Bro thinks we forgot 😭

I genuinely can’t believe people like you think this is a clip. Ip literally calls out OM for tryna hit Muhammed in Barts book rather than the Bible itself 😭😭 Even if Bart IS saying what OM is saying I didn’t know Bart had more authority than the Bible bro. Braindead

Oh yeah I forgot Bart Ehrman Rudolph Bultmann and all these other scholars are actually exegeting Harry Potter not the Bible. My bad

Hey idiot idk if u know but it is ur bad, I na debate about THE BIBLE you have to show IN THE BIBLE WHERE MUHMAMMED IS not an outside source. The whole clip is about Bart and his work not the bible plus Bart has said on other occasions Jesus sees himself as the son of man 😂😂😂

Does Jesus speak about the son of man in the Bible or in Harry Potter?

Wow you’re a moron 😂no wonder you’ve never done a real debate

That’s what I thought

Yeah bro go pray to Bart or something it seems like he’s ur authority now

Dude this is embarrassing levels of cope from you😂 You and other libyanosexuals have been at it for months to cover for his loss on a ridiculous debate topic, which even other Muslims have admitted btw Let it go lil bro. Muhammad in the Bible is dead and buried

Are you now claiming Muhammad is the son of man?😂 The fact that other Muslims are telling you this is a trash argument and that libyano made several blunders tells me all I need to know

Yes, Muhammad ﷺ is the son of man who establishes the kingdom of God which destroys the previous empires like Rome, which Islām did.

Aight man🤣

@Ahraz__ Did not wanna get into the weeds 😭

@1dr1zzz Loll he knows what’ll happen Somehow Hosea 11:1 is a prophecy of Jesus tho 😂

@cutthroatfree What’ll happen is that you’ll blank me like during our last interaction😂 Prophecies of Jesus are congruent and affirmed by scholars including those with a Jewish No scholar takes Muhammad in the Bible seriously including Muslim scholars…

Do you think this is a good argument?

@Deenresponds P1: the son of man is the most glorified. P2: “Ahmad” means “the most glorified” C1: therefore, Ahmad (Muhammad) is the son of man. This inference is a pure non sequitur. to suggest that sharing one predicate establishes the identity of the subject is completely absurd.

@Deenresponds That’s not the argument, you consider the full context and make a cumulative case.

@Deenresponds The cumulative case under discussion rest primarily on the son of man being the most glorified figure. It remains unclear, however, how this reconciles the fallacious nature of the argument in question. Am I understanding you correctly, or is it just made to appear so…😂

Ahmad doesn’t mean most glorified. Come on Ahraz.. Notice how he had to distort the name of his prophet

Doxe in Greek which is used for the son of man is equivalent to Hamd in Arabic used in Ahmad ﷺ

False. Greek "Doxa" (δόξα) means glory/splendor, NOT praise (Hamd). The Greek for praise is "Epainos". "Son of Man" references Daniel 7, where glory is "Kavod" in Hebrew. You’re inventing cross-linguistic definitions to backpedal. Ahmad (أحمد) still means "most praised.

There are also translations from Christian Arabs that translate Doxe to Hamd

@Kiprap346 They're not after the truth

@Kiprap346 They have no agenda, they are just translating it into Arabic. Doxe is equivalent to Hamd in Arabic What you’re doing is translating them into English and then saying they’re not related but I gave you 2 scholarly sources that say that they are parallels. Also the translation.

😭😂😂🤣

Same scholars say Jesus was crucified. Muslims are dumb and inconsistent. Let’s see what Jesus said. Literally said He, the Son of God, IS the Son of man.

LOL THIS WAS THE MOST PEAK SHIT EVER, LESBIANO COMMITED SHIRK 😭😭🤣🤣😹😹 Ahmed doesn’t mean most glorified, Ip knows more Arabic then him

Ahmed doesn't even itself mean "most glorified". It just means glorified/praiseworthy. It is Muslim dogma that Muhammad is the MOST glorified. If we accept that Muhammad is the MOST glorified, we have already accepted Islam so there wouldnt 1/

Hamd in Arabic is equivalent to the Greek Doxe which is used to describe the son of man (translated as glory)

But this is an internal critique of the bible, so we can accept that the son of man would be the MOST glorified, even if it just calls him glorified. The internal critique does not extend to the Quran, so we dont have to accept the Muslim dogma that Muhammad is the most 1/

I don’t care what you accept or not Jesus spoke of a future son of man who would establish the kingdom of God which would then destroy the previous empires like Rome He described him using “Doxe” which is the Greek equivalent of Hamd, the name of the prophet Pretty clear

Again, you aren't understanding the argument. This argument can only work if we already prove the prophethood of Muhammad through other methods, leading us to conclude that he is the MOST glorified. But if we do that, why even attempt to have this conversation?

What's the use of an argument for proving Prophethood if you need to assume Prophethood for it in the first place? If Muhammad is shown to be a Prophet, it obviously means his claim of being in the previous scriptures is correct, so this argument is useless

I named my dog “Muhammad” this now means my dog is Muhammad the prophet 🤯 this logic is idiotic

No, Jesus did not speak about Ahmed. The Quran says it's his name. If we're just going by the definition "most glorified one" then every reference to God in the entire Bible is really talking about Muhammad. This is why people laugh at and mock Libyano's arguments.

Why does he use fake "scolars" as proof? We never forget how you lie.

Jesus literally said the son of man is about to be handed over to be crucified lol

Dude just go to google and ask how many times Jesus refers to himself as the son of man

“Look at me I can cherry pick scholars that agree with me” this was an embarrassment of an argument. Muhammad is a pedo

And we didn’t forget that your degenerate pedophile cousin fucker religion produces low IQ retards like you through countless centuries of cousin inbreeding which is why your societies cannot do anything productive and have been outpaced massively by Christian western society.

Lesbiano is so fucking retarded holy shit 💀💀💀

Even if thats true . As muslims whats the point of proving something exist in a corrupted book .

Muslim cope is so hard to watch lmao

Buddy seriously think this is a clip 😭😭😭

Assist Achmed is an **Arabic name meaning "highly praised" or "one** or most Glorified!!! @muslimorthodoxy

They are translating names to hide it

Satan is up your nose you should go and wash him out...

We dgaf about scholars son

The Holy Spirit followed Jesus dumbass

😂 here we go again with an idiot trying to force a golfball thru a garden hose, it just doesn’t work. Friggin morons you guys are

Apparently you did cause appealing to authority garbage juice

Muslims thinking this is an own shows you how dumb they are 🤣😭

Look at his smug facade man tears

Fail again Orthodox edits and frames every debate to look victorious, yet keeps dodging my challenge. “Most glorified” describing the Son of Man does not magically turn him into Ahmad. Wordplay is not prophecy. Stop editing victory laps and answer the challenge.

Bro my name means most glorified. Could be me too,

Broo, this is Orthodox Muslim makkng shit up and trying to pass it as a sound argument. It literally a false equivalence and he is so stupid he got excited to put it out there. Islam will rot your grein

IP is an idiot but muslim should stop arguing for Daniel 2 and 7. The 4th kingdom is Greece and the son of man is an angel.