmy Bartel: “If he's the genuine second defender, I still think they've got their balance wrong in their back six.” Tom Morris: “So what is he your third defender then?” Jimmy Bartel: “No, no. Because if you've got Weitering McGovern Haynes and who's the other one? Silvagni of course. If you match that up against the Lions or sides with speed.” Tom Morris: “So who are you leaving out then? If Silvagni's in that team, so is Weitering.” James Hird: “I think Nick Haynes needs to actually beat players one on one. I think some intercept marks are okay. He does kick it back to the opposition. He's got to go and play on someone and beat them in one on one situations.” [Footy Furnace]

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🗣️🎥 Xander McGuire: “Now to Michael Voss, you said on this show last week that if they suffered another loss like they did to Port Adelaide, where they got done by 10 goals and showed no effort, then he could be in some real trouble. And Michael Voss himself conceded that after the game. That was the main thing. You know, he said you can cop skill errors going forward, as they have for a number of years now, but it was the effort that really hurt. Where does this leave Michael Voss in the grand scheme of things?” Kate McCarthy: “I think the pressure on him obviously is not going to get any easier with what they dished out on Friday night. I think he said, they let the club down. For me, the microscope needs to be a little bit more on the players because you can guarantee that they were built up for that game. They wanted to pressure the opposition, but there was no response really. There was very little given at the start of the game. If that's me and I'm going out as a Carlton Football Club player, the first opportunity I have to do something that inspires my teammates or to show that I'm here, to show Collingwood that we're here to play, that's what I'm doing. And I felt like there were very few of those acts in the first five or ten minutes of that game. You struggled to set the tone. And that might be me sort of coming from a different era or a different time where that was how you showed that you were in a game. But there was very little of that for me, for Carlton. And that's on the players. That's not on the coaching staff. That's on the players to put their head over the footy, to win their one on ones, to smash their opponent if they have the opportunity to. And none of that was on display on Friday night.” Xander McGuire: “Lot of soul searching at the Blues. Charlie Curnow promised that there'd be a different unit next week.” Kate McCarthy: “Should have been a different unit this week. That's what we should have had. That's what we were expecting. It wasn't there.” 🎥 The Round So Far, AFL Media

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Sam McClure: “So onto the Blues and just touching on my man towards the top there. TDK. Good couple of weeks would be in the conversation for All Australian ruckman right now if you were to pick the team. First two weeks has been unbelievable. First two weeks for his team has been disastrous. He then goes to Marvel Stadium, probably sitting near where you were in your corporate seats on Saturday to watch his brother Sam play against the Saints. [Yes] he was there. And watched the Saints put on a show. So the situation with Tom is he's either staying at Carlton or he's taking the cash at St Kilda. He's not moving clubs for similar money. So I think you can rule out the other 16 teams now. The worse that Carlton play and the more competitive that St Kilda are, the more likely it is that Tom leaves. Carlton's situation is made more embarrassing by your point. The fact that they don't have their first pick. Their cap is extremely tight. So I do giggle when people say, oh, their list isn't that good. So Essendon's list isn't that good. Carlton's list is great. And if they've got underperforming players, that's not Nick Austin's fault. The list manager. It's not Steven Silvgani's fault. That's development, that's coaching. They've had access to all these picks and apart from, you know, the likes of Dow and O'Brien, who I think most people would agree now with just the wrong picks at that top end. Yeah, Apart from guys like that, the majority of guys who not playing well, it's not because we've never seen them play well. The guys who are down on form and down on form from their best. So whenever you hear someone say, geez, I'm not sure Carlton have picked the right blokes. Can I just take you back? So Round 14, which was June 18th of, of 2023 against Gold Coast. So this is the year they went on the run to the Prelim Final and they ultimately lost to Brisbane. Right. So the season at Round 14 was over, basically cooked, done, kaput. Take them out of the oven. They're playing Gold coast at the MCG. They're down at quarter time, season's on the line and then they, they kick 10 goals in the second quarter. They beat Gold Coast. They barely lost a game for the rest of the year. They look unbeatable. So here are the guys that played in the game against Gold Coast that didn't play on the weekend, Pittonet, who's second choice ruckman. Owies, they pushed out. Martin, they pushed out. Kennedy, they pushed out. Those last three blokes were playing at different teams. Yeah, Cuningham. Body let him down. Plus they gave him a five year deal for absolutely no reason and he just wasn't very good.” Mitch Cleary: “He didn't get one single five year deal. He got twos and ones along the journey, didn't he?” Sam McClure: “No, they gave him a five year contract. I'm 97% sure. Can you please check that for me? What? I think that Carlton gave him a five year deal. It might be one of the single most confusing contract extensions I've ever seen. Paddy Dow, he's obviously playing somewhere else. And Cincotta, who's injured. So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. That's a third of your team. But almost every single one of those blokes is not first choice or has been actively traded. So when you say, oh, Carlton's team's not that good, well, they've had all the access to top line draft picks. They've gone and poached guys that they went after and got, like Saad, like Williams and they've gotten rid of the guys that they would have described as, you know, extra fat and they've culled that. Their cap is really tight. So this is the Carlton team. This is what they have set up for and planned for. Don't turn around and say, oh, this might not be the team. And if the message from the club is, well, we're doing everything right, we're playing the right system, well, you've also got the right players so you can't blame your list. So as I've said on this pod before, once Carlton, stop making excuses for themselves, they may take steps in the right direction but while they continue to play the blame game behind closed doors, they will never fully move on and give themselves the ultimate chance of success.” Mitch Cleary: “Do you think they're blaming, are they using excuses, do you think? Are they? Is there noise coming out of Carlton like that that you're suggesting?” Sam McClure: “Yes. They're an excuses based football club. What did you think of the video that got put on Instagram of Michael Voss and the players after the game? Paul Roos said on the ABC that it was a betrayal of the players to release Inner Sanctum stuff like that.” Mitch Cleary: “I don't think it did anything to douse the concern amongst the fan group. I think the fans aren't buying the messaging at the moment that everything's okay. It's just another disappointing loss. Aren't we? Aren't aren't Carlton past the gallant defeats.” Sam McClure: “So they should be. Mitch but this is my point. I'm not sure if you saw classified in the comparisons to what Sam Mitchell last year at 0-5 was saying. And this is a team that at 0-5 remember like this is way before Hokball kind of gained momentum and no one really had strong expectations of Hawthorn because they were quite young. They got hammered by the Gold coast by 10 goals. That was 0-5. And Sam Mitchell walked in there and was like well I could say that we're young and I could say this and say that but ultimately it wasn't. It was a substandard AFL performance.” Mitch Cleary: “They were horrible that night in that Gold Coast loss when they went to zip and five.” Sam McClure: “Yeah. And Carlton have been horrible to start.” Mitch Cleary: “They weren't horrible on the weekend but.” Sam McClure: “I think Hawthorn barely got out of second gear and beat them. And and had some bad misses in the last quarter and could have easily won by seven goals.” [Tradies Podcast]

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