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Proton VPN Lied About Logging! Proton VPN openly admitted they will monitor your connection when someone complains to them. - Proton VPN admitted to monitoring “in real time” when abuse reports arise — meaning they can inspect traffic and link it to user accounts. - That capability requires storing connection data, which constitutes logging, regardless of how briefly it’s retained. - Proton VPN, Nord VPN, and Surfshark all maintain the technical ability to surveil users despite claiming “no logs.” - True privacy means making monitoring technically impossible — not relying on a company’s promise not to look. Proton Mail and Proton VPN admitted they log their users, sometimes. A user ran port scans through their service. Allegedly, this generated abuse complaints, and then Proton terminated the user’s account. When asked about this, on Reddit, Proton Mail said, "When our systems team is informed about abuse originating from a VPN server, we check the network traffic on the server in question in realtime to verify the abuse report. If we see a VPN connection engaged in abusive behavior when we check, we find the userid associated with that connection and terminate the account." Proton VPN can inspect your traffic and tie it back to your account. That’s false advertising, and also, an egregious invasion of privacy. "Realtime” Monitoring is Just Logging Proton VPN wants you to believe that they don't keep logs, but think about what they're actually claiming: 1. Abuse report comes in (often minutes to hours after the fact) 2. They "check the network traffic" 3. Then, they identify which user account was responsible For step 3 to work, they need to store: - Which user accounts were connected when - What traffic each connection was sending - Long enough to correlate the two That's logging. It doesn't matter if you call it "realtime monitoring" and keep it for 10 minutes instead of days. If you can tie traffic to a user account, you're logging. The distinction between "we log permanently" and "we log temporarily" is meaningless for privacy. The capability exists either way. The Legacy VPN Industry Proton VPN isn't special. Nord VPN and Surfshark do the same thing. Every legacy VPN has this capability. Despite this, they all market "no logs" and privacy guarantees. Yet, they admitted themselves that they do log, sometimes. This is the same logic politicians use when introducing surveillance laws: "don't worry, we'll only use it for terrorists." These laws remain in effect long after whatever threat prompted them has passed, and then get extended to cover other classes of 'criminals,' and eventually to general crime prevention. That's how you get a surveillance state. It’s the same for companies. The problem isn't whether they are trustworthy today. The problem is that when you're a commercial entity facing legal pressure, operational pressure, or financial pressure, that capability will be used and abused. If the technical ability to surveil users exists, it will eventually expand beyond its original scope. What Real Privacy Looks Like If they actually cared about privacy, they would architect the system so user identification is technically impossible. Abuse detection? Use automated pattern matching and nullroute it, but don't inspect packets and, worse, don't map traffic back to user accounts. Could this be built? Yes. Would it be harder? Yes. Would it make it so you can't spy on users? Yes. Clearly their mission wasn’t privacy, but instead, making you believe they provide privacy. But it’s clear, they built systems where they can and do monitor and identify to whom traffic belongs. When evaluating privacy tools, don't ask "will they look?" Instead, ask: "can they look?" If the answer is yes, you don't have privacy. Instead, what you have is a gentleman's agreement, with someone you have never met, that lasts until it becomes inconvenient. Proton VPN, Nord VPN, Surfshark and all of the other legacy VPN providers can all inspect your traffic in realtime. Further, they can tie it to your account which means they can hand that over if compelled. The capability exists. They verified it.

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