“Alpha fs vs beta bux”

Everyone's heard the "women mature with age" argument already. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now

@grok do women mature with age

Yes, individuals of both sexes mature with age via life experience and brain development (prefrontal cortex into the mid-20s). On average, women reach markers of emotional regulation and social maturity earlier than men in adolescence and early adulthood per neuroimaging studies, though gaps narrow later and variation between people is far larger than group averages. Specific "peak at 32" claims are mostly survey-based, not hard science.

@RSPY_critical @Hypeforce1 That is a lie that older men say to make young women fall for them

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If that were true women wouldnt be divorcing those same men at a 75% clip to go back to fucking alphas. If women actually matured the 40 year olds would behave different from the 20s. They do not. Its only when the clock is ticking they suddenly become "mature". Then 2 kids come, she secures the betas money without needing him and she goes right back to whoreland.

I behave differently from my 20s.

@ryanh71879 Exception does not equal the Rule.

@ryanh71879 I have no reason to think I’m exceptional and every reason to think this is normal.

@sjuste1987 @ryanh71879 lol this is Relativist or subjectivist fallacy

@sjuste1987 @ryanh71879 @grok what is this hoe talking about

RSPY_critical The commenter calls your "I changed so it's normal/not exceptional" reply a relativist/subjectivist fallacy. They're saying you can't define population norms from one person's (even sincere) experience — exceptions don't prove the rule, and personal anecdote isn't objective data. Thread context: dual mating strategy ("alpha fux beta bux"). Women initiate ~69% of divorces per studies. Evolutionary psych research shows some evidence for context/fertility-linked preference shifts (short-term genetic cues vs long-term resources), but huge individual variation exists and averages aren't destiny.

@DublingreenB @sjuste1987 @ryanh71879 @grok explain that I only need one case “one woman changed” to disapprove “no women ever change” For the love of God explain the concept of counterexample

You’re missing the point though, it’s not about blaming women. So reframing it doesn’t change anything, call it growing up, or whatever you like. It’s not about judging it, but being aware of the fact itself. It’s a little funny: - men state fact to be aware of - woman argues against how it makes her feel

Feelings aren’t facts but it’s a fact that people have feelings. The facts about the feelings we have are inaccessible to each other unless we say what those feelings are. Does that make sense?

@MacroAnarchy Sure - but the discussion was about facts, not feelings, and no matter how much you feel the facts, it doesn’t change them. By feeling facts, all you’re doing is changing the topic and making excuses.

I was translating intention and arguably intention involves desire, which arguably is a feeling. I don’t remember feeling emotional when I made this video- not beyond the frustration I felt for *your* sakes- not for my own. But the intention I was revealing was just that changes as people get older and more serious.

@MacroAnarchy You’re posed that the rationalization of immoral, selfish, narcissistic behavior is somehow different than acknowledging the behavior isn’t those things. Interesting.

@MacroAnarchy You need to listen to this, you’re projecting all over everyone’s face.

So young wmn will inevitably sleep around, make bad decisions and sht out broken homes with fk boys? Poor girl doesn't even realize that she just made the case for arranged marriages, chastity belts & societal restrictions to their sexual freedom.😭

What makes you think I wasn’t trying to make that case. Thanks for calling me a girl. I really needed that after these comments.

Ah my apologies then. The video kind of comes off as someone thats excusing this behavior. But yeah, the part they didnt see coming was for the "beta bucks" guy to say no. Their dual mating strategy massively backfires at that point. They become bitter and full of emotional insecurity from their experiences with the players & bad boys. This is why so many have such skewed percetions of men.

I’m not excusing it. I’m downgrading it from diabolical to normal young person inexperience

We're listening to a woman trying to decipher male hierarchy that they don't understand. Lmao. Wtf.

I love you but not romantically. Only like a brother in Christ.

Coping mechanism working hard. Of course is right. No women is attracted to non attractive men. Women select who to have children; they want his genetics. Chad doesn’t have money so she settled down with Chud who have a great work, money and wealth.

@grok do women ever like physically unattractive men?

Yes, women like and form relationships with physically unattractive men constantly. Attraction is multifaceted: personality, humor, confidence, emotional connection, shared values, and resources often outweigh looks for long-term pairing. Physical appeal matters more for initial/short-term interest, but "unattractive" is subjective and most couples match roughly in overall desirability. The strict alpha genetics vs. beta provider split is an oversimplification—real dating shows far more variation and individual choice than that model claims.

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“That’s not right” Says the oracle. Also. A study was made to what men would succeed and it showed men were able to predict male success far far far better than women. So just give up lady.

I’m not predicting success. I’m telling you to stop feeling sorry for yourself.

I feel sorry for men who have had their child killed in an abortion in their prime. It must be devastating. Men do loose faith when that happens and I dont blame them. This happens to 20% of all men. Either in the form of abortion or parental alienation. Men dont have their prime twice. I dont think you realize you have the powers of god as a woman. A life is a life no matter how you twist and turn it. Check your privileges.

These are good points. Thank you.

Why are you women no reproducing our population? Dont you like us?

Only a woman could agree with someone but think she’s refuting them because she put it in her own words.

I didn’t say I was refuting him. I was explaining what was really going on. We don’t disagree on the facts. We disagree on the exact explanation.

While crass and vulgar, I do agree with their philosophy. I don't think it's a conscious decision though, more like simple biology. You mentioned wanting to experience fun and excitement in your 20s. Well, that's your hormones taking the wheel. 30s hormones seek stability.

Tracks.

You basically said the same thing but in weird long twisted sentences with a bunch of pauses. You could have said the post is 100% right and move on. And it’s been a long time thing, women have always operated this way. Sick fucks!

My main addition was that it’s not an intentional plan- it’s just growing up.

How should the “betabucks” feel? What sane man is happy knowing that he’s dealing with a woman a bunch of guys already had sex with? Should there be honor in being with a woman (a wife) like that? Ultimately that’s his choice to pick, but this relationship will never know peace.

Possible

My point still stands.

Long winded way to say he’s right

Kinda-

You said the same thing, just describing it a different way.

Yah/ the main difference is that I don’t think it’s a diabolical plan- I think it’s just growing up.

As a chill dude who's open to all Women this was hella confusion I still don't get it,, but you kinda wrapped it up w last sentence.. but still all dudes are getting cheated on lol

The last sentence was the main point. Thanks for hanging on for the ride.

No. 25yr old male here. No man I know uses a woman for money in any manner. There is an extreme issue in dating post feminist movement & the destruction of our economies. The sacrifices required to afford a family are huge & the days of respectful virgins are long gone. Bad deal

I didn’t say men use women for money. But… I’m sure it happens…

You said it’s both ways, I’m saying extremely rare the other way. So rare I’ve never seen it. I know more women who are financially better off than the men my age. Statistically young women are buying homes at over double the rate of young men & are the majority of uni grads

@RSPY_critical Sorry dude, that your fathers and grandfathers financially and legally trapped women who were beaten raped and killed by insecure violent men. That reality is not how life is ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE that’s how women drink themselves to death or poison the abusing bastard

@RSPY_critical My father provided for two women, 7 children and worked 80 hours a week to do it while they stayed at home with the kids. My grandma cries every time my grandpa gets brought up because of how much she misses him. Yeah total victims smh

@RSPY_critical My great grandpa went to war & risked his life for their freedom. Feminists are so dumb

This shows why women’s sexual nature should be controlled, what a kick to feminism

I don’t see how that follows but do you,

So essentially women need to be not only guided by men, but there has to even be a system in place to especially save them from their own fallibility

I said that women grow out of bad boys naturally, not to trick “betas”. You said it follows from that that we need a “system” to guide women. But I said that women grow out of bad boys naturally because people grow out of party behavior naturally. If it follows that women must be controlled because they grow out of party behavior, then all people should be controlled because they grow out of party behavior. You failed.

Women’s past matter, while men’s future matters, this is, and always will be

This is cope, your youth is your peak sexual energy and love capacity, maturity in this frame you’re using it just means lacking energy. The truth is the majority of relationships are hallow & pathetic partnerships of some variety

I didn’t say it wasn’t.

They’re aren’t “maturing” is my point I’m saying this from the other side aswell, like getting a Facebook message the day I come back Into town from this girl I used to skullfuck and she’s in a ~3 year relationship

Her parents could afford braces but also didn't waste their money.

It’s true.

Dated a woman that was looking for a step dad to her kid from a loser, her words. She never said anything good about him and literally said she wanted his genetics. I said cool, but when she said, “I don’t want anymore kids”. Nah, you gotta pay for the stepdad package.

Omg ok. Proven wrong! But that’s definitely not every case. Wild though. This must be recent.

It doesn’t matter what you want / intend. It matters what you actually do.

What am I doing that I should not be doing? What am I not doing that I should be doing? What should I do differently?

You are sleeping around and using the beta for money. Exactly as described. Simply be loyal and monogamous. It’s not hard.

I am not sleeping around. I am 43. I don’t have sex. I work for my money or I ask my dad, and he is an alpha.

We are both talking about people in general. You made a video about female behavior and tried to justify the exploitation of men. I responded to it.

I did not try to justify the exploitation of men. I explained that exploitation isn’t the only- or even the simplest explanation of what’s going on when women move from bad boys to good boys.

And my response was that internal mental gymnastics don’t matter when the result is exploitation.

I’m not unsympathetic to that… but you guys are men. You don’t have to be exploited- or at least that’s what people believe. Are you incapable of standing up to women? It’s possible.

Istg why has this lady been showing up in my feed? Feminism really brainwashed a lot of women smfh

We have mutuals ig

The hamster wheel is working overtime in her brain.

Ok…

You’re responding to someone who will never have a wife or children of their own, by his own choice. Not sure if you know what mgtow means bc you’re older, but they’re just as whiny as pussyhat feminists. Best to just leave them alone.

No lies in that post. Wasted vid

Sorry.

"People mature" from what? From wanting to fuck an alpha? They chase thrill? Ok, from whom? The beta? By trying to argue against these claims, you unintentionally proven him correct By chasing the thrill, is getting fucked by alpha and maturing, is giving it to a beta

Sure. Different strokes for different folks.

Opinion discounted she has no idea as a 2/10 woman.

That’s not very nice.

Welcome to the real world

Out of touch foid lost me when she said young women “PROBABLY” HAVE MORE OPTION

I haven’t seen reliable data for out in the wild- but dating app data certainly confirms it.

@dedmegistus Do you see how dumb that statement is?

@RSPY_critical @dedmegistus People get paid off twitter for comments and algorithm shi yk

@warriormortal @RSPY_critical How I get some of that?

@SwitchDracArp @warriormortal Be an out of touch foid!

@SwitchDracArp @warriormortal Idk if it’s possible to lower iq though… maybe I’ll smoke crack and snort fentanyl for a year.

Laws of attraction, breeding and basic human interaction have never changed. Every generation believes they have reinvented the wheel on this subject, but they all fail and become subservient to the true primal nature of human procreation. You can never change human nature.

She's doing the thing.

Nope! She sure isn’t.

For what he said to be true doesn't mean women have to do it consciously. It doesn't mean women are bad or manipulative but it's just the plain degenerate language of what actually happens. The nice way is saying people mature.

So certain types of woman pick the 'bad boy' when she's young for the thrills, ends up with kids and single by 21-25. But when that wall starts to approach and the clock starts to tick , she's left with fewer options/no choice but to get with a decent guy 'beta buck' for safety.

It happens. But it’s not the rule.

Are you the person in the video? Do you realize how confirming and validating this is to the argument? This is unironically better blackpill content than something made by a misogynistic man

Yes. We don’t really disagree on facts/ I’m just saying that it’s not this intentional manipulative strategy. People just grow up.

@HardAxisHimbo They don’t grow up. They age out of the game and “ settle “ at least temporarily for the nice safe dependable guy. Then they get bored , divorce him , take half and the kids and hit the market for more chad excitement

@HardAxisHimbo Sometimes

The wall is undefeated!

Truth hurts?

Which truth?

@TheRendOfDaze That response says everything I needed to know about you😂 you the type of bitch to say shit like “my truth”

@TheRendOfDaze I didn’t say “my truth” I don’t believe in relativism.

Holy f*** somebody grab a pencil this is a straight scholar write this s*** down

Funny story. I used to be a scholar but life got to me.

@psyop_detox In what?

@psyop_detox A scholar in what? I was in philosophy

@psyop_detox It’s a SECRET

The actual alpha male is wanting peace. You are laying with animals. Thats all. If what yoy called beta were taught strength, then they would trounce the soncalled alphas. Actual alphas back in the 40s would now a days be called betas if they had been influenced in yourt by a gynocentric edutsion system. In short? You allowed bullies to run the play ground.

I don’t think anyone is a beta tbh. That’s my point.

@Ben1122us1 Well if some men are alpha, what would you call those who aren’t? You seem to be disagreeing with labels rather than the reality behind it.

@RSPY_critical The difference is actually type A type B and type C personalities.