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1/ We just released π0.7 — a steerable generalist robot model with emergent capabilities. I want to share a bit of the backstory, because π0.7 taught me something surprising about where robot learning is heading. A thread on bittersweet lessons 🧵

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Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

2/ About a year ago, I started a research project on world models for robotics. My bet was that world models would be the key unlock — that they'd dramatically outperform standard VLA approaches for task generalization. And for a while, the results backed that up. We were getting impressive compositional generalization: robots following unseen instructions, performing tasks never in the training data, transferring from other robots and human videos.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

3/ But something funny happened. Our VLA baseline kept getting stronger as we collected more data. Day by day, quietly improving. Until one day it was also showing very promising signs of compositional generalization — and it was much simpler. So what do you do when your baseline eats your research thesis? You write a paper to understand why your baseline got so strong :)

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

4/ That paper became π0.7, and the lessons I took away have made me much more optimistic about the future of robot learning. Here's what surprised me:

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

5/ I thought task generalization was hard. Not completely true. I thought learning from heterogeneous data was hard. Not true. I thought cross-embodiment transfer on dexterous tasks was hard. Not true either. Compositional generalization — recombining knowledge and skills to solve new tasks — emerges from training on large and diverse datasets. Even in the action modality.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

6/ But it's not just about scaling data. In the paper we show that conditioning and context matter. You have to set up the ML problem correctly. π0.7's key insight: diverse data needs diverse context. Metadata about speed, quality, and visual subgoals disambiguate the training signal. Without that context, heterogeneous data is noisy and contradictory. With it, even suboptimal rollouts and failures become useful training signal.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

7/ One result that surprised us: cross-embodiment transfer on dexterous tasks. The convention in the field is to evaluate transfer on pick-and-place. We wanted to try something harder — shirt folding. All our folding data was collected on small, lightweight bimanual robots. We tested π0.7 zero-shot on heavy industrial UR5e arms with imprecise parallel jaw grippers. No laundry folding data for that robot at all. It folded t-shirts consistently — and applied a completely different folding strategy, adapting to the different robot affordances on its own.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

8/ Another result I keep thinking about: teaching the robot to use a novel air fryer. When I ordered the first air fryer from Amazon to test this, I had little hope it would actually work. Zero-shot, the robot makes a reasonable attempt but doesn't finish. But if you walk it through step-by-step with verbal instructions — like coaching a person — it handles the appliance effectively. Then you distill those coaching sessions into a high-level policy. The robot learns the task from verbal instructions alone, no additional teleoperation. Prompt engineering, but for robots.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

9/ We traced back WHERE the model learned air fryer skills. After a lot of searching through our dataset, we found: a couple of episodes of a static single-arm robot closing an air fryer in someone's home, and a few DROID episodes of a Franka arm opening one. These look nothing like what our mobile robot actually does. The model composed fragments across embodiments, environments, and strategies — much like how an LLM composes concepts from its training data. This is the kind of generalization people have been hoping for in robotics, and it was genuinely unexpected to see it working.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

10/ Goal conditioning turned out to be more powerful than I expected. The goal-conditioned policy already knows a lot about achieving goals. A lightweight world model generates visual subgoals that guide the robot and implicitly specify what NOT to do (e.g., don't move your arm around while holding the air fryer tray). Even when subgoals had some mismatch with reality, the policy tried remarkably hard to achieve each one. That robustness wasn't designed — it emerged. I think there's a lot of room to run with goal-conditioned RL from here.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

11/ One lesson I keep re-learning: as the model becomes more capable, evaluation becomes the bottleneck. Stochasticity in the environment, the model, and human evaluators all compound. Generalization becomes harder to define and measure — when your dataset is large, it's not easy to figure out what's truly "in" vs "out" of distribution. Eval is a real unsolved problem for the field.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

12/ The bittersweet part: I came in with a strong research bet, and reality had a different answer. The bitter lesson strikes again — data had the highest leverage, not the clever method. But here's what's sweet: the results are more exciting than my original thesis. Compositional generalization emerging naturally from data, working across embodiments and tasks, steerable through language and goals. That's a future worth being optimistic about.

Фото профиля Lucy Shi
Lucy Shi6 месяцев назад

13/ This is part of why I love research. You go in with a thesis, nature humbles you, and what you find is more interesting than what you expected. That said, we're far from converging on the right approach — I still see a lot of value in new methods and diversity of research bets in the community. Research bets compound in unexpected ways, even when the answer comes from somewhere you didn't plan. Paper: Blog:

Фото профиля Adham
Adham6 месяцев назад

Nice release! If the conclusion is that VLAs outperformed a world model backbone primarily due to data, why can't that same data be leveraged for pre-training/mid-training the world model? The core diff is how the video-action distribution is modeled not the data itself

Фото профиля Bryan Wu
Bryan Wu6 месяцев назад

Amazing work, congrats!!!!

Фото профиля Hang Zhao
Hang Zhao6 месяцев назад

Congrats, Lucy! Excited to read your work.

Фото профиля Chon Tang
Chon Tang6 месяцев назад

This is the content I come to X for - amazing work, thanks for sharing. I have to say I walk away excited by this work... but thinking pi0.7 is closer to GPT-2 then it is to GPT3.5.

Фото профиля Zeyi Liu
Zeyi Liu6 месяцев назад

congrats lucy!! really enjoy reading this

Фото профиля Kun Tao
Kun Tao6 месяцев назад

Love these tweets and very impressive work!

Фото профиля Jules
Jules6 месяцев назад

Can't wait for more air fryer-operating robots! Very cool!

Фото профиля Shao-Hua Sun
Shao-Hua Sun6 месяцев назад

@chelseabfinn Thanks for sharing the insights Lucy!

Фото профиля Delta
Delta6 месяцев назад

Congrats, Lucy!!

Фото профиля Dhruv Singal
Dhruv Singal6 месяцев назад

CONGRATULATIONS!

Фото профиля Adam Zvada
Adam Zvada6 месяцев назад

lucy, awesome thread. thx!

Фото профиля Rocky
Rocky6 месяцев назад

This is pretty fun, gonna try this out with my model team 😄

Фото профиля Heimrih Lim
Heimrih Lim6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for your research and contribution to this field. It really is inspiring. I am an aspiring phd candidate, with interest in VLAs and everything about it. Seeing how fast the field is evolving makes me excited for the future and to learn about it as well.

Фото профиля Leena Mathur
Leena Mathur6 месяцев назад

@richardxp888 Amazing work and analysis!

Фото профиля seanpixel 🫧
seanpixel 🫧6 месяцев назад

failures and suboptimal rollouts definitely are useful signals congrats to the team

Фото профиля Harsha Mohan
Harsha Mohan6 месяцев назад

Amazing work and insights

Фото профиля Charlotte Xia
Charlotte Xia6 месяцев назад

@chelseabfinn Let’s go Lucy!!

Фото профиля Alex
Alex6 месяцев назад

Very cool! World-model assisted VLAs :)

Фото профиля Shiyam Kashfiq
Shiyam Kashfiq6 месяцев назад

Love the shift to context, curious how you practically curate diverse data?

Фото профиля 搞钱小短短
搞钱小短短6 месяцев назад

I'm very curious to know: in your π0.7, during inference, do the high-level subtask prediction and the VLM in the VLA backbone use two pre-trained models?

Фото профиля biTree
biTree2 месяцев назад

Nice

Фото профиля The tale May told...
The tale May told...6 месяцев назад

VLMs as a backbone are Counterintuitive compared to WMs, but love to see more progress from the team.

Фото профиля jakie mike
jakie mike6 месяцев назад

Lucy姐的pipeline一如既往的好,点赞🫡

Фото профиля Abhiraj Singh
Abhiraj Singh6 месяцев назад

I get the visual subgoal as the high level signal, but that kinda excludes proprio and force/torque from the high-level loop. For contact-rich tasks, do you see non-visual sensors ever entering the sub-goal generator for π?

Фото профиля Leon
Leon6 месяцев назад

amazing work

Фото профиля Mayur Newase
Mayur Newase6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the paper, very easy to follow.

Фото профиля atharva ☆
atharva ☆6 месяцев назад

lfg

Фото профиля RXI(E
RXI(E6 месяцев назад

AWESOME

Фото профиля Nurvai - The Data Layer for Physical AI
Nurvai - The Data Layer for Physical AI6 месяцев назад

Really great read. Data being the biggest driver for improvement is a pattern we’re seeing across many fields. Interesting that as data scales and becomes more accessible evaluation becomes the bottleneck. How do you think evaluations should evolve to actually capture emergent capabilities?

Фото профиля polarbeartv.com
polarbeartv.com6 месяцев назад

@svlevine

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