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browsers mostly skip updating hover state while you scroll so I made super-hover, a tiny utility library that checks what's under your cursor every frame! `pnpm add super-hover`

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daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

so why would you use this? well, you probably shouldn't. deprioritizing hover updates is most likely done for performance, so browsers can focus on scrolling, painting and any layout work needed as new elements enter the viewport. which is probably what you want by default!

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

BUT :) updating hover every frame opens up some fun interactions, like this super sick section by Locomotive, which first gave me the idea a while ago:

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

I noticed myself recreating this functionality for the 3rd time for various personal projects and wished this existed, so here it is now

Diego Rodriguez 的头像
Diego Rodriguez4 个月前

yo u should check @_chenglou midjourney gallery for an even simpler approach! in particular, the part about non-throttled cursor updates:

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

@_chenglou oh, how many times you showed his site to us haha, and i still missed (or forgot) about this part... thank u!!

Shannon Code 的头像
Shannon Code4 个月前

Can we please start shipping prompts already instead of shipping random npm packages?

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

you can def get to this in a few prompts, but at this point it would make more sense to just point the agent to your codebase and describe on which elements you want to achieve an effect like this. so i don’t think it makes too much sense to publish a general prompt but also if you are only worried about installing an npm pkg, you can also point your agent to the codebase on github and say, hey copy this without installing or something code is super short and doesnt have any runtime deps:)

Shannon Code 的头像
Shannon Code4 个月前

I just mean in general, and now days it’s almost safer to ship instructions to an agent than an npm package.

DAKOKI 的头像
DAKOKI4 个月前

hmm but how bad is it really for performance? Could it be worth it to add a nice touch to prod? Interesting!

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

it is def worse than just using the default `:hover` so I'd say it depends on your use-case: If it's for some fun creative effects, landing pages / portfolios, for sure, but i'd def avoid it for webapps or anywhere where perf is super super important will do some benchmarks later to get a more accurate picture tho

Codedgar 的头像
Codedgar4 个月前

This should throttle or have performance considerations no?

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

yes, certainly haha will try to do some benchmarking later to get a more accurate picture how much worse it is tho

Nikil Kuruvilla 的头像
Nikil Kuruvilla4 个月前

@AndrewPrifer Interesting I build an npm package called virtual-text-layout that uses pretext alongside Tanstack virtual to do infinite scrolls. I do have a live demo link on the package page.

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

@AndrewPrifer uu this seems interesting, i’ll take a look!

vie ⟢ 的头像
vie ⟢4 个月前

AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Meefs 的头像
Meefs4 个月前

how you gonna show us selected ambient works and have no audio 😭😭

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

🫶

Ankur 的头像
Ankur4 个月前

No visible frame drops on react-scan. Thats optimised like crazy. Also im curious is there any other way of doing this? like we can calculate where we are on the container and according to the height of each element we can determine which element is active? @jh3yy

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

1. yeah react-scan can be a good proxy, but it doesn't give a full picture eg. on a more complex site with more elements, where the browser has to do much more work, I'd expect bigger differences between this and native :hover. I'll try to do some proper benchmarking later to get a more accurate picture tho 2. yeah you're right! as @asciidiego also pointed out, this can be achieved much more simply (and prob more performant) if you know your elements' positions/heights/layout etc: I think this library maybe has a place as a drop-in solution where you don't know, or don't want to manage all of that yourself - eg arbitrary tall elements, unknown layouts, framework rendered lists, etc. or idk, maybe I'm just trying to justify the work I did for this in hindsight hahah

Quentin Merabet 的头像
Quentin Merabet4 个月前

@AndrewPrifer @devenini + @plcossette coded

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

@AndrewPrifer @devenini @plcossette oh yes!

Quentin Merabet 的头像
Quentin Merabet4 个月前

@AndrewPrifer @devenini @plcossette Oh, funny! Didn’t see it!

Nikola Hristov 的头像
Nikola Hristov4 个月前

Genius.

Aimeric 的头像
Aimeric4 个月前

Heck yeah

CCJoerga 的头像
CCJoerga4 个月前

Should have included some benchmarks about the performance.

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

will do!

Brett 的头像
Brett4 个月前

So cool

yuwen lu 的头像
yuwen lu4 个月前

so good it makes my head spin

rixardo 的头像
rixardo4 个月前

can i supply chain attack this

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

the core package has no runtime dependencies, and react/vue are optional peer deps if you use said framework, if that's what you mean. but yeah, otherwise my npm account could be theoretically be compromised like any other account haha

ali 的头像
ali4 个月前

lovely

leo san ⭐️ ⊹˚ 的头像
leo san ⭐️ ⊹˚4 个月前

amazing work, as always! :)

Andy Ramos 的头像
Andy Ramos4 个月前

@vaibhav_khulbe It’s the little things 🤌🔥

Leo 的头像
Leo4 个月前

You can "hack" the browser's native optimization by making a small CSS animation based on margins, in a loop, and hidden. This way, the browser recalculates the hover on every frame.

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

interesting! do u have an example? or which property to animate?

Leo 的头像
Leo4 个月前

I "accidentally" discovered this while building this website. There's a connection between the top marquee and the list. If you remove the marquee, the browser blocks the hover state when scrolling.

RoversX 的头像
RoversX4 个月前

Any performance issues?

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

in this demo none, but on a more complex website/lists i'd expect some differences. Will do some benchmarks later!

Filip Wojda 的头像
Filip Wojda4 个月前

👌👌

David Sloiko 的头像
David Sloiko4 个月前

no. makes me dizzy

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

@sloikodavid i’d say whoever is using this would be responsible to just not use it on reduced-motion enabled. but fair feedback, will include an example about it in the docs, thank you!

Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska 的头像
Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska4 个月前

Wow that’s something new! Is the difference really noticeable tho?

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

you mean on terms of performance? in this particular demo there is none, but on a more complex website/list I’d expect some differences

Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska 的头像
Andreas Kruszakin-Liboska4 个月前

Yeah that was my question, very cool! Are you planning releasing other frameworks like these for performance optimized animations?

max based 的头像
max based4 个月前

dope and on trackpads?

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

trackpads acts like a mouse, so it should work the same unless I misunderstood your question haha

max based 的头像
max based4 个月前

oh so it lags behind yeah I wasn't noticing before

timelapse 的头像
timelapse4 个月前

Hovers should also be disabled when mouse button is down (during text selection)

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

good catch, will include it, thank u!!

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

for fun! :)

Lokendra 的头像
Lokendra4 个月前

Won't degrade the performance?

Tim 的头像
Tim4 个月前

What font is used here?

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

fira mono:)

Awnish 的头像
Awnish4 个月前

great project!

N!hal 的头像
N!hal4 个月前

tuff find

Imtiyaz Ahmed 的头像
Imtiyaz Ahmed4 个月前

Omggg! I would loved this months back when I was trying to build my long ass movie tracker. I had similar kind of interaction, didn't work well so skipped it THIS IS GENIUS! Where is my terminal, gotta install it

Ali 🌱 的头像
Ali 🌱4 个月前

bro sent the link 😭 really wanna hover this one

Isaac Hinman 的头像
Isaac Hinman4 个月前

CPU = 100%

Yassine Zaanouni 的头像
Yassine Zaanouni4 个月前

Honestly impressed you noticed this at all, it's the kind of subtle UX 99% of devs scroll right past (pun intended). Bookmarked.

daniel petho 的头像
daniel petho4 个月前

haha. but yes I think that also means this is a non-issue:)

Yassine Zaanouni 的头像
Yassine Zaanouni4 个月前

These are the kinds of things that make an experience feel premium without the user even knowing why That’s what makes it premium 👌

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