Anti-white racism is irrational.

Resentment is getting transferred from black people to white people, radicalizing white people, and then that resentment is transferring back to black people. I suspect some of it is foreign influence. This cycle needs to end. And I’m hoping videos like this help.

The reason these conversations always devolve into shouting matches? Most people can’t separate emotion from logic. If you’re tired of division on every racial issue, my Substack is where we think through these topics without the tribalism.

Obviously, all racism is irrational. In this particular clip, I’m talking about anti-white racism, which I think is disproportionately under-discussed. And hurts everyone, because it perpetuates the pendulum swing of resentment between groups.

Correction: The word ‘Slav’ originally comes from ‘slovo’ meaning ‘word’ or ‘those who speak [our language].’ The association with slavery came later because Slavic peoples were so frequently enslaved by various empires (Byzantine, Ottoman, etc.) that ‘Slav’ became synonymous with ‘slave’ in medieval Latin. I do multiple rounds of fact checks on my solo videos, but I can’t do that when freestyling on a podcast, so sometimes I overlook nuances like this. Thanks for understanding.

The full conversation was hosted by @hertake_podcast and you can watch it here. I’ve done a lot of podcasts and this was one of my favorites. These ladies are sharp.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Disclaimer: This man speaks for himself and has no affiliation with Blk america.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Can you divert all this energy defending white folks and defend black folks? This is odd.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You’re a retard. Stop trying to use race as a soapbox to stand on to make money. Get a real job, and go back to your homeland.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels There are some closeted racists creating narratives in conservative circles. its not good either.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Yes.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Bro you are a third world immigrant go home

You’re one of my favorite people. Part of the emotionalism may have been built up from her visit to the Smithsonian if she talked about that too. She was pretty upset. I admire your stealth calmness beyond the shrieking of their voices. I’m sure they’re sweet people but I have sensitive ears. I never thought I would like someone who went to Harvard. 😂 Stay awesome Kaizen. I like the software analogy. 🎯

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Thank you Hope! Yes she did mention the Smithsonian too

@hopeXmeta @hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels "You're one of my favorite people" translates to "you're one of the good blacks for agreeing with us whites". And I can prove it. Say something they disagree with and they'll turn on you in a heartbeat.

Actually if you weren’t so biased and angry at the world thinking you know everything, you could look back through times where I have mentioned I didn’t fully agree with Kaizen and I’ve joked about him going to Harvard. Take your white hate somewhere else lazy. Think before you speak.

@thatsKAIZEN @hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You're not important enough to research, I said "they" for a reason. No one was speaking about you specifically. What you said is something mamy white people say when black people say something they agree with. I merely used your comment as an example.

@thatsKAIZEN @hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You have issues and should get therapy. Hate is a disease in your heart and it will destroy you. Not me.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You just wanna get praised by the white people so bad 😂

1) slavery is a *human evil*, not one dependent on your skin color 2) slavery has been practiced and rationalized justified by almost every culture in history, and only ended by bloodshed and providence 3) perpetuating racial hate now is the most counterproductive and illogical thing Per Sowell : “Slavery was not only universal, it was uncontroversial for most of human history. The moral outrage against it was a late development, confined almost entirely to Western societies, starting with the Quakers and other religious groups in the 18th century.”

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels The difference is all other slaves were able to seek refuge in other countries. American slaves had no refuge. And also treated almost worse after slavery

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Democrats are now making slaves out of illegals. That isn’t discussed nearly enough.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels This is a very interesting conversation. You’re doing great buddy!

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Thanks T.J

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Anti-white racism is by far the most common kind of racism in America.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels What's actually happening is reverse racism where people like you profit off of nazism by co-opting it. You make your bucks by using your dark skin to create a permission structure even though you're not descended from slaves at all. Likely from an affluent immigrant family. Smh.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Your not black tether 🗣🖕🏾🗑

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You earned a sincere follow with this. I'm very impressed with your ability to break this down, outstanding job.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Appreciate your always thoughtful perspective Kaizen

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Interesting discussions- Responsibility is the New Freedom - there is only 1 Human Race

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels This breakdown is cute, but after this breakdown can you breakdown the reperations so the liberal and conservative wyts can cosign it. While you're breaking this down so wyt liberals can cream over it, checks are being handed to 🇮🇱 for a an event that didn't happen in America

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels One word of advice brother? Never ever come to South Africa, the majority of people here will hate you with a vengeance...

being folded into “whiteness” meant easier entry to high-return assets (owner-occupied housing in prized zip codes), better school districts, friendlier labor and credit markets, stronger political voice, and more inheritances. Stop pandering. That word salad soft talk won’t cut it

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Thank you ❤️

This is a dumb take respectfully. This sounds like a detached first generation immigrant talk. from 1970–2025, groups that were legally/socially classified as white (including most Armenians and Slavic Europeans) plugged into advantages that the U.S. racial order already funneled to “whiteness.” Armenians and most Slavic Europeans were legally deemed “white” by U.S. courts (e.g., In re Halladjian (1909); U.S. v. Cartozian (1925)), which mattered later when federal stats and programs treated them as white; until 2024, even MENA groups were officially tabulated as white in federal data.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You're either a good person or a piece of shyt...Race unimportant.💯

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Only black person elon acknowledges 😂

I’ve said it 100 times Native Americans enslaved Native Americans They also committed genocide on each other whites did the same thing to each other black folks did the same thing to each other South Americans did the same thing to each other. Asians did the same thing to each other slavery is still alive and well in Asia and the Middle East as we speak.. humans are better now and less barbaric, but that was just reality a couple hundred years ago in the span of time not that long ago

The Slavs are the largest ethnic and linguistic group in Europe, primarily inhabiting eastern, central, and southeastern regions, with some extending into northern Asia. They are defined by their shared Slavic languages, which form a branch of the Indo-European language family. The term "Slavic" encompasses both the people and their languages, cultures, and histories. The ethnonym "Slav" derives from the Proto-Slavic word Slověninъ, meaning "people who speak (the same language)" or "those who understand one another," rooted in slovo ("word"). This contrasts with terms like němьcь ("mute" or "silent"), used for non-Slavic speakers such as Germans. The origins of the Slavs remain a topic of scholarly debate due to limited early records, but archaeological, linguistic, and historical evidence points to their emergence in eastern Europe.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels As usual a bunch of ignorant immigrants babbling their biased views.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels You’re the richest, most privileged man who’s ever lived. I’m not buying that you are a victim .

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels There’s some ok points being made until you get to “White people are inherently morally inferior” which is a wild take to combat racism with. What’s the data backing that up? You wouldn’t catch me saying the opposite. Bc it’s racist.

@hertake_podcast @JillianMichaels Well said and explained as usual @thatsKaizen. Thank you and I sincerely hope that a lot of people will see this.