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ARC-AGI-3 is built different, it has dumbfounded almost all regular attempts so far because it's so much harder than anything that came before. It has no rules, it's agentic and has no explicit goals, they need to be discovered. Tufa Labs won the first milestone of ARC Prize >...

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Machine Learning Street Talk3 месяцев назад

This is their blog post introducing the Duck harness!

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The Mint3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize Congrats! Looking at the github repo of the harness, I noticed that it includes a lot of human provided hints about the games (see the promts here: Considering this "AGI" contest, I wonder if this is ok or should it ideally figure those out by itself.

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Jerome Sieber3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize Great work team! 🔥

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dlo3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize proud of our work!

Фото профиля Ruan de Kock
Ruan de Kock3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize Amazing @DriesSmit1 🔥🔥

Фото профиля Claude Formanek
Claude Formanek3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize Amazing work Dries 👏 🇿🇦

Фото профиля Ulrich A. Mbou Sob
Ulrich A. Mbou Sob3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize Awesome work @DriesSmit1

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Mert · AI Architect3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize the harness is doing the heavy lifting here. a static rubric on ARC-AGI-3 would optimize for the rubric while the abstraction gap stays open. the grading function has to evolve with the task.

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Wesxdz3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize depression latent space lmao

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Calathea3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize really enjoyed this sharing! made a simple infographic about the harness

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AI Mastery Guide3 месяцев назад

@tufalabs @arcprize No explicit goals to discover on your own is what makes ARC-AGI-3 sound so much harder than typical benchmarks.

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Schmidhuber: "Well, large language models are far from AGI. LLMs large language models such as ChatGPT. They are just a clever way of indexing the world's existing human generated knowledge, such that it can easily be addressed through in a way that humans are familiar with, which is natural language. That's good enough to facilitate many desktop jobs, for example, writing summaries of existing documents in a particular style, or creating illustrations or an article. And and so on. However true AGI goes far beyond that. It is much harder, for example, to replace craftsmen such as plumbers or electricians, because the real world, the physical world, is much more challenging than the world behind the screen. At the moment, the only Al that works well is behind the screen, and it's good for desktop to desktop workers. But but not really for for people working in the physical world."
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Schmidhuber: "Well, large language models are far from AGI. LLMs large language models such as ChatGPT. They are just a clever way of indexing the world's existing human generated knowledge, such that it can easily be addressed through in a way that humans are familiar with, which is natural language. That's good enough to facilitate many desktop jobs, for example, writing summaries of existing documents in a particular style, or creating illustrations or an article. And and so on. However true AGI goes far beyond that. It is much harder, for example, to replace craftsmen such as plumbers or electricians, because the real world, the physical world, is much more challenging than the world behind the screen. At the moment, the only Al that works well is behind the screen, and it's good for desktop to desktop workers. But but not really for for people working in the physical world."

Goran Majić

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🚨 DONALD TRUMP REVEALS IRAN MUST SAY 'WE GIVE UP' AND IT'S OVER "Now they have to CRY UNCLE! That's all they have to do just say 'we give up. We give up.' But their economy is really in trouble. It's a dead economy." "The blockade is GENIUS, OK? The blockade has been a hundred percent foolproof!" "It shows how good our Navy is. I can tell you that nobody's gonna play games." "We have the greatest military in the world and I built much of it during my first term and we've been building it since and the greatest anywhere in the world, nobody even close and and you see that everything whether it's Venezuela which and they have a good military in Venezuela, but it was over in one day." "It was actually over in about 48 minutes. Iran the same thing." "Militarily we've wiped them out. They have no military left it there. It's all the Navy's at the bottom of the sea." "The Air Force is never gonna fly again. We've got an amazing military." Rapid Response 47
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🚨 DONALD TRUMP REVEALS IRAN MUST SAY 'WE GIVE UP' AND IT'S OVER "Now they have to CRY UNCLE! That's all they have to do just say 'we give up. We give up.' But their economy is really in trouble. It's a dead economy." "The blockade is GENIUS, OK? The blockade has been a hundred percent foolproof!" "It shows how good our Navy is. I can tell you that nobody's gonna play games." "We have the greatest military in the world and I built much of it during my first term and we've been building it since and the greatest anywhere in the world, nobody even close and and you see that everything whether it's Venezuela which and they have a good military in Venezuela, but it was over in one day." "It was actually over in about 48 minutes. Iran the same thing." "Militarily we've wiped them out. They have no military left it there. It's all the Navy's at the bottom of the sea." "The Air Force is never gonna fly again. We've got an amazing military." Rapid Response 47

Eric Daugherty

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The Devastating Affects Of The Idaho Farmland Water Shutoff 🚨 UPDATE: “I've talked to the Governor, and the Governor's position is he can't do anything about this” “The, the Department of Water Resources, in the governor's office has sent out the order that they gotta close their wells. That is really a tough deal because these farmers have already planted, the timing on this is horrible. It costs $2,000 an acre to plant potatoes or more, dollars 2,000 to 3,000. Um, and now they have to shut down the wells and give up that investment. Their land is mortgaged, the potato crops are mortgaged, everything's financed, they will basically lose their farms if they turn their water off. We're having one of the best water years that we've had in the last decade. There's more water than they know what to do with. In this kind of a year, they're deciding that they're going to close down 500,000 acres because of because of the new formula that have been introduced on the prerogative, I guess, of the Department of of Water Resources. None of it makes any sense. So they would say they're following through with this agreement that they had put in place a few years ago, and the farmers should have known. I've talked to the governor, and the governor's position is he can't do anything about this because it's mentioned in the constitution and the supreme court has weighed in, but honestly, when I talk to the attorneys they're saying that's that's not a truthful version of what the facts are. The governor's office has a whole lot of prerogative, the Department of Water Resources has the prerogative on how to interpret these laws. By the way, the law does give priority to the folks that have senior water rights, so that's parcelled true. But the governor, I'm gonna plead that the governor exercised leadership here and that the legislature exercise some leadership and put, build some framework. What we need to have them do is build some framework around these agreements and around the laws so that, um, we don't lose all of our agriculture in this area and that appears to be the plan.”
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The Devastating Affects Of The Idaho Farmland Water Shutoff 🚨 UPDATE: “I've talked to the Governor, and the Governor's position is he can't do anything about this” “The, the Department of Water Resources, in the governor's office has sent out the order that they gotta close their wells. That is really a tough deal because these farmers have already planted, the timing on this is horrible. It costs $2,000 an acre to plant potatoes or more, dollars 2,000 to 3,000. Um, and now they have to shut down the wells and give up that investment. Their land is mortgaged, the potato crops are mortgaged, everything's financed, they will basically lose their farms if they turn their water off. We're having one of the best water years that we've had in the last decade. There's more water than they know what to do with. In this kind of a year, they're deciding that they're going to close down 500,000 acres because of because of the new formula that have been introduced on the prerogative, I guess, of the Department of of Water Resources. None of it makes any sense. So they would say they're following through with this agreement that they had put in place a few years ago, and the farmers should have known. I've talked to the governor, and the governor's position is he can't do anything about this because it's mentioned in the constitution and the supreme court has weighed in, but honestly, when I talk to the attorneys they're saying that's that's not a truthful version of what the facts are. The governor's office has a whole lot of prerogative, the Department of Water Resources has the prerogative on how to interpret these laws. By the way, the law does give priority to the folks that have senior water rights, so that's parcelled true. But the governor, I'm gonna plead that the governor exercised leadership here and that the legislature exercise some leadership and put, build some framework. What we need to have them do is build some framework around these agreements and around the laws so that, um, we don't lose all of our agriculture in this area and that appears to be the plan.”

Wall Street Apes

685,251 просмотров • 2 лет назад

Asmongold says Democrats have zero defense against the far left because their entire party is built on emotional blackmail "Democrats have literally no defense against people like this because they've built their entire party and all of their ideology around virtue signaling. It's completely built around virtue signaling, emotional messaging, and other forms of emotional guilt tripping and emotional blackmail." "So the moment the DSA goes even farther with the emotional blackmail, the moment they go even farther with the guilt tripping, Democrats have no choice but to acquiesce and enable them. Because that's the only value they have."
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Asmongold says Democrats have zero defense against the far left because their entire party is built on emotional blackmail "Democrats have literally no defense against people like this because they've built their entire party and all of their ideology around virtue signaling. It's completely built around virtue signaling, emotional messaging, and other forms of emotional guilt tripping and emotional blackmail." "So the moment the DSA goes even farther with the emotional blackmail, the moment they go even farther with the guilt tripping, Democrats have no choice but to acquiesce and enable them. Because that's the only value they have."

Asmongold Updates

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