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🚨Aliens Aren't What We Think They Are... "The extraterrestrial hypothesis doesn't do justice to the data." "If they're coming here to do some sort of reconnaissance or some sort of investigation, why have they continued to land over and over again? And why are there so many different variations...

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The Idea of NHI on Earth. ⬇️⬇️⬇️ 🔥"The gravity of it goes up a whole lot if it goes from the theoretical to the verified." ~Dr. Phil 🔥 "There have been people that have reported being abducted over the years. What's the intent behind that? Is it medical? Is it more nefarious?" ~BZ to Dr. Phil (I'm so glad Bryce went there.) "There will be people...who likely are going to need some some assistance to help deal with this because it is so far-reaching and for some people, potentially, very frightening." ~Mellon ~ Dr. Phil: "We know in the last 80 years there have been no overt hostile acts that we know about. That doesn't mean there could be things happening that are attributable to these forces that we don't know about. But, we certainly don't have any attacks that we can attribute to these UAPs or whatever." (Well, there's Colares in 1977. If that was non-human in nature, I'd say that qualifies as overt. And the Thomas Mantell incident in 1948 where he crashed and died after pursuing a UFO. Was that overt? Unfortunately, we don't know what happened and probably never will.) Dr. Phil: "And if the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, I think people can take some comfort in knowing that if they were gonna melt us with a ray gun or something of that nature, they've had ample opportunity to do that. "They may have been here 1000 years before we were here. Who knows what the situation is? But we do know that as long as we've been monitoring this and tracking it, there have been no overt hostile acts and I think people can take some comfort in that, and should." (See the work of Peter Levenda for a deeper look at that. "They might have been attacking us for centuries already, in ways that make sense to them... What if they are attacking us through the manipulation of consciousness? ~Peter Levenda More... ⬇️⬇️⬇️ ~ (I'm glad Bryce pushed back a bit.) Bryce Zabel: "They should. The only thing I would say is, if we're dealing with a non-human intelligence - or an NHI, as we like to say now - we'd have to assume that they think differently than us. So even in our own world, in the United States, we tend to think in four-year terms because of presidential terms, right? So you can't get something off the ground if it can't get done right away. The Chinese may think in 100-year terms when they think about Taiwan or whatever. "It's possible there are alien or non-human intelligences that think in a different time frame. If their time frame was 1000 years, then they could just be getting started. "And on the topic of the nuclear issue, which I share concern of. I mean, I think the nuclear issue means it is at least a national-security issue of some kind. Now, I've heard people talk about this, Dr. Phil, two different ways. Some people say, 'Well, you know, they're looking at our nuclear capabilities because they want to protect us from ourselves.' "Okay, that's great, I hope that's true. But the other would be: what do you do before you actually go to war with anybody, is you do reconnaissance. You try to find out what the other guy has. What are their assets? What are their capabilities?" (That may freak out some people but all angles should be considered.) Zabel: "So, I think the problem that we need to overcome in this country is getting to a place where we understand this phenomenon that we're encountering enough that we can at least start to figure out intent. What is the intent? "There have been people that have reported being abducted over the years. What's the intent behind that? Is it medical? Is it more nefarious? What is it? And so, we got a lot of work to do, and I think that's why I am so supportive of your current efforts because you're, basically, saying, 'Let's get started, people. Let's really take this seriously. Let's quit fooling around and stigmatizing people that want to take it seriously, and let's get to work.' But let's get to work as a human race. Let's start sharing what we know and let's make progress. That's where I'm coming from, too." (Bringing up abductions is important because it IS part of this discussion and it shouldn't be avoided. Kudos to Bryce!) Dr. Phil: "I saw a study that said 71% of Americans believe that there are aliens that have been or are in our earthly space. And it's interesting...I read that in one context, it said, 'Look, this is not going to be such a big deal if this gets verified.' "You know, there's one thing to say that in the abstract, like, 'Yeah, I think yeah probably there are.' It's a whole other different situation if you turn around and see somebody standing there. The gravity of it goes up a whole lot if it goes from the theoretical to the verified. (100%. That's my favorite part of the interview and it's so true.) Dr. Phil: "And I hope that we are going to put enough context around this, particularly knowing that there are segments of our population that are very vulnerable. There are some elderly folks that aren't up on technology and might be overwhelmed by the reality of this. "We have certain populations that might be easily disoriented or destabilized in the mental emotional fringes of the population. And I worry about those that are easily exploitable. You know, you need to get out of the urban areas, buy our buried school bus in the mountains, and you'll be safe forever. You know the con artists and the scammers are going to find every opportunity to prey upon those that are concerned and worried about this. "And I think we need to be prepared to take care of those that might be destabilized by this information that's coming out right now, we can't pretend they aren't there. We've made those mistakes in the past, like during COVID, for example. There are those that are more impacted than others, and we need to be prepared to handle that." Christopher K. Mellon: "We, recently, commissioned a study by a group of six psychologists, PhD psychologists, on this topic of how the public would receive this information. And it was generally very encouraging. And what they found was that the great bulk of the population, as they have in the past with other epical changes such as the Copernican principle, or evolution, or general relativity, it takes people a while to process this information. There's a period of resistance. But most people will get up, get out of bed, go to work the next day. They're not devastated, even though there's nothing quite comparable to this, perhaps." (There's no perhaps. A government or respected figure admitting that we're not alone on this planet would be unprecedented and there is NOTHING we can compare it to.) Mellon: "What the study did find is that there is likely, however, to be a subset of people, maybe 15% of the population, that are going to need some help. And that we are not necessarily prepared in our present state to provide that kind of assistance, and we need to be doing more to get ready for that." (If he's talking world population, that's about 1.2 BILLION people who are going to need some help dealing with this. Holy crap. 😬) Mellon: "And also, to work on the messaging. The messaging is so important, clear and consistent messaging from the government, trying to develop trust with the American people so that the information is is accepted and acted on." (For me, I want the whole truth more than the right "message.") Mellon: "A lot of the difference will be people who can't get their head around it, even though they really understand it. But because of their own belief structure, the architecture of their own belief structure, for some reason, in their particular individual case, it's particularly threatening or disruptive. "So there will be people who fall into that category, according to this study, who likely are going to need some some assistance to help deal with this because it is so far-reaching and for some people, potentially, very frightening."

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🔥 Burlison to Trump: "Just waive [NDAs] completely for anything related to...non-human intelligence." 🔥 (Yes!!! He gets it. Burlison is one of the few Rs who will push (even if it's gently) the Trump admin on these issues. Make it right for whistleblowers like Grusch, Dylan Borland, Matthew and others.) Rep. Eric Burlison: "...the cost of pensions, their medical benefits, you know, etc. I think that, first and foremost, you got to make it right to those people. That will demonstrate to everybody else who wants to come forward that it's a safe place to come into. "And then I think what what Rep. Anna Paulina Luna is leading on is fantastic, in that making sure that the administration knows that there may be some times where these individuals who were working, you know, they were promoted into a system or a program. Sometimes...they're now inheriting things where they, where they realize, well, there's crimes involved in this. "And so, you know, they're kind of put in an awkward situation. Do they do their patriotic duty? What do they do? I think that providing some level of amnesty for them to be able to come forward is very, very important. And then, I finally think, also, that they need to waive the non-disclosure agreements on this topic. Particularly just waive it completely for anything related to the knowledge of life that's outside, you know, non-human intelligence. I mean, I don't see why we possibly should even allow that to be a top secret thing. "And so, if there's anything that's related to that, it should be waived. I think that that's what our ask is of this administration, as well as to continue digging into the private sector. I think that a lot of this information is in the in the hands of either the...or the archives of these federally-funded research and development centers and then further some of the some of the prime subs (subcontractors) that have been working on this topic. "And so I think that it's gonna take making it clear that to our major companies that we do business with, or do business with the United States, that it's okay to come forward. And I think that we're gonna have to have a discussion if they do have - if they're reverse engineering stuff that they got because it was from non-human intelligence - we need to make sure that we can have that conversation about intellectual property, so that those are the next steps."

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'To them, we could be like a fungus. Some might say, 'Look, if they were going to do harm to us, wouldn't they have done it by now?' I don't know. We think we're at the top of the food chain. What if, we're not?" (This is SO GOOD and worth your time. Kudos to Dr. Phil because this is one of the best I've seen from a mainstream voice in discussing the, potential, issues with Disclosure that something more advanced is on this planet with us. It was uploaded to his YT on May 8th of this year.) ~ Dr. Phil: "I mean, think about it. Doesn't it cause us to question the meaning of humanity and the cosmos? Wouldn't it change that? Wouldn't it cause us to have to reexamine philosophy, religion, personal worldviews? "Potential reframing of human exceptionalism that we base our value systems on, is that we're at the top of the food chain. That there is human exceptionalism. That we, as humans, are the be-all and end-all of this world. And then, all of a sudden, we find out, not true. To them, we could be like a fungus. "People have posed questions like, 'Well, if they're here, why haven't they talked to us? Why haven't they identified themselves to us?' It may be that we're so minuscule and irrelevant, why would they bother. "And so, the psychological impact on individuals, the individual effects, could result in acute stress, just being awestruck, unbelievable curiosity, and existential anxiety. Like, who are we? If we're not at the top of the food chain, if we're not the be-all and end-all of the Universe, then what are we? Are we like gum on the shoe of the superior beings? How would we explain all of that? "And so people would begin to look for coping strategies, immediately seeking information, spiritual exploration, figuring out how do I fit in? And then, in terms of community dynamics, the world, it could be very divisive. It could increase everything that we do, culturally, religiously, political identities. Rumors, and misinformation could flourish, especially on the web. Oh my God, can you imagine what would start flying around then? Making trusted communicators really crucial. And if there's a crisis of confidence with the government because they've lied to you for so long, where do you go to get real information? "And the long-term mental health aspects when you don't know the motives or the intent of these entities could create chronic worry, conspiracy thinking, paranoia, feelings of unbelievable inadequacy. Some may celebrate with renewed optimism, like 'Wow, look what we found! These people, if they can do all this, maybe they can cure all the diseases. They can come up with solutions to problems. This is great!' "How would governments react (laughs)? Russia, China, United States would all be scrambling to establish some kind of process for monitoring potential collaboration. Our intelligence communities would go crazy. Our Department of Defense, our science agencies would have to start redoing everything, revisiting risk assessment. "Of course, we would be trying to establish exchange programs. Maybe they're not even interested? Like I say, we could be like gum on their shoe. Who knows? How do you feel about that? "If they were to reveal themselves, what is their agenda? Some might say, 'Look, if they were going to do harm to us, wouldn't they have done it by now?' I don't know. If we're so insignificant, it doesn't matter, it could be irrelevant. But then, why are they here? Now you may think, 'Okay, Doctor Phil's finally gone over the high side. He's gone down nutball highway.' That's not what I'm telling you. "I'm saying the government knows more than they're telling us. My question is: Is it unsafe for the general population to know all of this? Would it create such anxiety and panic that it's more than people can handle? Because it would rewrite almost every value, every paradigm that we know. Because we think we're at the top of the food chain. What if, we're not? What does that mean? And how would you feel about that? "You really need to ask yourself those questions because I think we're getting ready, maybe not to meet someone from another galaxy, but I think we're getting ready to find out there are things that we can't explain, but do have in our possession. Evidence that we can explain with concepts we understand. The question is: How do you feel about it? Because that's the real story." (He briefly mentions Grusch in the full, video.)

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👽 Is The UFO Phenomenon "Attacking" Us and We Just Don't Realize It? 👽 "We're not seeing any aggression right now [from the UFO Phenomenon." ~Mellon "They might have been attacking us for centuries already...through the manipulation of consciousness." ~Levenda (IMO, this is a very limited view of things from Mellon. I'll include more from Levenda after this short transcript.) Christopher K. Mellon: "The research that I've seen - it was quite a while ago, but - makes the logical point that a great deal of the reaction [and] impact will depend on the context. So, let's assume for a moment that things continue as they have been, which is, no aggression, no hostility, surveillance, whatever. A presence, an elusive presence. "That will be received, likely fairly, with less concern and disruption, obviously, than if it was a, you know, 'Independence-Day' scenario. I mean, we don't anticipate...we're not seeing any aggression right now. We have concerns about the seeming interest in DOD facilities, but we're not seeing any kind of hostility. This has been going on for a long, long time. Chances are it'll probably continue more or less as it has, which isn't disrupting or Earth-threatening." (All of that, apparent, interest in our DOD facilities and surveillance, may be misdirection from what the phenomenon is actually doing here. That MUST be considered.) Leslie Kean: "Yeah, that's a really good point. And I think it also depends on what is actually said when the announcement is made, and also what kind of proof is presented. Because they're gonna have to offer something to really prove that this is not just...that this is the real deal." ~~~ (IMO, this is the way we SHOULD look at the phenomenon, and this essay is a big reason why I value Peter Levenda's opinion so highly. I can't recommend it enough and I'll link to the entire thing in the replies.) Levenda: "If people insist on projecting their ideas about humans and human incentives onto the 'alien' and claiming (a) that the 'alien' has no designs on us and only comes in peace, or (b) that since the 'alien' has not attacked us so far even though they could have, easily, then their intentions must be peaceful … etc etc; these are all points of view that are inconsistent with what we do know. By definition, the 'alien' should not be considered 'human' in the sense we understand that term. We have no idea what environment gave rise to the 'alien', what its values are, how it views us. We don’t know what is important to them, and we don’t know what or how they think about what is important to us. We keep projecting our (21st century North American) ideas, concepts, and conceits onto a Phenomenon about which we know virtually nothing. Ironically, the less we know about It the easier that projection becomes. We accept that their technology is somehow superior to ours, without being able to define 'superior' in that context, instead of just 'other'. Some of us assume that if the 'alien' has superior technology then it must be spiritually or morally superior as well. When has that ever been the case on this planet in all of our recorded history? Technologically advanced civilizations routinely invade, colonize, and brutalize less advanced ones. Thus, we have no expectation – based purely on our own experience as human beings of planet Earth – that another race would be benign. In fact, we would have to anticipate the worst. "A better approach might be to ascertain whether the 'alien' is hostile rather than 'evil': hostile to all humans, hostile to some humans, hostile to other life forms on our planet, etc. There are those who insist that this cannot be the case, that if they are hostile they would have wiped us out already. We have already addressed that argument above, but briefly: we can’t assume that they would act the way we have acted in our history. Their life expectancy, timelines and schedules might be extremely long compared to ours. Or extremely short. We simply don’t know and should not assume anything. "Hostility implies intent: that they 'intend' to destroy us somehow. They have not done so, the argument goes, so they must not be hostile. The problem with this argument is that we are assuming they would manifest their hostility by blowing something up, or attacking us the way we attack and invade our enemies. They might have been attacking us for centuries already, in ways that make sense to them and which further an agenda we can’t begin to imagine or understand. "What if they are attacking us through the manipulation of consciousness? That sounds far-fetched, but we have been doing that ourselves for a long time. It’s called psychological warfare, and includes propaganda, disinformation, misinformation, etc. including – again ironically – using the UFO Phenomenon as a means of distracting us from our own secret weapons systems. "Many contactees report communication with the 'alien' by means of telepathy. That automatically presents us with the possibility that human consciousness may be vulnerable to direct outside interference or manipulation by the 'alien.' "We are simply not trying hard enough to understand the 'alien'. "We must proceed on the assumption that the Phenomenon is dangerous to us (perhaps in ways we can’t imagine, and I can’t stress that enough) and proceed slowly and carefully."

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"I'm talking about [UFOs] because I want to deal with the psychological aspect, so people don't freak out about this stuff." ~Dr. Phil today on Greta Van Susteren Dr. Phil, Calming the Public and Mocking Abductees (If you think Dr. Phil might have been tasked by the White House to psychologically prepare Americans for what COULD be coming? You might be right. 🙂 This is from today, and most of it (5.5 minutes) was good. Except his downplaying and mocking of experiencers and abductees, which is the last clip of the four I included.) ~ Dr. Phil: "One of the things that is important is, that we do inform the American people about this stuff because a lack of information creates anxiety. It creates people saying, 'What's going on and why are they hiding this information from us?' Which they've been doing for almost 80 years now. "I'm talking about it because I want to deal with the psychological aspect, so people don't freak out about this stuff, and they understand that there's there's going to be a way to deal with this. Everybody, stay calm. We'll get the information." (Glad he's addressing the freak-out potential and not blowing it off like so many others are trying to do. How people react will depend on what is said, what is shown (evidence) and what the truth turns out to be. That assumes somebody, somewhere knows the truth, or some aspect of it.) Dr. Phil: "This is something that could reorder the entire Universe, human exceptionalism. This impacts people's religious values and belief systems, everything, and we are entitled to know this, and certainly not be misdirected about it." (Yes, yes, yes. And yes!) Dr. Phil: "There are things for which we have no technology to explain what we are seeing on gun cameras from..." (Well, we haven't seen clear examples of that yet on video. Has he been shown better videos? Now, the bad. ⬇️ ) Dr. Phil: "Look, what they've allowed to be shown are things where you've got some guy that's too drunk to fish, showing up with a gimme cap on, and he's saying, 'I was abducted and anally probed.' We've seen all of those year-after-year." (When more of the truth comes out, and people feel more comfortable sharing what they've experienced, you will hear more stories like that from sober people who are from ALL walks of life. In fact, that's already happened. And if it appears that this other intelligence may have been involved with taking eggs and sperm from us, and engaging in some form of breeding, genetic manipulation or farming, we need to take that possibility seriously, not mock the idea, and try to figure out what the hell has been going on. Is the alien/human hybrid hypothesis true?)

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