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CNN’s Dana Bash: “The lockdowns were done by governors. I mean, certainly, Anthony Fauci and the president had opinions, but the lockdowns were done by governors and largely because they were hearing from hospitals saying that their ICUs were overrun and they needed some help while that was happening.”...

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WATCH: The contentious Dana Bash-RFKJR interview was doomed from the start. Watch as Dana Bash opens the interview by dishonestly framing Anthony Fauci as a Trump appointee: DANA BASH: Washington was also gripped this week by a blast from the past, as former top trump health official doctor Anthony Fauci repeatedly pleaded the fifth at a congressional hearing over his handling of the covid pandemic, all while the U.S. Faces health challenges from disease outbreaks to rising health care costs. Here with me now is the Health and Human Services Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Thank you for being here. ROBERT F. KENNEDY. Jr.: Thanks for having me. BASH: Appreciate it. You have been placing nearly all the blame on the COVID pandemic and the way that the U.S. responded to it squarely with Dr. Fauci. But, of course, he worked for President Trump. Does President Trump also deserve some of the blame? KENNEDY: Well President Trump, as you recall, wanted to end the lockdowns. I think the thing that did the most damage to our country was the lockdowns, lockdowns that shut down 3.5 million businesses in our country with no due process, no just compensation, all of our churches, closed our schools, and our children are still paying the price for that. And yet we had the worst outcome of any country in the world. BASH: How so? KENNEDY: We have the highest death rate from COVID of any nation on Earth. BASH: Well, let me just say, because I have heard you say that before on the death rate from COVID. That's not accurate, because public health experts say that there is a combination of factors that went into that, higher rates of chronic illnesses, which I know you would agree with, gaps to our health care system, and misinformation about vaccines. KENNEDY: Yes, you just said what I said was inaccurate. What I said was accurate. We had the highest death rate from COVID of any... (CROSSTALK) BASH: Well, there are other countries that had higher, but go ahead. KENNEDY: You can argue about why we had that. But you -- nobody can tell you. I mean, we have -- as you say, we have the highest chronic disease burden in the world. And Anthony Fauci was mismanaging the COVID pandemic and was doing it under the Biden administration. President Trump wanted to end the lockdowns. And, in fact, in Anthony Fauci's diaries, he talks about how President Trump is calling him every day, trying to get him to reopen the country.

Jorge Bonilla

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WATCH: The full exchange wherein CNN's Dana Bash got COOKED by RFKJR BASH: So, how do you prepare then? How do you prepare for the next pandemic? I mean, that's literally part of your job now, because experts think it's going to happen within the next 10 years again. KENNEDY: Yes, I mean, I think we did virtually everything wrong the last time. BASH: So -- but what about now? KENNEDY: The principal thing that we need to do is, we need to listen to what's happening to doctors on the ground. There are 15 million frontline physicians around the world. They're mainly now connected through the Internet. We can tell on the front lines what's working and what's not. If we had listened to those doctors during the COVID pandemic, we would have saved potentially millions of lives. There were therapeutics out there that were working. There were doctors that were having no deaths from COVID and treating in some cases thousands of patients. And we weren't listening to them. Instead, we were doing the opposite. We were shutting them down. And then, Dana, the other thing that I would say is that we need to protect our constitutional rights. That is the primary obligation of our country. BASH: What does that mean? KENNEDY: Well, during COVID, we completely dismantled our constitutional rights. We began censoring people, in violation of the First Amendment. (CROSSTALK) BASH: But you're saying what not to do. I'm asking what to do. But I- but I want to talk about... KENNEDY: Well, that's something to do. That is the number one priority. We protect the Constitution. The Constitution was written. BASH: Forgive me, but you're just -- you're talking about rights, and I'm asking about a potential public health crisis that is coming. But I do want to -- let's... KENNEDY: And one of the mistakes we made in the last time was suppressing those rights so people weren't being heard. Doctors who were saying you're doing it wrong were being marginalized and vilified and... BASH: Yes, because -- because -- again, I really want to move on. But you were saying you were... KENNEDY: Of course you want to move... BASH: Yes, I do. KENNEDY: ... because you were part of the problem. BASH: No, I wasn't part of the problem. KENNEDY: There was absolute press malpractice. You weren't allowing -- your job... (CROSSTALK) BASH: Mr. Secretary, your job... KENNEDY: Your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority. BASH: OK. Yes, I am. I am. KENNEDY: And you weren't doing that. You were beating up on people who were dissenting. BASH: My job is also -- no, OK. Are you going to -- you want to sit here and attack me, or do you want to have conversations about public health? KENNEDY: Well, you're sitting here and attacking me. BASH: I'm not attacking you. I'm asking questions about how to prevent the next pandemic. KENNEDY: And let me answer the question. And I will tell you... BASH: That's what I'm trying to do. But I also don't want to use this interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true. You're talking about therapeutics. Fine. It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data. Let's talk about the measles, please, because this is something that is happening as we speak. The cases in the U.S... KENNEDY: You think the COVID vaccine protected children? BASH: I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about... KENNEDY: You have talked to scientists. Can you look -- can you show me one study... BASH: Yes, I can. I can. KENNEDY: ... that shows that children were protected by the COVID vaccine? BASH: I can tell you that there are... KENNEDY: That that vaccine did more good than harm to children? Can you show me one study that shows that? BASH: I can tell you that, when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that, because of vaccine disinformation, disinformation, there could have been 100,000 to 200,000 in the U.S. saved But because people didn't get the vaccine, that's why. (CROSSTALK) BASH: I'm not saying that it entirely -- let me finish. Let me finish. KENNEDY: You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me a single study. BASH: OK. I am not saying nonsense. I'm -- excuse me. KENNEDY: You are talking -- somebody told you. BASH: Excuse me. Let me... KENNEDY: And you -- cite me the study. What study? (CROSSTALK) BASH: No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist. I want to talk about the... KENNEDY: Cite me the study. You're talking about it. BASH: I'm not here to defend... KENNEDY: You say you have seen studies. Cite me the study. BASH: This is not productive. I am not here to defend all of the -- let me finish. KENNEDY: You're just -- you're talking nonsense. You're making assertions you can't support, and then when I call you on them, you're telling me I'm arguing with you. BASH: OK, do you want to talk about you want to talk about assertions that you can't support? I will get there in a second. Let me just say, for the record, that I am not saying that the entire way that the COVID reaction was accurate. It was a scary time, and people made mistakes, absolutely. Let me finish. KENNEDY: You were scaring people. BASH: Why are you saying that? KENNEDY: Because that was the job of CNN... BASH: OK. OK, stop. KENNEDY: ... was to put the Chyrons up about many people are dying to get people to comply. BASH: We were trying to be -- we were listening to the leaders in this country, including the president, who had a daily press conference explaining what was going on, and trying to listen. KENNEDY: Were you listening to the scientists, actually? BASH: I want to talk to -- measles. KENNEDY: Were you reading the science yourself?

Jorge Bonilla

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This was a long-overdue moment on CNN. RFK Jr. called out the network on air for helping to silence dissent during COVID. Dana Bash was getting visibly irritated, after she repeatedly tried to move the conversation away from censorship. Then he aimed his fire at Dana Bash directly: “Of course you want to move on because you were part of the problem!” KENNEDY: “We need to protect our constitutional rights. That is the primary obligation in our country.” BASH: “What does that mean?” KENNEDY: “Well, during COVID, we completely dismantled our constitutional rights. We began censoring people in violation of the First Amendment.” BASH: “You’re saying what not to do, I’m asking what to do.” KENNEDY: “Well, that’s something to do. That is the number one priority: we protect the Constitution.” BASH: “Forgive me, but you’re talking about rights and I’m asking about a potential public health crisis that is coming. But I do want to… let’s…” KENNEDY: “And one of the mistakes we made last time was suppressing those rights. So people weren’t being heard. Doctors who were saying, ‘You’re doing it wrong,’ were being marginalized and vilified.” BASH: “Again, I really want to move on…” KENNEDY: “Yeah, of course you want to move on because you were part of the problem!” BASH: “No! I wasn’t part of the problem!” KENNEDY: “There was absolute press malpractice. Your job is to have a fierce skepticism toward authority, and you weren’t doing that.” “You were beating up on people who were dissenting!”

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