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👽 Agreements Between Humans and Non-Humans (NHI)? 👽 (Why are the powers that be SO desperate to keep this secret and discredit whistleblowers? Is the ultimate boss...NHI? Is that too crazy to consider? Others have suggested it.) Coulthart Voiceover: "But if this non-human intelligence is so advanced, and at... show more
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![🔥 Burlison to Trump: "Just waive [NDAs] completely for anything related to...non-human intelligence." 🔥 (Yes!!! He gets it. Burlison is one of the few Rs who will push (even if it's gently) the Trump admin on these issues. Make it right for whistleblowers like Grusch, Dylan Borland, Matthew and others.) Rep. Eric Burlison: "...the cost of pensions, their medical benefits, you know, etc. I think that, first and foremost, you got to make it right to those people. That will demonstrate to everybody else who wants to come forward that it's a safe place to come into. "And then I think what what Rep. Anna Paulina Luna is leading on is fantastic, in that making sure that the administration knows that there may be some times where these individuals who were working, you know, they were promoted into a system or a program. Sometimes...they're now inheriting things where they, where they realize, well, there's crimes involved in this. "And so, you know, they're kind of put in an awkward situation. Do they do their patriotic duty? What do they do? I think that providing some level of amnesty for them to be able to come forward is very, very important. And then, I finally think, also, that they need to waive the non-disclosure agreements on this topic. Particularly just waive it completely for anything related to the knowledge of life that's outside, you know, non-human intelligence. I mean, I don't see why we possibly should even allow that to be a top secret thing. "And so, if there's anything that's related to that, it should be waived. I think that that's what our ask is of this administration, as well as to continue digging into the private sector. I think that a lot of this information is in the in the hands of either the...or the archives of these federally-funded research and development centers and then further some of the some of the prime subs (subcontractors) that have been working on this topic. "And so I think that it's gonna take making it clear that to our major companies that we do business with, or do business with the United States, that it's okay to come forward. And I think that we're gonna have to have a discussion if they do have - if they're reverse engineering stuff that they got because it was from non-human intelligence - we need to make sure that we can have that conversation about intellectual property, so that those are the next steps."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2070156660132470811/amplify_video_thumb/2070153614874828800/img/pNcDajnAL8J3YoPR.jpg)
![🛸 Are Dr. Phil and Grusch About to Take a Road Trip Out West to See Non-Human Craft and Cadavers 🛸 "Sometimes those certain things [non-human craft] are hard to move, you know, when they're a particular size." ~Grusch (Looks Like Ross Coulthart and Rep. Eric Burlison had some pretty good sources on the craft too big to move.) Dr. Phil: "I guess my question to you is: If the President said, 'Okay, Dr. Phil - with or without cameras, whatever - if David knows where these things are, and [I gave you] the clearance to accompany [Grusch] there...' "[Do] you have the ability to take me to where we could see a craft and a cadaver somewhere, somehow.?" Grusch: "Oh yeah, we could take a little field trip out west, we'll say, yeah. And we could certainly go to those facilities, so." Dr. Phil: "And you believe there would still be something at one of these places that we would be able to actually see (knocks on the table), knock on something three dimensional that's there?" Grusch: "Yeah. Yeah, sometimes those certain things are hard to move, you know, when they're a particular size, it's a little bit laborious to move. So I think there's some locations that likely are untouched because... I'll be very vague on that. Not to spook the herd." Dr. Phil: "Yeah, I understand, and I don't... You know, I've discussed this with the President. I've discussed it with Stephen Miller, I've discussed it with Representative Burchett and and Luna. I've had discussions, and I believe there are people from the President on down that truly want transparency and believe that the American people are entitled to know their circumstance in the Universe. I believe they truly want that to happen." (I think Luna and Burchett want it. Not so sure about Miller, and I'm skeptical that Trump cares either way. But if we have (or had) live non-human beings in captivity, as Grusch spoke about in this interview. how could he NOT care?) Grusch: "Yeah." Dr, Phil: "I think it gets garbled downstream."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2087992761421357222/amplify_video_thumb/2087984273924263936/img/tlkM-QbGI7xUI1yp.jpg)
![👽 Did Grusch See Footage of Live Aliens? 👽 "Grusch has seen evidence that will leave you slack-jawed when you hear it." ~JF 😶 What Left Congress Speechless, and Staffers with Their Eyes Popping Out of Their Heads? 😱 ~ "Examine biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." ~Burlison Proposed Legislation (I'm gonna break all of this down and give you my speculation on what left Fox with his jaw on the floor, members of Congress speechless, and their senior staffers with their eyes popping out of their heads.) ~ James Fox: " Probably about two weeks ago (late May), we were having meetings on The Hill with members of Congress. We brought in a PR firm, 42 West, and we were having a meeting with staff members, bipartisan. We had Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, Rep. Tim Burchett Press Office, Rep. Eric Burlison. We had a representative from Congressman Jared Moskowitz's office. We had a number of Chiefs of Staff (top staffer for a specific member of Congress), like, present." (Don't really know why they needed a public relations firm in attendance, but if it helps them with advice on how to handle this, so be it. Just know: it appears like members of that PR firm know what Grusch said, and we don't.) Fox: "And, I can't reveal what was said. I thought it was gonna be said at the actual event that we had yesterday (June 9th) in DC with Mr. Grusch." (Don't be mad at Fox for keeping his word to Grusch and not sharing what was said in that private meeting. But I don't blame people for being annoyed that Grusch shared this information six or so weeks ago and we still don't know what he said in that room.) Fox: "Then, what Mr. Grusch revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes, left the room speechless. It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like, I simply couldn't believe what he'd seen with his own eyes. Like, I can't wait for it to come out. "So I asked Mr. Grusch today, 'Can I talk about what I heard?' And he's like, 'No, but I will be addressing it very soon.'" (Like I said, it's almost been one month now (June 12) since Fox said this, so what does "very soon" mean? Was Grusch supposed to share this information on CNN with Jake Tapper last week but it didn't happen because that interview was, reportedly (Fox told us), postponed?) Fox: "So that's where we stand right now. But I can tell you, Mr. Grusch has seen evidence that will leave you slack-jawed when you hear it. It's coming, it's coming." (We heard that Gruch's Op/Ed was coming soon and that was 2.5 years ago. It never happened. So, I don't blame people for being skeptical about this. If Grusch hasn't told us by this time next week, I propose someone (a member of Congress) who was in that room just tell us. That's fair, right? Total transparency from our elected representatives?) ~ Fox: "Mr. Grusch is legitimately concerned about his personal safety. He's coming out with it, I promise you, this is coming out. He assured me today that he will address this issue to the general public very soon, in the near future." (I'm glad Grusch told a room full of people what he saw, as that may offer him some protection from people who allegedly want him to stop talking.) Fox: "So I can't speak to what he's gonna say, but I'm just telling you from what I heard out of his mouth, sitting in an office of a member of Congress? And everybody (Fox laughs) in the room, you could have heard a pin drop." Clayton Morris: "Could you give us a hint? Is it related to craft? Can you maybe dance around it a little bit? I want to say, 'You're killing me, Smalls (laughs).'" Fox: "Yeah, so if you can imagine, if you know about 'Moment of Contact,' that involves captured non-human intelligent beings. Think about that for a minute. Think about that case. I heard it out of his mouth, and I can tell you, I was in the room. And I looked around the room, and I'm looking at these young, like, guys in their 20s, you know, the staff guys? And their eyeballs were popping out of their head. My jaw was on the floor. I couldn't believe it." (There's a reason why I included that quote (living or deceased non-human intelligence) from the new Burlison/Carson/Crane legislation at the top of this tweet: At the very least, I'm confident Grusch told them that he saw photos of dead non-human beings. Bodies. But what about evidence of LIVING non-humans, aka aliens of unknown origin? More on that at the end. Fox: "My jaw was on the floor. I couldn't believe it." (Would Grusch saying he saw photos of craft and dead non-humans have that type of effect on Fox? Seems like that's something he would have expected to hear.) ~ Fox: "It was an [out of] body experience when I heard that. But I can tell you...the impression I got, was that he felt a little more protected to talk about this because of President Trump's directive to release the files, and that this... Again, this is my speculation, okay? This is not what Mr. Grusch said. "I got the impression that he was much more relaxed - even though he was still not fully relaxed - because of President Trump's directive to release these files. And that it was something that he had seen during his official investigations just within the last few years." (Imagine how much more relaxed Grusch (and others) would feel if we had an actual Executive Order from Trump with strong language to protect whistleblowers?) Fox: "And that it...I think it had an extremely profound impact on his life when he saw this evidence that he described. Again I'm leaving it right there. I've been talking with Republicans, and they said if Joe Rogan tweets about this, that the President will hear it, And I can't overstate the significance of that." (Why hasn't Rogan already done that? No excuse. Fox has been on Rogan and I'm sure he has Joe's contact information. Make it happen.) Fox: "We need people. We're not asking for money, we're not asking to get on your show, we're just asking, Mr. President, please, as many people as possible, release the files that should not be associated with national security. And that's the alien or non-human sentient beings. That's it." ~~~ (I'm going to speculate on what Grusch may have said in that room.) Fox: "I think it had an extremely profound impact on [Grusch's] life when he saw this evidence that he described." (Grusch has said he started out as a skeptic when he started looking into this. If he was shown what he felt were photos of non-human bodies, I think that might be enough to have an, "extremely profound impact on his life." Depending on exactly what those photos showed, of course.) In "Moment of Contact," Eric Davis had this exchange with Fox: James Fox: "Put me wherever you were when you got to see photographs of crash retrieval and documents. What did that feel like?" Dr. Eric Davis: "That was startling, when I actually see recorded evidence with my own eyes. Photographs, reports, and whatnot. That took it to a higher level, that kicked it up several notches of reality. And that made it very clear that this reality is very hard, very physical, very real. "And this type of evidence, you can't come by in the open literature, it's not public, it's classified. And I can't discuss what it was, but I can tell you, yeah, it's a crash retrieval, there's a craft, and there's alien bodies. That's all I can say about it." Fox: "You swear on your life that you saw those pictures?" Davis: "Oh, I swear on my life, and everybody's...my children's life, so (laughs). Yeah, I'm absolutely telling you the truth. I saw the evidence, and it's stark! I can't tell you the exact number, because it's classified, but I'll just say, there's a few dozen total retrievals." Full exchange with video... ~~~ As I said in my other post, I think Davis, Semivan, Puthoff, Kelleher, Grusch, Lacatski, Stratton, aka The AAWSAP Gang (I just made that up), may have seen the same evidence of photos and reports. Has Grusch seen more than that? I don't know. In 2025, Davis said this... Burlison: "Can you comment on whatever species have been piloting these craft? Are they largish? Are they multiple species? What was their size, and how many are usually on a craft?" Davis: "They're typically the multiple species people are familiar with. The Greys, the Nordics. People have talked about Reptilians and Insectoids. It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoid, it's that they resemble, to the participant, a reptile, or insect type. A humanoid, because they have this...a hand, and four limbs, and a torso, so..." Burlison: "Large? Small?" Davis: "Human size, human scale." Burlison: "How many are in a crew?" Davis: "Well, the group, well, the Greys I'm familiar with from investigating the crash at Corona, which is misnamed the crash at Roswell. It's not the crash at Roswell, it's the crash at Corona, New Mexico. Those were Greys, those were four-foot tall. And the Nordics are typically human-sized, probably...I've heard five, six-feet tall. And same with the people who mislabel Reptilian and Insectoid. They're roughly that height, too. I haven't heard anything about anything seven or eight feet or nine-foot tall, of that nature." Full post with video... ~ And this past Sunday, Davis said this to The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford... Davis: "I can say to you guys that there are a minimum of four different alien species. The credibility of that ranges on the spectrum from no credibility to high credibility. The high credibility is the classified part." Full post: My Final Thoughts (Based on everything Davis has shared, it seems he saw classified photos of what appeared to him to be non-human craft and photos that appeared to show dead non-humans (bodies) with enough detail that he could see that some resembled reptiles and others resembled insects. Were there also photos of Greys and beings that looked human (Nordic)? I don't know. These images of non-humans would fall into what Davis deemed "high credibility" and "the classified part.") Davis: "I saw the evidence, and it's stark!" (If Davis saw close-up photos that showed details of beings that looked like Reptilians and Mantids, I'd say that qualifies as stark!) Back to what Fox said... Fox: "Then, what Mr. Grusch revealed to all of us, what he had seen with his own eyes, left the room speechless. It drew the oxygen out of the room. I looked at everybody in that room, and their eyeballs were popping out. My jaw was on the floor. Like, I simply couldn't believe what he'd seen with his own eyes." (I think what caused that reaction was Grusch describing seeing close-up photos of different types of non-human beings. Maybe.) However, Fox also said this: "...if you can imagine, if you know about 'Moment of Contact,' that involves captured non-human intelligent beings (This is the Varginha, Brazil case. ~Joe). Think about that for a minute. Think about that case. I heard it out of his mouth, and I can tell you, I was in the room." (The biggest CLAIM in that film and from that case is that a live, non-human being was captured and that Dr. Italo saw video of it, and then stood next to it for a few minutes when it was in the hospital, in a bed, being cared for by another doctor. Did Grusch say he saw evidence (photos or videos) of a live being that appeared to be non-human? Joe Rogan asked him that in his November 2023 interview... Grusch: "Once you realize the phenomenon's real, then you realize we've recovered artifacts and, you know, biologics or, you know, dead pilots, if you will, even though it's kind of creepy to think about in your world view. You don't think they were ever, you know, alive sometimes, too, right? And I'll leave it at that, only because, you know, that is something the President and his cabinet need to disclose this in a controlled manner." (He was either hinting that he's seen them alive or that them being alive and on this planet is a huge deal and not his responsibility to announce. I think it's the latter.) Rogan: "Are there discussions of interactions with live beings?" Grusch: "Uhh, there was some water-cooler talk about that kind of thing." Rogan: "But that's it?" Grusch: "But, you know, I don't even wanna get into it because it's like, uh, there was some details provided to me but it's like, it's secondary and I don't know if that's like, the telephone game and I don't know if it was hyperbolized in any way...um, you know, in the break room, so to speak. So I just... I'm so anal about making sure what I say is accurate...I don't, you know, I don't know." (Based on what he said there, it seems like he has NOT seen any evidence of live beings. If he now comes out and says that he has, it will seem like a flip flop. So, I'm gonna go with Grusch said he saw photos of non-human bodies and they were of the different types/species that Dr. Eric Davis referenced. One more flashback to what Davis said in that public, congressional briefing in May of 2025.) Davis: "It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoid, it's that they resemble, to the participant, a reptile, or insect type." (That sounds like someone who has seen exactly what they look like, via photos.) Final point... "Examine biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." ~Burlison Proposed Legislation (That language was in the original UAPD Disclosure Act co-sponsored by Senators Schumer and Rounds, and four other senators. Why put that language in there if you haven't heard credible reports of living or deceased (bodies) non-human intelligence? Are there stories of living, non-humans on this planet? Yes, and I'll leave you with one of them.) ) (Just to make it clear: I think Grusch will say that he saw clear photos of different types of non-human bodies and some looked like reptiles and others looked like insects. It would be amazing to hear Grusch say he saw video or film of living beings, but I don't expect that. However...this still bothers me... Would Grusch describing seeing photos of craft and different kinds of dead aliens leave veteran-of-the-UFO-field, James Fox, with his jaw on the floor? I guess we're gonna see. And hopefully soon.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2075447649453691237/amplify_video_thumb/2075447438866006017/img/nXEwcYZHCI2fyrrG.jpg)
![👽 Biological Analysis of Non-Human Bodies 👽 Avi: Was Grusch Shown Russian or Chinese Craft and Bodies of Foreign Adversaries, But Mistakenly Thought it was Aliens? Professor Avi Loeb: "Garry, there is one alternative interpretation. I truly believe the integrity and the truthfulness of David Grusch. But one possible interpretation that is nothing to do with alien technology would be to say, 'Of course there are projects that are retrieving material and biologics from crash sites, but these are of objects that came from adversarial nations. And then we want to figure [how to] the reverse engineer the technologies that those nations have. "And of course, there will be different types of aliens. These would be humans from different ethnic origins. And, of course, there are places where these are stored. And suppose people were talking about it with some code names, and David Grusch heard these reports, but it's not really aliens; it's actually human-made things. "So that's the only other, you know, interpretation I can give, assuming that he's telling us the truth, as he knows. So then the question is: How do we know if it's this interpretation or real aliens, non-human?" Nolan: "I agree completely. I agree." (I disagree completely. First off, I don't think the U.S. is in the business of showing photos and videos of dead, foreign adversaries to someone investigating the UFO subject. And I'm glad Peter Skafish - Peter Skafish - chimed in with his thoughts.) Skafish: "The counter argument to the possibility that everyone is confused here, which I don't believe is the case with David Grusch. I don't believe it's the case with Hal Puthoff. I don't believe it's the case with Eric Davis. And I could name you know 10 other people like that. "The counter argument is that you could very easily verify this by not going and looking in a hangar for some kind of piece of technology that wasn't anthropogenic. You simply could, internally, get the records that show there is such a program. It says it's about the following things: non-anthropogenic technology, for example, or, as we hear, off-world technology. Get enough confirmation from people internally that yes, that's what we work on. And then the matter is solved internally. "The question is, is how then do you communicate to the public that okay, yes, part of the intelligence community knows there are technologies not made by human beings? And I think that's where it comes to the natural sciences. As you all have pointed out in different ways, that even if all of that is true, verification will still need to come, publicly, from scientists." (IMO, the public is gonna need to see the evidence (bodies, craft, etc.) on display and hear analysis from independent experts as to why they feel it's non-human or anomalous in nature. Grusch referenced that type of analysis when he was on with Joe Rogan.) ~ Rogan: "When it comes to these...actual entities...do we have an understanding of how many of them we're talking about, and the variety of them?" Grusch: "There is a variety and we have a certain number of (laughs) different things... I talked to people who were familiar with the biological analysis of everything. So we have some idea, not a complete picture because it's like, you know, looking at it, it's like, well I don't even understand the physiology at all. It's like, what the heck? It's like way different, right? So..." Rogan: "Is there a description of this physiology?" Grusch: "Yeah, no, I was in the room when uhhh... I gotta be careful, I don't wanna... I was in Washington, DC with a very number of senior people that work for members of Congress (Senate staffers seems like a safe bet ~Joe). Put it that way. When I was still in government. And I brought the people who worked on that stuff to The Hill. And this is why the members were so confident to put out the Schumer amendment and stuff. And, I was like, 'Please explain.' And they went into all those details and stuff. And I remember (laughs) some of the professional staff members were like, 'Whoa.' Like they were like, in G-Loc, right? Cause, I mean, and like a total world bubble got burst right there for a lot of people." (To me, an alternative explanation - for Grusch and Davis saying they saw photos and reports (and in Grusch's case, videos, too) of non-human craft and bodies, and Semivan saying he's seen photos of craft and MAYBE bodies - is they were all shown fake photos, videos and reports. Is that even something that could be pulled off? Dr, James Lacatski, who ran AAWSAP, had this to say about forged documents.) Lacatski: "Okay, and I have seen, in multiple cases, what I would call, can only call forged documents. So..." Corbell: "Okay, so there's another thing we should talk about. So, what do you mean by that? There have been forged documents?" Licatski: "They're forged. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're... They're documents talking about programs that are not legitimate documents." Corbell: "Within intelligence servers, within your industry, there are forged documents inside of our government's intel, you know... Or what are you talking about? Just on the internet? Are you talking about..." Lacatski: "I'm talking about both." Corbell: "Really. What, how could that happen, forged documents inside our intelligence agency servers?" Lacatski: "Well, you know... They even covered this on an X-Files episode. Every Special Access Program has a counterintelligence officer. That's their job! You know, it's their job." (So the counterintelligence folks make up fake documents to throw adversaries off the trail in case they ever learn about the program or, God forbid, get access? I believe that's what he's saying.) Lacatski: "So, you know, you might say, 'Well, wait a minute, Jim, and Colm are counterintelligence officers.' No, we're not. You know, there's no reason to be. But, if you're in a program, you have that person either assigned to you, or you bring him in. And there's a source of forged documents right there. Have your listeners and readers go back through the UFO history and you'll see fingers pointing to others that, again, I won't name them, that, 'Hey, this is all fabricated.'" (Grusch, Davis and Semivan need to be asked about these alternative explanations.)](https://image.24vids.com/tw-2090530066879111312/amplify_video_thumb/2090511277454217216/img/bvDRsp8ZXHEOiRWg.jpg)
![🛸👽🔥 Grusch is Back! More Excellent Coverage! 🔥👽🛸 🛸👽🔥 Grusch: I've Seen Intelligence Reports Featuring Photos of Craft and Bodies of Non-humans - Trump is Certainly Very Well Informed on UAP 🔥👽🛸 (Partial and rushed transcript) "There's some other things that are happening behind the scenes that I'll let the [Tump] administration discuss when they're ready." Why are they here? "Could it because we have interesting genetic material on Earth? We're a Jurassic Park tourist attraction for them? Could be a myriad of reasons." ~ Grusch: "I was, actually, partially cleared into some of those activities. It was beyond oral testimony provided to me. I actually had partial access to the data and actually read the intelligence reports resulting from those programs." Baier: "With your own eyes? You saw it?" Grusch: "Correct. Yes." Where's the evidence? Grusch: "Certainly members of this current administration are very well aware of this reality. Certainly, the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership on it, and I think he's assembled in an A team cabinet. And I really believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader, likely in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues." ~ Trump (from a clip): "I've never been convinced. For some reason, it's not my thing." ~ Baier: " So you think, one, he knows, and two, he's open to transparency on UAPs?" Grusch: "He certainly is very well informed on this issue. I'll leave it at that. I don't want to get ahead of what the President might want to reveal, personally." Baier: "And when you mentioned in that testimony of recovering the pilots or remains, non-human? That's something that you saw, as far as the intelligence, with your eyes?" Grusch: "Yes. And it is a very uncomfortable, even for me now, as somebody who's seen it, experienced it, even talking about it, because it's so outside a normal person's world view, to understand that there is this biological sentience that have piloted these crafts, that don't necessarily look 100% like you and I." Baier: "Were there pictures, were there?" Grusch: "There were. Yes, there were." Baier: "We recovered things, you say." Grusch: "Yeah." Baier: "Bodies and physical remains. Was there a sense that the motive of whether...how they got here, what they were doing? Was it peaceful? Not peaceful?" Grusch: "We've seen a mixed bag of activity. And, motive and intent, why they're visiting? Once again, that gets into our assessments, not necessarily...we can't quite understand the intent of some of the sentience and why they're visiting. Could it because we have interesting genetic material on Earth? We're a Jurassic Park tourist attraction for them? Could be a myriad of reasons." "I believe there's an appetite with the administration to do the right thing on this as well. And there's some other things that are happening behind the scenes that I'll let the administration discuss when they're ready."](https://image.24vids.com/tw-1992022768041488863/amplify_video_thumb/1992016775597432832/img/PAP492fKEDLWC_SF.jpg)
