And don’t forget about Notion workers! They’re like serverless functions you deploy to notion. Instead of only pushing info to notion from your agents, run notion workers on a schedule to fetch/organize info that your agents can use. Much more efficient for many tasks:

Vinny knows what’s up 🤝

Gotta know Notion.

workers ftw

so well explained this...you have a great way of explaining things. And I gonna research about Notion Workers!

Thanks, Parth!

turns Notion from a passive database into part of the workflow. nice!

Yeah I was looking through the docs trying to find the best way to do this as a custom extension or something and found Workers!

workers are the bit that makes Notion interesting to me. once the database can pull and schedule its own inputs, it stops being a spreadsheet and starts behaving like infrastructure

This (Notion workers in particular) is somewhat confusing layer of the token arcade that Notion has become.

Nothing to do with tokens here though.

Sorry - do they run on Notion “credits”?

Ok yes it does but it’s cheap

Then yes tokens do have something to do with it don’t they? Variable costs matter to businesses large and small and so do the profit incentives of the platforms they subscribe to. So the token arcade critique still stands . The argument that we have some “quarter” games (workers) that are “cheaper” than the $1.50 games - does not negate the fundamental model (profits from token maxing), nor risks for the user of a token arcade approach. They’re profiting on the sub and marking up token use, with no clear transparency beyond “trust us it’s very small”. They are incentivize at all times to keep the users inserting coins. This is antithetical to the lowcode no code SaaS offset of Notion’s founding and core. Keeping pressure on the platforms to not dump all the risk back on users is important. I don’t pay for pay as you go gym equipment, nor do I want to be running the math every time I use anything in Notion. Right now - Notion wants you to use more of it all - all the time, knowing full well they get base subscription plus nickels and dimes and passing token expense to users. And your first response was to claim that tokens had nothing to do with it - presumably because they mask over them calling them “credits” … like credit card companies call them points. Minus points for extended obfuscation. To your point - the nickel and diming arcade model may be here to say - I hope not. If it is, then “workers” is helpful but still confusing to users… who still aren’t adjusted to paying for marked up token fees (“credits”) on top of their subscriptions. I’m totally fine paying $60-$300 a month - to work with a platform provider, not trying to nickel and dime and maximize non-optimal activity. The current structure is incentivized to encourage waste and inefficiency - Notion profits from user slop, waste and inefficient user, and is incentivized to do so. Notion was founded on rescuing us from waste and bloat of SaaS, now the subtle shift in model encourages it. Charge me a premium, but on the same side of the user when it comes to efficiency effectiveness and productivity again.

scheduled ingestion turns notion into a source of fresh inputs. agents get less stale state to reason over, which is what makes the rest of the workflow hold up.