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Chinese netizens' latest AI masterpiece: Their Terminator-style bot single-handedly wipes out a fleet of Tesla Optimus robots in epic simulation battle. Victory declared before breakfast 🇨🇳🤖 Musk, your move? 😂

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Demystifying China's Dancing Robots: How Did They Catch Handkerchiefs?🇨🇳🤖 16 humanoid robots from Chinese robotics company, Unitree, took center stage at the annual #SpringFestivalGala. The robots seamlessly coordinated with 16 human dancers to perform a traditional Yangko dance, a vibrant folk art form from northeast China, blending cultural heritage with cutting-edge technology. One of the most captivating moments came when the robots showcased their ability to manipulate handkerchiefs, a signature element of Yangko dance. With precise mechanical arm movements, the robots sent the handkerchiefs twirling and soaring through the air, creating a dazzling visual spectacle that symbolized the perfect fusion of tradition and modernity. To maintain the stable upright standing position is already a challenge for current humanoid robots – consider the shaky steps and tendency to roll off even a small incline of Elon Musk's Optimus. To toss a handkerchief and catch it back in place requires the integration of sensors, algorithm and smart design. "We've designed a very clever mechanism that integrates multiple AI control algorithms. There are two motors at the end of the robotic arm: one maintains a high-speed spinning motion, while the other ensures that the handkerchief can be thrown out and then retracted," Unitree's marketing representative said. The 16 humanoid robots belong to Unitree's H1 series, nicknamed Fuxi. Standing at 1.8 meters tall and weighing 47 kilograms, the robots took the stage at the Spring Festival Gala stage over a year after debuting in August 2023. They also attended the NVIDIA GTC conference in 2024. #ChineseNewYear #DeepSeek (Link:
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Demystifying China's Dancing Robots: How Did They Catch Handkerchiefs?🇨🇳🤖 16 humanoid robots from Chinese robotics company, Unitree, took center stage at the annual #SpringFestivalGala. The robots seamlessly coordinated with 16 human dancers to perform a traditional Yangko dance, a vibrant folk art form from northeast China, blending cultural heritage with cutting-edge technology. One of the most captivating moments came when the robots showcased their ability to manipulate handkerchiefs, a signature element of Yangko dance. With precise mechanical arm movements, the robots sent the handkerchiefs twirling and soaring through the air, creating a dazzling visual spectacle that symbolized the perfect fusion of tradition and modernity. To maintain the stable upright standing position is already a challenge for current humanoid robots – consider the shaky steps and tendency to roll off even a small incline of Elon Musk's Optimus. To toss a handkerchief and catch it back in place requires the integration of sensors, algorithm and smart design. "We've designed a very clever mechanism that integrates multiple AI control algorithms. There are two motors at the end of the robotic arm: one maintains a high-speed spinning motion, while the other ensures that the handkerchief can be thrown out and then retracted," Unitree's marketing representative said. The 16 humanoid robots belong to Unitree's H1 series, nicknamed Fuxi. Standing at 1.8 meters tall and weighing 47 kilograms, the robots took the stage at the Spring Festival Gala stage over a year after debuting in August 2023. They also attended the NVIDIA GTC conference in 2024. #ChineseNewYear #DeepSeek (Link:

Li Jingjing 李菁菁

11,169 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

🚨 This might be the most important Tesla to Mars - The Podcast podcast episode we've ever recorded. One of many to come... If you're even slightly curious about how Tesla will change the world.. This is where the robotaxi countdown begins. 👇 We dive into: 🚗 Why Tesla's Robotaxi strategy is more than just ride-hailing 💰 The economics of turning cars into cash machines 📉 Why your used Tesla might be more valuable than you think 🤖 How humanoid robots (Optimus) fit into the fleet 🌀 The Doge Flywheel, data monetization, edge AI, and the age of abundance 📈 Real-world insights from MisterGreen’s 5,000-vehicle fleet 🧭 How YOU can position yourself before the tidal wave hits This episode isn’t just about cars. It’s about what happens when intelligence, mobility, and automation converge. The future is being built and it's faster than most realize. If you want to be ahead of the curve… This is where to start! 🔗 to full YT video in the comments below. Let me know what you think! And if you wanna join, hit me up!
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🚨 This might be the most important Tesla to Mars - The Podcast podcast episode we've ever recorded. One of many to come... If you're even slightly curious about how Tesla will change the world.. This is where the robotaxi countdown begins. 👇 We dive into: 🚗 Why Tesla's Robotaxi strategy is more than just ride-hailing 💰 The economics of turning cars into cash machines 📉 Why your used Tesla might be more valuable than you think 🤖 How humanoid robots (Optimus) fit into the fleet 🌀 The Doge Flywheel, data monetization, edge AI, and the age of abundance 📈 Real-world insights from MisterGreen’s 5,000-vehicle fleet 🧭 How YOU can position yourself before the tidal wave hits This episode isn’t just about cars. It’s about what happens when intelligence, mobility, and automation converge. The future is being built and it's faster than most realize. If you want to be ahead of the curve… This is where to start! 🔗 to full YT video in the comments below. Let me know what you think! And if you wanna join, hit me up!

Kees Roelandschap

13,777 Aufrufe • vor 1 Jahr

🇨🇳 China has demonstrated another computer simulation using the Zhutian reconnaissance-strike drone, capable of carrying up to 100 small kamikaze drones. 1. In the first case, it shows how a swarm of kamikazes is launched from a drone in the airspace over the Chinese province of Fujian to disable Taiwan's air defense systems, initially already knowing their location and capabilities. 2. In the second case, strikes are carried out against the US Navy's aircraft carrier strike group in the Pacific Ocean and its deck-based aircraft. Due to the large number of kamikazes, a breakthrough in American air defense is achieved. It's clear that in the simulation, so many drones cannot carry kamikazes at once. It's likely that in the case of real combat use, up to a squadron of 12 Zhutian drones will be simultaneously launched into the air. See the latest updates with us: Visioner
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🇨🇳 China has demonstrated another computer simulation using the Zhutian reconnaissance-strike drone, capable of carrying up to 100 small kamikaze drones. 1. In the first case, it shows how a swarm of kamikazes is launched from a drone in the airspace over the Chinese province of Fujian to disable Taiwan's air defense systems, initially already knowing their location and capabilities. 2. In the second case, strikes are carried out against the US Navy's aircraft carrier strike group in the Pacific Ocean and its deck-based aircraft. Due to the large number of kamikazes, a breakthrough in American air defense is achieved. It's clear that in the simulation, so many drones cannot carry kamikazes at once. It's likely that in the case of real combat use, up to a squadron of 12 Zhutian drones will be simultaneously launched into the air. See the latest updates with us: Visioner

Visioner

58,832 Aufrufe • vor 7 Monaten

TESLA: Is the major growth behind the company - or ahead of it?? That is always an important question to ask. But Tesla has Elon Musk. And Elon Musk thinks at scales that might cause other CEO’s brains to short-circuit. While they are planning a flashy product demo; Elon Musk is planning for: ♦️ A BILLION AI Chips ♦️100 MILLION Robots ♦️A Terawatt of Power Plans this big require vertical integration; an obsessive focus on locking down supply chains (moving suppliers to YOUR timeline); and removing all obstacles, unnecessary parts or processes —especially when the full ecosystem must align to deliver at this scale. Plans this big can dwarf Tesla’s 43% compounded returns to date. Spectacular which made Larry Fink suggest you should invest in growth, specifically in Elon Musk. Spectacular returns which Larry Fink contrasted to Blackrock’s own returns of ~21%. ♦️Do you think Elon Musk can do it? I follow the infrastructure moves closely — ground broken on the Terafab research fab lab, industrial machines being ordered, job listings for chip experts in Seoul and Taiwan, and the Optimus line taking over the Model S/X floor space in Fremont. ♦️My answer is Elon Musk ALREADY IS. Doubters can get out of his way. Elon Musk will bend reality to achieve his ambition.
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TESLA: Is the major growth behind the company - or ahead of it?? That is always an important question to ask. But Tesla has Elon Musk. And Elon Musk thinks at scales that might cause other CEO’s brains to short-circuit. While they are planning a flashy product demo; Elon Musk is planning for: ♦️ A BILLION AI Chips ♦️100 MILLION Robots ♦️A Terawatt of Power Plans this big require vertical integration; an obsessive focus on locking down supply chains (moving suppliers to YOUR timeline); and removing all obstacles, unnecessary parts or processes —especially when the full ecosystem must align to deliver at this scale. Plans this big can dwarf Tesla’s 43% compounded returns to date. Spectacular which made Larry Fink suggest you should invest in growth, specifically in Elon Musk. Spectacular returns which Larry Fink contrasted to Blackrock’s own returns of ~21%. ♦️Do you think Elon Musk can do it? I follow the infrastructure moves closely — ground broken on the Terafab research fab lab, industrial machines being ordered, job listings for chip experts in Seoul and Taiwan, and the Optimus line taking over the Model S/X floor space in Fremont. ♦️My answer is Elon Musk ALREADY IS. Doubters can get out of his way. Elon Musk will bend reality to achieve his ambition.

Amy

12,507 Aufrufe • vor 2 Monaten

Data has always been the bottleneck for physical AI in self driving and robotics. Tesla is taking two very different approaches for FSD and Optimus. Tesla’s Optimus Training Playbook: 1. Build 30k Optimus Gen 3 robots 2. Operate them in a mock environment where they can perform self-play “Optimus Academy” 3. Train in sim using the real robot data to close sim2real gap. Tesla FSD Training Playbook: 1. Sell millions of cars outfitted with cheap cameras 2. Collect diverse real world driving data (especially intervention and failure recovery data) for free as a byproduct of customers driving the cars. 3. Use driving data to train Autopilot/FSD and deploy policies incrementally as a supervised FSD product 4. Repeat until policy reaches robust unsupervised full self driving for robotaxi launch. The Tesla FSD playbook is a beautiful self-funding, customer subsidized, diverse real world data flywheel. The Optimus playbook is the opposite and shares none of the beautiful attributes of the FSD training flywheel that made FSD successful. The key differences: 1. Instead of having customers pay you for vehicles, Tesla will need to fund 30,000 Optimus robots. Assuming the current landed cost per unit is $100k, that will be $3B to build plus another ~30% per year for maintenance labor and spare parts given it’s still an unhardened pre-production prototype is another $900M per year. For reference, Tesla’s GAAP net income in 2025 was $3.8B. 2. Instead of having customers drive their Teslas on roads all across the world giving Tesla an insanely rich and diverse dataset that Waymo and other AV companies could never collect, the Optimus Academy is doing the equivalent of building a fake town in a parking lot and driving their car in that parking lot. No matter how real you try to make the environments for self-play you can never replicate the diversity, complexity and failure modes of the real world. Data collected in staged environments produces demo-grade policies and will not be rich enough to generalize to the vast diversity of environments, tasks, objects, etc. out of distribution. 3. Instead of having customers collect real world failure recovery data (DAgger style) for free every time FSD disengages, the Optimus Academy will need paid teleoperators or onsite operators to collect the recovery data. Assuming 1 person can manage 2 robots to start that would cost $3.5B in labor per year (30,000 robots, $40/hr fully loaded, 16 hrs/day, 365 days per year, 2:1 robot:operator). Tesla can come up with the money to do this but money doesn’t solve the “mock data” problem. Given the higher degrees of freedom in humanoids vs. cars, training a generalized humanoid will be harder and require more data than a self-driving vehicle. The best way to train your robot is by deploying them in the diverse real world, subsidized by real customer operations. Humanoids face a chicken and egg where it’s very hard to bootstrap your way to a first policy that’s good enough to deploy in real production environments. This is an extremely capital intensive playbook (which doesn’t even include cost of training). Time will tell if it works but a better playbook would be finding a way to copy the FSD playbook.
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Data has always been the bottleneck for physical AI in self driving and robotics. Tesla is taking two very different approaches for FSD and Optimus. Tesla’s Optimus Training Playbook: 1. Build 30k Optimus Gen 3 robots 2. Operate them in a mock environment where they can perform self-play “Optimus Academy” 3. Train in sim using the real robot data to close sim2real gap. Tesla FSD Training Playbook: 1. Sell millions of cars outfitted with cheap cameras 2. Collect diverse real world driving data (especially intervention and failure recovery data) for free as a byproduct of customers driving the cars. 3. Use driving data to train Autopilot/FSD and deploy policies incrementally as a supervised FSD product 4. Repeat until policy reaches robust unsupervised full self driving for robotaxi launch. The Tesla FSD playbook is a beautiful self-funding, customer subsidized, diverse real world data flywheel. The Optimus playbook is the opposite and shares none of the beautiful attributes of the FSD training flywheel that made FSD successful. The key differences: 1. Instead of having customers pay you for vehicles, Tesla will need to fund 30,000 Optimus robots. Assuming the current landed cost per unit is $100k, that will be $3B to build plus another ~30% per year for maintenance labor and spare parts given it’s still an unhardened pre-production prototype is another $900M per year. For reference, Tesla’s GAAP net income in 2025 was $3.8B. 2. Instead of having customers drive their Teslas on roads all across the world giving Tesla an insanely rich and diverse dataset that Waymo and other AV companies could never collect, the Optimus Academy is doing the equivalent of building a fake town in a parking lot and driving their car in that parking lot. No matter how real you try to make the environments for self-play you can never replicate the diversity, complexity and failure modes of the real world. Data collected in staged environments produces demo-grade policies and will not be rich enough to generalize to the vast diversity of environments, tasks, objects, etc. out of distribution. 3. Instead of having customers collect real world failure recovery data (DAgger style) for free every time FSD disengages, the Optimus Academy will need paid teleoperators or onsite operators to collect the recovery data. Assuming 1 person can manage 2 robots to start that would cost $3.5B in labor per year (30,000 robots, $40/hr fully loaded, 16 hrs/day, 365 days per year, 2:1 robot:operator). Tesla can come up with the money to do this but money doesn’t solve the “mock data” problem. Given the higher degrees of freedom in humanoids vs. cars, training a generalized humanoid will be harder and require more data than a self-driving vehicle. The best way to train your robot is by deploying them in the diverse real world, subsidized by real customer operations. Humanoids face a chicken and egg where it’s very hard to bootstrap your way to a first policy that’s good enough to deploy in real production environments. This is an extremely capital intensive playbook (which doesn’t even include cost of training). Time will tell if it works but a better playbook would be finding a way to copy the FSD playbook.

Simon Kalouche

34,671 Aufrufe • vor 5 Monaten

OPTIMUS: TESLA’S HUMANOID ROBOT IS ABOUT TO TRANSFORM LABOR & ABUNDANCE Optimus isn’t just a cool prototype—it’s Tesla’s bet on solving the biggest economic constraint of the future: physical labor shortages. Designed from the ground up as a general-purpose humanoid, Optimus will handle unsafe, repetitive, or boring tasks at scale, freeing humans for higher-value work and accelerating abundance across industries. Key impacts already in motion: •Factory deployment — Early units are performing real tasks at Tesla Gigafactories, proving reliability in chaotic, real-world environments. •Dangerous & dull jobs — Welding, heavy lifting, sorting, cleaning hazardous sites—Optimus takes the risk so people don’t have to. •24/7 productivity — No fatigue, no breaks, no unions—constant output that scales with demand. •Home & care applications — Helping the elderly, assisting with disabilities, or handling household chores—turning science fiction into everyday reality. •Economic multiplier — When humanoid robots become cheaper than human labor, costs collapse in manufacturing, logistics, agriculture, and services—unlocking massive productivity gains and lower prices for everyone. From first walking demos to factory trials, Optimus is progressing faster than most realize. It’s the physical embodiment of Tesla’s AI + robotics vision: a world where physical work is abundant, safe, and optional. Which Optimus application excites you most—factory scaling, elder care, or seeing it cook breakfast? The age of humanoid helpers is closer than you think. 🤖⚡🚀
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OPTIMUS: TESLA’S HUMANOID ROBOT IS ABOUT TO TRANSFORM LABOR & ABUNDANCE Optimus isn’t just a cool prototype—it’s Tesla’s bet on solving the biggest economic constraint of the future: physical labor shortages. Designed from the ground up as a general-purpose humanoid, Optimus will handle unsafe, repetitive, or boring tasks at scale, freeing humans for higher-value work and accelerating abundance across industries. Key impacts already in motion: •Factory deployment — Early units are performing real tasks at Tesla Gigafactories, proving reliability in chaotic, real-world environments. •Dangerous & dull jobs — Welding, heavy lifting, sorting, cleaning hazardous sites—Optimus takes the risk so people don’t have to. •24/7 productivity — No fatigue, no breaks, no unions—constant output that scales with demand. •Home & care applications — Helping the elderly, assisting with disabilities, or handling household chores—turning science fiction into everyday reality. •Economic multiplier — When humanoid robots become cheaper than human labor, costs collapse in manufacturing, logistics, agriculture, and services—unlocking massive productivity gains and lower prices for everyone. From first walking demos to factory trials, Optimus is progressing faster than most realize. It’s the physical embodiment of Tesla’s AI + robotics vision: a world where physical work is abundant, safe, and optional. Which Optimus application excites you most—factory scaling, elder care, or seeing it cook breakfast? The age of humanoid helpers is closer than you think. 🤖⚡🚀

Tesla Owners Silicon Valley

45,847 Aufrufe • vor 6 Monaten