Another Turkish historian also denies that the Ottomans were Turks. Historian Halil İnalcık: "The theory that the Ottomans originated from the Kayı tribe, which was part of the Oghuz Turks, is a complete myth. It was put forward for political purposes. I have written about this, but nobody reads it."

Nowhere in the video does he deny that the Ottomans were Turks. The story that Ottomans were descendants of Kayı is not true, he says. Ottomans were not from the Kayı line of Oghuz Turks. Ottomans fabricated this story not in order to prove they were Turks (nobody doubted that because back then, well, there was no social media) but in order to increase their claim to be of noble blood (Kayı is more prestigious than other Oghuz lines)

Dear @jeandpardaillan, could you please explain this?

Saying that the Ottomans did not descend from the Kayı tribe does not mean they were not Turks. There are many Turkish tribes.

İkidir bu orospu evladını Türklüğe saldırırken görüyorum amına kodumun etnik piçi

Saptırmanın alemi yok. "Türk değildi" demiyor Kayı boyuna mensubiyet konusundaki görüşünü ifade ediyor. II. Murad, Cem Sultan gibi hanedan mensupları ise Kayı'ya mensubuz diyor. Cem Sultan Oğuzname'yi özet halinde hazırlatıyor.

Türk değil, demiyor. Kayı boyundan olmayabilir, diyor. İkisi tamamen farklı şeyler.

BIRROOOO I aM sO StUpiD

rahim beyninin damarlarını sikeyim videoyu tam izle adam gibi anla çiçeğini siktiğimin dölü seni

What are these? Are you stupid? 😡 The Ottomans were Turks, but which clan they belonged to is debated.

No. He said he was not descended from Oğuz Khan. He's not saying Ottoman not Turkish. In their power struggles with other Turkic principalities in Anatolia, they claimed to be descended from "Oghuz Khan," but Halil İnalcık says he thinks otherwise. You're completely manipulating.

He did not say that lol

Another christian trying to steal from Turkic culture lol

1. Celal Şengör is not a historian. He is a geology professor. 2. Both of them say that it is not certain that the Ottomans originated from the Kayı tribe. It could have been one of the other Turkic tribes. So the debate is about which Turkic tribe they belonged to.

I think your Turkish is limited. There is no point in the conversation where he says or claims that the Ottomans were not Turkish.

do your research well, idiot

To ensure the submission of other Turkic principalities without a fight the Ottomans claimed (1300+) descent from the revered "Oghuz Khan." However Halil İnalcık, in "his own opinion" states that the Ottomans were descended from another branch of the Turks and did not belong Kayı

Bro, you can’t even speak fluent Turkish, yet you post a Turkish video without understanding the context. He says that the Ottomans may not be from the Kayı tribe, but that doesn’t mean the Ottomans weren’t Turks from the beginning. Do you know that many Turkic tribes existed in Anatolia, for example? Just stfu dude.

I keep seeing your nonsense fabrications. As a native Laz, let me respond to your unfounded claims: the roots of the Ottomans were always and solely Turkic—>though the specific branch of the Oghuz they belonged to may be debated—and additionally while the Caucasus region included Turkic tribes alongside native Caucasian peoples, it was only in later periods that Ottoman sultans took wives from Caucasian and European backgrounds, which eventually influenced the lineage of their descendants.

neyi anlamadın tam olarak? osmanlı'nın soyu kayı boyundan değildir diyor, türk değillerdi demiyor. türklerin boyları var ve kayı boyu bunların içinde en soylu olanlarından diye kabul edilmiş. tarihlerini oraya dayandırmışlar. yani neyi ısrarla anlamıyor olabilirsin?

Probably you don't know what you have listened. I advise you read his books and understand truly what he meant if you are a history fan.

The video doesn't say they aren't Turks. It only says they might not be from the Kayı tribe of the Ottomans. There are 24 Oghuz tribes. In short, they are all Turks. You're misunderstanding. The content of the videos you shared isn't what you think it is.

Önce Türkçeyi doğru anla, sonra yorum yap. Muhtemelen IQ şu ayakkabı numarasından büyük birinin anlayabileceği bir videoyu bile doğru anlamamışsın.

You have a serious comprehension problem

They refute the claim that they were a specific tribe of turks, the Kayı tribe. But they never said they are not turks. What is it with you people? Are you just that stupid or just that bad of an actor?

What were they then. Indians?

Varsayalım Osmanlı Türk değildi. Öyle değil ama hafi öyle olsun. Bu benim Türklüğüme bi zeval getirmez oyna devam. Osmanlı torunu değilim Türk oğluyum sonuçta.

These are agents

Again, it doesn’t say anything about this. Isn’t it misinformation to make up claims and present them as if people actually said them, especially by using respected historians as a front? Or are you doing this on purpose?

İlk defa Kürtçülük yapan bir Azeri görüyorum ve o da konuyu olabildiğince götünden anlamış doğal olarak, sen söver misin lütfen? @terseharf

bak amınoğlu bak

Ottomans were the Anatolians !!

Why are you sharing a video that you don't understand? It is not said that they are not Turks. It is explained whether there is a Turkish tribe called “Kayı”. What is discussed here is not being Turkish, but being “Kayı”.

Ottomans were clearly from a Turkic Oghuz tribe,what isn’t 100% certain is which branch. Early Ottoman chronicles tie them to Kayı, which fits Kayı/Karakeçili presence around Söğüt district. And honestly, which branch changes what, except fueling your Turk-obsessed trolling?

Kayı olmadığını söylüyor. Türk olup olmadıklarını tartışmıyor bile