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Both David Platt and J.D. Greear have the same basic response to the documentaries exposing their deceitfulness. 1. Assume the church members are wrong. Ruslan assumes the lawsuits were dropped. Uh, one is ongoing and the other one was decided against McLean, but Platt just lets Ruslan tell a...

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Фото профиля Jon Harris 🌲
Jon Harris 🌲11 месяцев назад

If you want to see what really happened, watch "The Real David Platt," and "Defenders of Faith" at

Фото профиля Jon Harris 🌲
Jon Harris 🌲11 месяцев назад

Meant to say: "They just try to give spiritual advice for people to connect with because we all go through trials in our own lives."

Фото профиля Tim Bushong
Tim Bushong11 месяцев назад

Both Greear and Platt are liars, no doubt. But personal loyalties and toxically giving the benefit of the doubt runs pretty deep.

Фото профиля Joseph Agemy
Joseph Agemy11 месяцев назад

I have seen this in too many churches. Men like David Platt use words like justice as a disarming mechanism while redefining it through a Marxist interpretive lense. All the while saying it’s what is in scripture. The spirit of the age is strong with this one.

Фото профиля dabhidh m
dabhidh m11 месяцев назад

Not surprising. I've seen this kind of thing in many forms and contexts over the years, and the upshot is always, "We are going to do what we are going to do. We will not accept advice or correctionm, nor take seriously concerns from outside our team. Resistence to our agenda is unholy rebellion and persecution, driven by a desire to disturb the peace of the body."

Фото профиля Big_rock
Big_rock11 месяцев назад

If Ruslan is going to interview Platt, he should (and maybe he did, who knows) offer to bring someone on to talk from the side opposing Platt. Proverbs 18:17: The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

Фото профиля FungibleFani
FungibleFani11 месяцев назад

I watched Faith Baptist Church hostile takeover by JD and his henchmen. Disturbing beyond words. Thank God there were brave men that stood up to this charlatan. Reminds me of Jesus calling out the snakes and vipers in Jerusalem...

Фото профиля josephtoomey
josephtoomey11 месяцев назад

On a somewhat related note, I like this documentary, and I find myself watching your channel more and more. Your reasonable

Фото профиля Patriot Angler 🇺🇸
Patriot Angler 🇺🇸11 месяцев назад

This is a bad look for charismatics. I am not surprised @RuslanKD hosted this guy. He also hosts Benny Hinn supporters.

Фото профиля Barnard
Barnard11 месяцев назад

Greear is trying to compare the politics of the time of Christ to the left/right divide in the U.S. today. How does anyone fall for this?

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Neil, I understand that you love your pastor, but your love should cause you to call him to repentance instead of trying to justify his statements (Reader, click through and read Neil's small thread and his quotes from John Calvin before you read my response). Neil, 1) Greear does not mention the Apostle Paul's "thorn in the flesh" at all in this sermon. He does not mention 2 Corinthians 12 where Paul describes his "thorn." 2) Greear does not mention John Calvin. This is you trying to put Calvin's words in your pastor's mouth. And you misinterpret Calvin as well. 3) In the video, Greear says we must be compassionate towards "gay and lesbian people" because God has not answered their prayer. He says that they got effected with a different form of the curse than other people. He treats "LGBT folks" as victims. But afflictions do not require repentance and victims are not required to repent. Greear teaches in this sermon that same-sex attraction is an affliction, not a sin to be turned from and rejected. He only condemns homosexual behavior as sin. 4) Greear also softens the heinousness of "LGBT sin" and the beauty of God's design by saying in this same sermon, "The gospel message is not “let the gay become straight” but “let the dead become alive.” Imagine saying, "The gospel message is not "let the racist become loving" but "let the dead become alive," or, "The gospel message is not "let the murderer become loving" but "let the dead become alive." Whenever your pastor pits "straight" against the gospel, he's pitting God's design against God's design, which is only what the devil does in Christ's temptation. It's pure empty rhetoric and deception. And Greear says, "Let me say something very clearly: Homosexuality does not send you to hell. And here’s how I know that: Being heterosexual doesn’t send you to heaven." Again, Jesus came to fulfill the law, and part of His perfect fulfillment of the law was His obedience to loving God and His neighbor perfectly, including His perfect love for His bride, the church. Jesus' fulfillment of "heterosexuality" for the church and in the church is indeed part of what sends Christians to Heaven. Again, this is just empty rhetoric from your pastor. Imagine saying, "Being Trans doesn't send you to Hell because being male or female doesn't send you to Heaven." Or, "Being racist doesn't send you to hell because loving your neighbor doesn't send you to heaven." And Greear says, "I mean, in terms of frequency of mention and the passion with which he mentions it, it would appear that quite a few other sins are more egregious in God’s eyes than homosexuality...The Bible appears more to whisper on sexual sin compared to its shouts about materialism and religious pride. And we see Jesus demonstrating great sympathy for those in sexual sin and great animosity toward the religiously proud. Jesus never said it was hard for the same-sex attracted to go to heaven; he did say it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a religiously proud or materially wealthy person to get there. This is not to say it’s not sinful--just to say we often present it differently than the Bible does." The Bible most certainly does not "whisper" about any sin, especially the sin of homosexuality. Ask anyone in Hell. Or ask Jesus about the cross. Such a statement diminishes God's law, God's righteous wrath, and what Christ endured for us on the cross. Plus, what about Sodom and Gomorrah? What about the Canaanite cleansing? What about the flood? None of that sounds like whispering! And, speaking of the "frequency" of sins, if we followed Greear's logic, it would mean that God whispers about pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, sado-masochism, etc, because they're all mentioned in Scripture less than homosexuality. This is preposterous! God doesn't have to mention every sin multiple times or more than once to condemn it. The heinousness of sin is not due to how many times God condemns it. The heinousness of sin is determined based on how far away man is from obedience to God's command. And homosexuality is the literal turning upside down of God's design for our bodies. In all of Romans 1, homosexuality is the only sin mentioned that Paul calls, "unnatural." That's why it's more heinous rebellion against God and more detrimental to the person and nations who embrace it; it's further from God's design. 5) Your pastor tries to argue that the end of Romans 1 is Paul condemning everyone because they commit some of those sins. Again, Greear is trying to say that Paul is arguing that homosexuality is merely as heinous as the individual sins listed at the end of Romans 1. But Paul's point is that those who worship the creature, turn sexuality upside down, and dive into all sin, "all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice" (Rom 1:29). The list at the end of Romans 1 should be taken collectively not individually as Greear does. Their lives are full of habitual sin. That does not describe any Christian. If Romans 1 describes anyone in your church, he or she is not a Christian according to Paul. But Greear uses the list at the end of Romans 1 to say that all sin is the same in heinousness, which is not what Paul taught in Romans 1 or elsewhere. 6) The bottom line is that your pastor in this sermon adopts the world's definitions of "LGBT people." He treats SSA as ontological, as an affliction, not as a sin that must be repented of, not as a pathological sin pattern that God can change through Christ. Your pastor actually rebukes the church for condemning LGBT as a sin: "Listen: We only grasp the gospel when we understand, as Paul did, that we are the worst sinner we know (1 Tim 1:15)— and that if Jesus came to die for us, there is no one that he would not die for. When you realize that, you’ll cease being a Pharisaic teacher of the law and you’ll become a gospel witness. You’ll start loving your neighbor as someone made in the image of God and feeling compassion for them in their weakness." So, LGBT is weakness? That's not how the Bible describes sin. And Jesus never had compassion for sin or even sinners in their sin. He had compassion for image bearers in spite of their sin. That's the opposite of what Greear is doing. Greear softens the Bible's language against LGBT throughout this sermon in the name of "compassion." But Christ does not soften the law in the name of compassion; He does the opposite. He slays with the law to send the sinner running to Him. Remember how Christ addressed the self-righteous rich young ruler? As John Mark writes, "And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” Disheartened by the saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions" Mark 10:21-22). It's an indefensible sermon that even Greear would not have preached 10 years earlier. What changed? It wasn't the Bible. The culture got soft on LGBT and now your pastor is as well.

Jared Moore

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So, providential moment in church today. Yesterday, Jon Harris 🌲 and I discussed how the proponents of "third way" will often use uncharitable speech with their critics even as they demand charitable treatment. I used the example of JD Greear famously calling those who objected to his bringing social justice ideology into the SBC a "synagogue of Satan." Today, my pastor went over the passage in Revelation 2 that uses this phrase and explained its context. The Apostle John calls a subset of Jews a "synagogue of Satan" because they were encouraging the Romans to persecute the Christians because the Christians would not worship Caesar as Lord. They would not assimilate into the culture. They would not synthesize the culture's values with Christian values. So, in fact, those who were resisting Greear's efforts to bring influences from BLM, antiracism, CRT, etc. into the SBC were the ones behaving like the church of Smyrna, who the Lord commends. GREEAR was the one behaving like the synagogue of Satan by 1) seeking to incorporate worldly trends into the church. And 2) going to the platforms of our societal powers (various media outlets) and condemning his brothers and sisters before the world for not joining in their religious practices, so to speak. This clip is kind of long, and I want to be CRYSTAL CLEAR here, this is my application of my pastor's teaching. He has never applied it to this particular incident. This is just me making that application. Because I think it's an apt one.

Megan Basham

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