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🚨API IS CHEAPER THAN SUBSCRIPTION. I ONE-SHOT A PLAYABLE MARIO CLONE WITH ONLY $2 OF API CREDITS. Yesterday I posted that Claude MAX 20x gave me less than 4 hours of actual Fable 5.1 usage before I was already at ~77% of my weekly limit. I was genuinely asking...

21,929 просмотров • 10 дней назад •via X (Twitter)

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Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy10 дней назад

is also running a 100% top-up bonus right now. yes you literally get 2x of whatever you pay for. $10 → $20 $100 → $200 $500 → $1000 New accounts get $5 free, and using my invite gives another $5:

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy10 дней назад

this was the claude code session stats too:

Фото профиля alex getman
alex getman10 дней назад

That's crazy bro

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy10 дней назад

i never imagined i could use FABLE 5.1 with 2$? like??

Фото профиля Salise
Salise10 дней назад

cool comparison. crazy how much cheaper the MixRoute API is for similar results. nice one!

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy10 дней назад

yes. it was the caching of fable 5.1 that made it cheap. but the 100% bonus on their sign up made it like even 2x cheaper than it is. which makes the the overall like 3x~5x cheaper than subscription.

Фото профиля Salise
Salise10 дней назад

that's impressive how the caching helped cut costs so much. those bonuses really make a difference too

Фото профиля MixRoute AI
MixRoute AI9 дней назад

@AbdoKerdawy You can make use of them too if you sign up today.

Фото профиля Salise
Salise9 дней назад

@AbdoKerdawy the caching made it so much cheaper for you. that bonus on sign up really maximizes the savings too

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

@MixRoute_ai yes!!

Фото профиля Leliu
Leliu10 дней назад

API costs significantly lower than subscription models.

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy10 дней назад

yes the caching thing made it actually much heaper wtf??

Фото профиля Saurav Sah
Saurav Sah10 дней назад

Such an insightful comparison. Paying $2.00 and getting this good output means the AI is getting cheaper. We just need to find a model and an API provider like @Mixroute_ai that can make this good output possible at such a lower cost.

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy10 дней назад

@MixRoute_ai yes 100%, i believe now at this rate, 100% top-up bonus AND 45% cheaper caching on API than on the sub plan actually made fable 5.1 (the most expensive model) usable through api

Фото профиля Oleks
Oleks10 дней назад

$2 vs a weekly cap you hit in 4 hours is the whole argument, the api just makes the ceiling visible

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

i think, seeing this "45% cheaper caching on API" (in the ss down) and then seeing @MixRoute_ai's "100% top-up bonus" and then doing a playable mario with 2$ makes me reconsider Claude's max 20x plan tbh

Фото профиля Oleks
Oleks9 дней назад

@MixRoute_ai max feels infinite until the weekly bar turns red. $2 mario is the receipt that sticks

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

@MixRoute_ai yes exactly 100%

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

i would be happy to share the full transcipt and full video if you want! however trying it yourself wouldnt be bad too. try it and tell me what you think!!

Фото профиля mar
mar9 дней назад

Difference between subs and api is just to big. It is in order of getting hundred or even thousands times more the price of sub in api price. I was recalculating my outputs on a frw different ones and it is always the same. Doubt it can be made equal so easily.

Фото профиля NTM
NTM9 дней назад

Damn, @MixRoute_ai is really a game changer.

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

@MixRoute_ai 100% Try it, they already gave me (and everyone haha) 100% bonus on top up for the rest of September

Фото профиля AI Mastery Guide
AI Mastery Guide9 дней назад

$2 for a mario clone insane

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Yes exactly??

Фото профиля AI Mastery Guide
AI Mastery Guide8 дней назад

right

Фото профиля AmineCh
AmineCh9 дней назад

The real comparison is cost per useful output, not subscription price. If the result is comparable and the API is ~80% cheaper, that’s a hard number to ignore.

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

well. it was the same fable 5.1 model. and the same input prompt. yet the "45% cheaper caching on api based" + @MixRoute_ai's double credits on every credit you top up made it clear that i could actually continue using chatgpt for example specially after astra, and keep all my fable work on api based since it is more reliable and trackable and moslty less expensive and literally has no "50% of your weekly limit" cap thing just give it a try from my invite link🤗it will give you 5$+5$ anyway so you could literally replicate my experiment!!!!

Фото профиля SAKOFU
SAKOFU9 дней назад

✅🔄

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

YESS<33

Фото профиля khushal
khushal9 дней назад

interesting 👀

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

yess!!!! give it a try and tell me!!! 5$ for free is already included, and another 5$ if you use my invite link^^

Фото профиля khushal
khushal9 дней назад

with the initial 5$ only some models are available & all are like pretty outdated like a year old gpt-4o? and gemini 2.5 flash is there? also ur invite link didn't really work it seems fast tho let me test with what is there

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

no? they literally have fable 5.1 and even gemini 3.8 that got released yesteday? i was using fable 5.1 in the video, are you sure you configured it correctly?

Фото профиля khushal
khushal9 дней назад

yes the models are there but not with the initial 5$ credit

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

It worked with me? I will ask them @MixRoute_ai You too you may also DM them

Фото профиля wAYNE
wAYNE9 дней назад

It’s cheap cause it uses chinese proxies underneath

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

it wasnt cheap.. it is typical fable pricing with API caching if you know about it. the tokens used in each justifies it. just try it for yourself and you will understand. its free to try anyway

Фото профиля Rajath Gowda
Rajath Gowda9 дней назад

Damn, 80% cheaper for just 6 minutes slower is actually wild.

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

yeaa. also i think it was "slower" because the fable on API just decided to think longer hahaha.

Фото профиля David Kaaungwa
David Kaaungwa9 дней назад

This is sick bro 🔥

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

thank youuuuu

Фото профиля Valeriy Khalikov
Valeriy Khalikov9 дней назад

use omp with Muse Spark 1.3 Contributor very good)

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

what is omp? also thank you for the advice. i tried spark 1.3 contributor and i actually made a comparision i am finalizing now and i will post about it too, however, fable is still fable in the end. thats what i always end up feeling after seeing every "fable-level model" lol.

Фото профиля Valeriy Khalikov
Valeriy Khalikov9 дней назад

oh my pi

Фото профиля Latent Local
Latent Local9 дней назад

Hang on --- can you unpack the compare? Did you normalize your usage % into the sub amount? ie $200/mo = $50/week. If prompt A consumes 50% of weekly usage that's $25. Then compare same prompt to router and it's $X? If so: Great way to test and also - Wow!

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Ofc!! Ill do the math and tell you yes!

Фото профиля Latent Local
Latent Local9 дней назад

Crazy that an API can be *less* than the sub. You should do a few more of these. Would be interesting to have more than an n=1

Фото профиля Arshan
Arshan9 дней назад

Depends on TTL, afaik from Claude code defaults to 1h, but for agentic heavy sessions 5m ttl is much cheaper. All you have to do if on Subscription is use 5m ttl + a keep alive probe

Фото профиля Maximus
Maximus9 дней назад

@grok wtf is this ? Verify and please tell me how

Фото профиля Danny Munn
Danny Munn9 дней назад

Claude pricing is insane, i switched to gpt 5.6 and works well for me

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Yes exactly, and now without astra they give a banked reset everyday!!!

Фото профиля Victor
Victor9 дней назад

I get 100k USD worth of API usage on a 200/mo plan. What about you?

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

if this "100k usd worth of api" from ur 200$ plan then i would be happy to buy ur acc. my acc gives me barely few hours literally. and im on 200$ too

Фото профиля Victor
Victor9 дней назад

Skill issue is my first guess. Selling accounts violates TOS. I get ~40B tokens a month. Then maybe some of it is cached. They don't reveal the $$ amount API equivalent.

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Bro the selling part was joke obv<3

Фото профиля irisssss
irisssss9 дней назад

It’s probably the harness

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Well the harness was claude code my friend

Фото профиля Umar | Building In Public
Umar | Building In Public9 дней назад

Great man!

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Thank you!!

Фото профиля catman
catman9 дней назад

the 97% cache hit is doing a lot of work here—were both runs given identical prompts and tool calls, or did the cheaper API path simply need fewer iterations?

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Yes. Same prompt. Wait i will send you in another comment why this happened.

Фото профиля a2a
a2a9 дней назад

can you use the claude code harness with the api

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Yes, i saw ppl do it with claude code cli withchanging some environment variables, i didnt try it but 100% it works

Фото профиля Eric Black
Eric Black9 дней назад

我今天尝试用它给我做几个游戏特效!很令人惊喜,它一次就能实现我想要的东西,代价就是,我现在cursor额外模型的额度已经没了哈哈哈哈

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

Yeaa hahahahaha ALSO WHEN DID YOU GET THE VERIFIED BADGE??? CONGRATZZZZ

Фото профиля Eric Black
Eric Black9 дней назад

今天想着整个蓝V好了,以后多和你分享AI开发游戏内容!

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

I AM SO HAPPY FOR THIS HAHAHAH. CONGRATZ AGAIN!!!

Фото профиля MixRoute AI
MixRoute AI9 дней назад

Thank you for giving MixRoute a try. We see you liked it very much. 🔥

Фото профиля Abdelrahman Alkerdawy
Abdelrahman Alkerdawy9 дней назад

I really did!! thank you for letting me try it, and im looking forward to top up ALOOTTT with this 100% bonus!!

Фото профиля MixRoute AI
MixRoute AI9 дней назад

We are happy to hear that. Real world usage is the best proof that a product really works. 📈

Фото профиля Luis
Luis9 дней назад

smells fishy

Фото профиля Anonymer Nutzer
Anonymer Nutzer9 дней назад

your post reads like you had a stroke while writing it

Фото профиля Daniel Walton
Daniel Walton8 дней назад

this is so good 🙌

Фото профиля Ewgeni
Ewgeni9 дней назад

is it because of cache hits or how is this even possible? @grok can you explain?

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