Are you okay now?

All that arrangement changed when Christ entered the picture. Anything outside him is idolatory.

Okay

Seminarian. Bra¡nwashed to bra¡nwash others

Are you saying the bible is a tool for brainwashing?

That's a trick question. But I'll help you. @grok any history on the bible been used to brainwash people?

Yes. The 1807 "Slave Bible" for West Indian slaves cut ~90% of the Old Testament and freedom stories (like Exodus) while keeping obedience verses such as Ephesians 6:5. The Curse of Ham (Genesis 9) was long twisted to justify African slavery. Selective readings also backed Crusades, colonialism and Manifest Destiny. The same text was used by abolitionists for the opposite cause.

@TrendfusionNG @O_ebuka001 History backs the example. The 1807 Slave Bible omitted most liberation passages while retaining those on obedience. Documented facts often end the exchange.

You keep making doctrines out of one offs Ok, what about the bone of a donkey that Samson used to fight in the bible? Should we no venerate it because Samson used it to kill lots of people? Even Judaism people that male sacrifices still don't do these things The handkerchief was on a one off by Paul, and that was because he couldn't be physically present, so he was led by the spirit to do so. It didn't say you people should now form a doctrine of handkerchief healing. Why do you people wanna turn everything to a doctrine?? The apostles didn't practice these things at all

Did the body of Samson heal or do miracle?

@masterverse2 But the body of Elisha did. And lots of saints too, with scientific evidence too. Keep believing your fake pastors with their staged miracles while the truth passes you by.

@masterverse2 I no believe

If I dig up my greatgrand mothers relic and keep it in my room @CCSoludo will say am a ritualist

@CCSoludo If she was a christians and body so miracle she's a saints

@blocboy4LL @CCSoludo Oya ans me is there any black saints that have been venerated???

@O_ebuka001 @CCSoludo Blacks can’t be Saint in the books 😆

@uglyboyvoke @O_ebuka001 @CCSoludo Yes there are multiple black saint and even Nigerian saint

@uglyboyvoke @O_ebuka001 @CCSoludo He’s blessed not a saint and he was beautified in Oba Anambra state

One is evil, One is pure.... 😩😩😩😩

Haven't you heard that devil imitate want is holy to do wonders

But you bow to it? Especially statues of Mary and other saints

No catholic worship saints or Mary know that

5 people will gather in a room and agree that ms Agatha is a saint. And then they will order you slaves to start worshipping and honoring her. If my father and his brothers come together to say their grandfather was a saint and then dig up his skull, una go begin talk rubbish!

Have you read 2 Kings 13:20-22 yourself to notice the difference? This is demonic and I'll advice you to leave immediately...

You can tell the pope

I'll gladly do so

Religious people are sick people

Start with your pastors

I don't have any pastor , all of them are same

Why didn’t the Israelites build a shrine to keep the bones of Elisha and start venerating them? The church should scrap this practice. It’s unnecessary. You can keep the relics in a museum. People can go, see the relics, pray in their hearts if they wish, but pubic prayers NO.

This has to be the dumbest defense you could possibly put for this. Where is peter’s shadow today? Did Israel keep Elisha’s bones? Did Paul’s handkerchief go into museum? Utterly ridiculous. Next time use Elijah’s cloak; shows some level of intelligence. This is infuriating

Can you imagine someone claiming he is knowledgeable using ignorance to teach his so called ignorance sect. So bible story ends with those that wrote the story. But those actions outlined in the bible cannot happen today and you want the people of today to use the story.

Continue to whine yourself

Okay

Done well sir

Thank you

Well spoken

Thank you chika

What about the Lord Jesus Christ? Why are there no references to him? Was there anywhere he taught on such practice? Yall need to wake up for real

What did Jesus tell the apostle

@FabianOkeke3 What did he tell the Appstles ?

@O_ebuka001 Good question. Let me allow him shoot him self in the leg

Keep spinning. In the Bible, all the acts U spoke about wer done impromptu,. It was a Faith ignition, not a planned operation, like the man waiting by the water to be troubled once a year when Christ whom is 24/7 was right der. U know little to nothing on the word of God.Continu

Na trash you they talk

You are an idiot... You don't have to explain to me what idolatry is. For the fact that you are even explaining, underscores the truth that you are trying to deny. You can defend a culture that is not your own in any way but you can't defend your own native culture... Useless brainwashed he goat in a cassock

Yes Ebuka I have read the chapter, Elisha's bone was preserved for 900years and the High Priests of Israel were bowing, kissing and honoring(worship) it All of a sudden, 2kings is being used to defend a supposed priest touching carcasses until we talk about observing Shabbat

No one is bowing or worshipping it

And this is?

@O_ebuka001 Not worship. Worship always culminates in sacrifice. Veneration consists in showing acts of devotion and admiration. Worship is about all of the above and sacrifice. The Catholic Mass is sacrifice. You Protestants removed sacrifice from worship and it became mere service.

@oparaERI @O_ebuka001 @grok verify this info

The claims match Catholic teaching. Latria (worship due God alone) centers on sacrifice; the Mass re-presents Christ’s once-for-all Cross sacrifice unbloodily. Veneration (dulia) is honor and devotion without sacrifice. Reformers rejected the Mass as propitiatory sacrifice, so Protestant services emphasize memorial or praise rather than that offering. Historical difference holds; views differ on whether the distinction is biblical.

That 2kings passage you guys keep quoting up n down can you simply tell the people why it happened why did Elisha bones healed that man ? And you’ll see it’s not because his a saint or so 😂

Peter prayed for those handkerchiefs, just like Jesus used mud.but creating idols all around church believing that peradventure it might heal you when Jesus said "I'm the way and no one goes to the father; healing, forgiveness etc minus passing through me" is diabolical)

Full blown idolatry..stop self deception

Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and humanity, and the Holy Spirit is the complete guide for believers. The stories and scenery all point to Jesus Christ. Anything else is idol worshiping

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery

Ebuka you be animal

Mental slavery

You have this beautiful nonsense explanation for foreign nonsense and you wouldn't give the same grace to traditionals. Instead you misrepresent them and say they worship devil. African are still slaves to the bones of their masters but the hate d name of their ancestors

Oga he’s speaking rubbish and justifying their idolatry as catholics. This is a new covenant & we are new creatures These are one of the reasons I left the catholic church for good. Always justifying their idolatry with points that are not aligned with the creation and what Christ has done on the cross

Are you okey?

Very much okay!

Konji wan finish this one

No

You've done well. But please, don't let these heretics get to you. They're called "protestants" for a very good reason in fact..

"Ignorance is the loudest" I agree. That's why you spent 30 seconds of my time defending idolatry and calling it a "relic" Nowhere in the Bible are Christians called to practice such.