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Andy asked why wouldn't AI agents create their own currency? An AI-generated unit of account all the LLMs agree on? Illia (root.near) (🇺🇦, ⋈), Co-Founder of NEAR Protocol: "They can create tokens. But agents need reputation and reputation needs history. You can't manufacture that." "You still need to pay... show more

The Rollup

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@dragonisnear @ilblackdragon @NEARProtocol Where I can see recording of the full interview?

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@dragonisnear @ilblackdragon @NEARProtocol Thank you

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@NEARProtocol @ilblackdragon AI agents creating their own currency and immediately rugging each other. very human of them

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@ilblackdragon @NEARProtocol reputation needs history you cant fake

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@NEARProtocol @ilblackdragon $NEAR is slowly becoming one of the strongest AI narratives in crypto. • strong ecosystem • real AI focus • growing attention • still underpriced compared to the hype Feels like the market still isn’t fully paying attention. That usually changes fast. @NEARProtocol

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@ilblackdragon @NEARProtocol Living in denial

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@ilblackdragon @NEARProtocol Illia is everywhere! $NEAR

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@ilblackdragon @NEARProtocol Time wins

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