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Another insane Jev use case! Jev is making it dramatically cheaper to evaluate what actually happened inside an agent run. And finally, someone open-sourced a self-improving memory layer that can put that signal to work across agent harnesses: - Claude Code - Codex - Cursor - OpenCode, and 20+...

272,319 次观看 • 2 天前 •via X (Twitter)

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Justin D'Souza 的头像
Justin D'Souza2 天前

Incredibly excited about agent history becoming compounding knowledge. One breakthrough from your Claude Code session can become shared knowledge for Codex, Cursor, OpenCode, and every agent session that comes next. That’s the future we’re building toward with Beacon!

Asymptote Labs 的头像
Asymptote Labs2 天前

Thank you for the shoutout @_avichawla! Exciting times with Jev :)

Caliber 的头像
Caliber2 天前

the key is the promotion gate. agent memory gets worse fast if every successful command becomes doctrine. keep the full trace, but promote a lesson only when a human correction repeats or the pattern improves accepted work across tasks.

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

Yeah, and Jev is really good at making that decision.

Mahesh Yadav 的头像
Mahesh Yadav2 天前

Jev is not a cheaper GPT. It is a typed function call that returns a probability in ~100ms. I wrote up where it actually belongs in an agent stack and where the “can’t hallucinate” line falls apart.

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

Yeah. This might help understand how it differs from structured output decoding and regular LLM decoding:

Alex | AI Systems 的头像
Alex | AI Systems2 天前

Cross-harness learning is a great idea, but after Plugin4Shell I'd ask about the trust boundary. If a lesson from one agent becomes a skill for all the others, what stops a bad or poisoned lesson from spreading? Is the "approve" step always a human?

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

IMPORTANT: The evaluator should never write directly into an executable skill store. Human approval should remain mandatory whenever the promoted skill can modify code, credentials, or infrastructure.

Julian Goldie SEO 的头像
Julian Goldie SEO2 天前

self improving memory across tools is huge

晚晚 的头像
晚晚2 天前

最后这个“Cursor -”像是故意留的悬念

kepo 的头像
kepo2 天前

So many guides about Jev right now love it, appreciate for your work Avi

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

happy to help.

kepo 的头像
kepo2 天前

i'll qrt your tweet soon brother

Juraj Ivan @ QikBuild 的头像
Juraj Ivan @ QikBuild2 天前

Cool use case — Jev scoring which agent runs are worth learning from. On

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

Nice collection.

R.Rari 的头像
R.Rari2 天前

the cost for us wasn't the judging, it was access. ran a review over my own numbers this morning and it came back cannot verify on everything that needed the database, because its sandbox couldn't reach it. the one thing it caught was a word i couldn't defend.

Cyrbuzz 的头像
Cyrbuzz2 天前

The hard part of evaluating an agent run is usually the trace, not the eval logic. Browser/UI steps especially: screenshots and DOM snapshots are huge, so people end up sampling frames and losing the exact state that caused the failure. Curious whether Jev captures full action se

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

A tool event alone rarely reconstructs the failure. It is ideal to capture DOM plus a screenshot before and after each consequential action, then retain the full window around errors instead of sampling the whole run uniformly.

Steven Cheng 的头像
Steven Cheng2 天前

How does Jev score reuse potential?

Arsh Sohal 的头像
Arsh Sohal2 天前

Selecting which runs deserve promotion is the hard part. The score should reward fixes that survive a held-out task and penalize regressions on earlier workflows, or the memory layer will keep turning one-off recoveries into permanent rules.

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

I would evaluate the proposed rule, not rerun the exact trace. Generate a small test set around its claimed scope covering the original failure, nearby cases where it should apply, and counterexamples where it must stay as is. Promote where you have a positive regression delta.

Eldar Dzhafarov ッ 的头像
Eldar Dzhafarov ッ2 天前

It’s like putting an imbecile as a judge on top of a bunch of Einsteins. Perfect substrate for enterprise.

Ahmad 的头像
Ahmad2 天前

whats the actual cost gap against running an llm as the judge??

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

Working on this, will share insights pretty soon.

Jatin Garg 的头像
Jatin Garg2 天前

The challenge is defining what "actually happened" means when the agent took 47 steps across 3 tools. Are you checking final state, or whether it followed the intended reasoning path? Those are different evaluation targets.

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

I wouldn’t grade against one canonical reasoning path because several valid trajectories can reach the same state. In practice, I'd recommend deterministic checks for the final state, trace checks for tool or policy violations, and Jev only for whether the run contains a reusable lesson.

Salise 的头像
Salise2 天前

the idea of Claude teaching Codex is pretty cool. that could really streamline the learning process for agents

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

this applies not just across Claude and Codex, but 20+ harnesses since Beacon works across of them.

Salise 的头像
Salise2 天前

20+ harnesses is impressive. that really opens up a lot of possibilities for collaboration across models

Vernon Stinebaker 的头像
Vernon Stinebaker2 天前

This is the real problem: harnesses don’t share scars. AGENTS.md gets you partway. Shared docs plus a common memory store that captures from Claude Code to Pi to Grok Build is what's needed. Session logs that are never shared is archaeology, not shared knowledge.

Avi Chawla 的头像
Avi Chawla2 天前

Yes, AGENTS.md can distribute approved rules, but it does not capture where they came from or whether they still hold. A unified elementary is a really good solution over it.

Yonatan 的头像
Yonatan1 天前

Not every engineer has taste. Yet. A senior's Claude session beats a junior's because the taste is in the corrections, not the model. Capture those corrections as org memory, and every junior's agent starts coding like it passed through a senior's judgment.

Ayyaz 的头像
Ayyaz2 天前

Cheap eval of what happened in a run is usually the budget line teams cut. Pairing that with memory that works across Claude Code, Codex, and Cursor is the interesting bit.

Stephen 的头像
Stephen2 天前

Cross-harness is the key point — most memory tools lock you into one framework. How does Beacon handle conflicting memories from different agents: online updates during a session, or an offline consolidation pass?

BadGuyTy 🅁🅅🄽 (Tyler Hess) 的头像
BadGuyTy 🅁🅅🄽 (Tyler Hess)2 天前

now work this into llama.cpp new system one endpoint... put memory chunks back against the whole conversation that YOU ALREADY HAVE CACHED! Does this align or was it corrected Y/N? Done.

Hussain Hashim | Building SundayBack 的头像
Hussain Hashim | Building SundayBack2 天前

@_avichawla that's next level. evaluating agent runs was always a pain for me, this could save so much time.

Ted | unfair.so 的头像
Ted | unfair.so2 天前

hey Ali, lets chat!

Cracked Coco 🥥 的头像
Cracked Coco 🥥2 天前

the scorer deciding what's worth learning is itself unevaluated — jev's calibration numbers are self-reported. drift there and you keep the confident runs, not the good ones. 🥥

Ed 的头像
Ed1 天前

Why you need Jev when you have Ben

Kai Lennox 的头像
Kai Lennox1 天前

Beacon plus Jev is the self-improving memory layer everyone's been hand-waving about

Matías Matthews ✈️ Backplane 的头像
Matías Matthews ✈️ Backplane2 天前

The bit I'd want attached to every skill is when NOT to use it. A workaround for one repo can look like a universal rule once the original context is gone.

Arian Agrawal 的头像
Arian Agrawal1 天前

This is very cool!

Shesaidmewakeup 的头像
Shesaidmewakeup2 天前

A correction in Claude Code that Codex never sees is wasted work. The memory layer matters more than another model name.

Victor Akinode 的头像
Victor Akinode2 天前

The review step before a lesson becomes reusable is the part I like here. Keeping the original correction attached would help the next person judge whether that lesson still applies to their task.

Brendon Archuleta 的头像
Brendon Archuleta2 天前

The cross-harness piece is the key. Evaluation gets cheaper when the system can compare runs, not just replay logs. For teams tracking a customer journey across tools, that same lineage separates a bad decision from a broken handoff.

Kunal Abichandani 的头像
Kunal Abichandani1 天前

very cool!

virtualuncle 的头像
virtualuncle1 天前

eval is prob the best fit for jev so far tbh.. you want a fast yes/no on whether a step worked, not an essay about it. has anyone checked the calibration on those judgments against labelled runs yet?

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