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An extraordinary claim from Chris Hipkins this morning during his interview on Herald Now: it is impossible for economists to model the key behavioural effect Labour attributes to its Capital Gains Tax — shifting people away from property and into productive investment. Hipkins and Labour routinely champion this shift...

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