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Cards vs stablecoins for agentic payments? Both. And here is why. Cuy Sheffield (Visa Crypto) and Jay Yu 🐟 (Pantera Capital) join our Stateful podcast, hosted by Mason Nystrom. In this episode, they cover everything at the intersection of payments, AI, and crypto: - Stablecoin supply up 40%, adjusted...

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🚨 Ep. 40 of Tokenized Podcast: Every Bank Announced It’s Stablecoin Strategy Cuy Sheffield is joined by: ➡️ ethn, Co-Founder and CEO Allium ➡️ Noah Levine, Data and Strategy Visa To discuss: ⛓️ Visa's approach to on-chain data and analytics 🪙 Retail payment analysis using stablecoins under $250 🥊 Differences between USDT and USDC usage in retail payments 👛 Coinbase Wallet evolution into the Base App with social features 🛠️ Future of crypto applications built on self-custodial wallets 🏦 Citi's focus on tokenized deposits and fiat services for stablecoins 🔒 Privacy and interoperability challenges with tokenized deposits *** Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:12 Visa's approach to on-chain data and analytics 04:53 Retail payment analysis using stablecoins under $250 09:21 Differences between USDT and USDC usage in retail payments 13:06 Coinbase Wallet evolution into the Base App with social features 17:25 Future of crypto applications built on self-custodial wallets 21:30 Content coins vs. NFTs and their role in social engagement 25:22 Citi's focus on tokenized deposits and fiat services for stablecoins 30:06 Privacy and interoperability challenges with tokenized deposits 32:48 Public vs. permissioned blockchains for tokenized deposits *** 👉𝘚𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 '𝘛𝘰𝘬𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘻𝘦𝘥 𝘗𝘰𝘥𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘵' 𝘖𝘯 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘛𝘶𝘣𝘦. 𝘈𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘦, 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘺 𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘗𝘰𝘥𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳! 👈

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So far, machine payments have mostly been about businesses accepting stablecoins. And stablecoins are great (cross-border, low cost, etc.)! But much of the planet is holding a card. 🤖 💳 🌎 Here’s a 📺 sneak peek demo from Steve Kaliski of how a business can programmatically accept cards via agents. As an example: Stripe Climate is a way to contribute to carbon removal funding. Stripe Climate implemented the Machine Payments Protocol using the Stripe API, so agents can make micropayment donations ( In addition to accepting stablecoin (specifically usdc on Tempo), agents can now pay with fiat methods, namely cards and Link (and soon buy-now-pay-laters) via Shared Payment Tokens (SPTs), using the same Machine Payments Protocol integration. Human buyers, their agents, and businesses each have their own preferred methods of payment. Humans often already have a card. Agents may prefer stablecoins. Businesses tend to want to accept any form of payment, as long as it is high conversion, low fraud, and properly priced. For microtransactions, stablecoins are a low-cost way (no fixed card fee) to transact. But if you want to tell your agent to donate $100 on your behalf, a card may be the preferred solution. If you’re a business and want to accept machine payments, whether over stablecoins, cards, Link, or other future methods, read about Shared Payment Tokens ( and sign up for our machine payments private preview: And stay tuned: more to make it easy for consumers, agents, and businesses to transact, shipping over the next few weeks. (And excuse the acronyms and specifics terms, there's a lot of new infrastructure and primitives being built to support agentic commerce.)

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