🇮🇷🇺🇸🇮🇱 A former Israeli Air Force commander explains why Iran is shooting down American jets... Iran completely rebuilt its air defense doctrine after the 12-day war. A former IAF commander told me "the days when flying over Iran was a walk in the park are over." Here's what changed:... Each of Iran's 31 zones now operates independently if Tehran is cut off. No more waiting for orders from a command center that might already be destroyed. Mobile launchers use shoot-and-scoot tactics from tunnels and mountain terrain. New passive infrared systems track jets without emitting radar signals, meaning pilots don't know they're being targeted until a missile is already in the air. The biggest revelation: Iran is using China's HQ-9B, Beijing's best long-range surface-to-air missile, with both active radar and infrared seekers. Standard electronic countermeasures struggle against it. And Iran's homegrown Bavar-373 reportedly outperforms Russia's S-300 and possibly the S-400. Iran ditched Russian technology, replaced it with Chinese and domestic systems, decentralized command, went mobile, went passive, and went underground. The result: two American aircraft down in a single day after five weeks of assumed air dominance. Source: Shaiel Ben-Ephraimshow more

listen up and learn: We are flying between 300 to 500 sorties a day. The damage to the country is MASSIVE. To lose a couple of planes of the hundreds flying is expected. No one expected a 'walk in the park'. It is simply a matter of how much punishment Iran is willing to take when a deal is on the table. They cannot win, nor can they 'win by not losing', either.

Iran upgraded to decentralized 31-zone mosaic defense, mobile shoot-scoot SAMs (HQ-9B + Bavar-373), passive IR tracking. End of easy overflights; two US jets lost in one day shows adaptation works, raises costs for Hormuz ops.

They have adapted & adjusted tactics so quickly. Mentally Iran has been ready for the war.

🚨 So… about that “world’s most powerful military” 👀 An Iranian drone really woke up and said: “That Chinook looks expensive… let’s fix that.” 💥🚁 Now the CH-47 is out here doing a permanent landing in Kuwait 😭 Guess even billion-dollar machines forgot to install… anti-drone updates 🤖🤣

Then why has it taken a month to shoot down 2 planes??

The result: two American aircraft down in a single day after America has hit 11,000+ targets in Iran, destroyed the entire IRGC, navy, air force and command, etc. Such amazing defenses 🤔 Air dominance intact! 🇺🇸

Hi @grok After five weeks of U.S. air operations, Iran suddenly downing two jets in one day is this proof their post-12-day-war upgrades actually work, or just lucky shots/propaganda as some replies claim? Trump just purged multiple top U.S. generals and admirals. Does losing experienced leadership right when Iran’s defenses prove tougher make this riskier, or was it necessary to install people ready for the new reality? The former IAF commander’s warning hits hard. With passive infrared, mobile systems, and Chinese tech now in play, does this force the U.S. to rethink strategy on Iran (and the Strait of Hormuz)? Allies like France and UK are already calling military options “unrealistic” and pushing sanctions/diplomacy instead. Is Iran’s upgraded air defense making confrontation too costly, or does it prove Trump was right to act fast?

Two American planes shot, including a fifty year old A-10, and Mario is already whining about losing air dominance. Pure propaganda.

“A former Israeli Air Force commander explains why Iran is shooting down American jets...” Probably because the American jets are attacking them? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The 31 Iranian defense zones acting independently is called the Mosaic Defesne.

The biggest shift here isn’t just better tech, it’s decentralization. When every zone can act independently, you can’t cripple the system with one strike anymore. That changes the whole air war dynamic.

thousands of planes have been roaming their sky for over a month now every single day and after 15,000 bombardments they have only been able to take out 2 planes lol

Didn’t Trump say that Iran’s navy and all military power were all destroyed during the 1st few weeks of the war by the U.S and Israel military strikes? The U.S. needs to talk to Iran. TALK. Not Threaten. TALK. Iran has very powerful friends .

Horseshit! Plain and simple. 15,000+ air strikes, one plane down in enemy territory. This is such an unbelievable demonstration of complete Air Dominance that it is virtually F-35’s vs. cavemen throwing rocks, cave men yet to develop slings no less. The expectation that we would lose only one (or none) aircraft after even 15,000+ high intensity training missions is next to nil. It is virtually miraculous. The fact the Iranians may have got lucky with one manpad shot out of over 15,000 air strikes does not demonstrate any “superduper” Chinese Technology paired with Iranian “super missile capabilities”. It demonstrates dumb luck or normal mechanical attrition finally getting its due. The fact they could then maybe shoot down a slow moving helicopter on a rescue mission to a well known and very limited flight area speaks not to superiority of technology but rather to the vastly greater risk and exposure rescue missions entail. Your comment and the comment Mario Nawfal quotes is literally nothing but mindless propaganda. In simple terms it is a lie, it is a fiction, it is wishful thinking on the part of enemies of the USA, of enemies of civilization, of Iranian Terrorist Regime apologists.

The loss of two aircraft over the course of TWELVE THOUSAND combat sorties is now being paraded as proof of American defeat. By that standard, every air force in history has been routed several times over. The real story is not that losses occurred, but that people have forgotten they are inevitable in war.

Mario Mario Mario do you ever get tired of posting bull shit. Iran is toast

IRGC gets lucky taking down two low flying American aircraft, but forget that we have been annihilating them for 35 days. Today’s another day, losers.

When they shoot down Israeli jets, then I will believe the "ex-commander." Somebody wants escalation in Iran, knowing full well how Trump hates either any showing of weakness or death to US service members. Suddenly, when a suspicious video circulating of a US service member beheaded, and "masked" people screaming Allahu Akbar and dragging the body tied to a vehicle, then we will know that a nefarious plan has been hatched.

Don’t you just love it when a bot posts a ridiculous fabrication (the best ones use technical terms, army lingo & weapon system names & never fail to add ex-commander/professor/expert for good measure) and then the Marios & other useful idiots repost it? Go on - repost some more

The Gulf War lasted for 43 days and the coalition lost about 40 planes. Now the US lost one F15 and an A-10 Warthog that was involved in search and rescue low ass flying after 33 days with over 11,000 targets hit, then Iran suddenly has Chinese induced capabilities. Your support for Iranian regime is glaring. Just own up to it

Not buying that assumption. Lucky shots.

Ditching over-reliance on older Russian tech and rebuilding smarter has paid off two US jets down in one day after weeks of claimed air dominance shows their lessons learned are working. The 'walk in the park' era is definitely over.

Iran’s air defenses just got a serious upgrade — decentralized zones, mobile shoot-and-scoot from tunnels, passive infrared tracking, plus solid Chinese and homegrown systems. No more easy flyovers. Respect the resilience 💪🇮🇷

Dude you've been wrong on essentially every claim over the last 5 weeks

They never “ditched Russian technology” Russia refused to sell them S-300 systems and they had to develop their own. Its performance is completely speculative

Please obey your master, attack it go goys.

No Israeli pilot told you or anyone that. The fact is, that there’s air superiority exactly as the one achieved in 2025

Considering all what you’ve said, i stil believe all this happening is because trump didn’t have proper war plan and strategic layout for this war

Its because Israel again lied to america and told them they'd taken them out when they knew they hadn't. This is from an Israeli news paper...

@Baracuda471 The new wars are missiles drones

Well they also have support from Russia and China, the only large countries they could trade with during the sanctions, so we are now in the Find Out stage of FAFO teetering on WW3

How that going?

So much misinformation 🤔 Israel and the US conducted tens of thousands of air strikes against Iran. The number of U.S. manned aircraft’s being destroyed is less than 10 This is air superiority by any measure. I think that the Israeli-US air strikes will intensify next week

So Russian systems are trash and China systems are gold.

Hagseth orders his army chief to retire, lo,next day 2 fighters shot down in iran by Iranians who been getting rogered for past 36 days, funny things can happen in wars. All of a sudden iran gets anti aircraft weapons and its making hits too, funny things can happen in wars