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Critical Drinker: The Real Problem with the Odyssey Watch the full episode with The Critical Drinker right here on X.
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@TheCriticalDri2 Critical Drinker writes air port novels that are cheap Jason Bourne ripoffs. His one attempt at making a movie is a piece of shit sitting at 3/10 on Rotten Tomatoes. He needs to shut the fuck up about other artists and work on his craft

@TheCriticalDri2 Why on earth would you interview a slop Tuber about films. Unless you were partial to a bit of slop Tube yourself…

@TheCriticalDri2 Dude just bitches about the same shit literally every video...lol

@TheCriticalDri2 Nolan's take on the Odyssey seems to be a problem in itself, from what I've collected

@TheCriticalDri2 This is the same guy who directed Rogue Element remember this

@TheCriticalDri2 Jesus lets this go, its getting dull, move on for the love god, some people love it and some hate it, end of discussion.

@TheCriticalDri2 RIGHT WING BITCHFEST AGAINST AN ART

@TheCriticalDri2 Christofer Nolan's The odyssey sucked

Me as a former filmmaker thinks indeed that the film industry is dead. To me movies where about telling stories that make you think, reflect, inspire you or make you hopeful. That they have a message and a moral tale in them. All this is gone. If you think movies are there to just entertain you, they lost their meaning and can be put in the same bucket like going to the luna park. Indeed they started out as that and the fact that they are now going back to their origins, means they are regressing into their infancy before they die out completely. They had their time and peak and it's over now, all the signs are there. They might stay in the world as a very niche art form, but the film industry will never go back to its glory it had since the 1920ies until maybe 2010s. What killed it was the digital age, as so much other stuff was killed by this age. The music industry has the same issue.

@TheCriticalDri2 I watch critical drinker reviews, I listened to trigonometry. No interest in an hour listening to a mash up about a boring film though. Will skip this one

The Iliad gives you the man who wanted glory more than life. The Odyssey takes that man's friend, drags him through 10 years of salt water, and sets him down at home with nothing — no ship, no crew, no name, asleep, carried ashore by strangers. It was built to take the shine off. "A hero's journey with no hero" — he says it like he is landing a blow. Homer would have taken it as a fair summary. Start with the weeping. A singer at a feast sings about the war, and Odysseus pulls his cloak over his head so no one can see his face. Homer tells you what he weeps like: "a woman thrown down on her husband's body, spears in her back, hands hauling her off to be a slave". The man who burned the town, crying like the women he made. 3000 years ago the poet put the sack of Troy inside the man who sacked it and let it eat him alive. Nobody needed Vietnam for that. Then the men. Homer settles them in the opening lines, before a single thing has happened. They died by their own doing. They ate the Sun's cattle and Zeus sank the ship for it. The song tells you at the door that the crew is lost and their captain cannot stop it. He wants them home. It does not matter what he wants. They are stupid on their own time and they die on their own account, and the whole long middle of the book is a man learning that wanting it badly enough was never going to be enough. The book is built on a man who cannot save anyone. That was the job from the first line. Then the "feeling & emotional engagement" that is supposed to be missing. The dog is Homer's dog. Twenty years old, lying in the muck and the ticks, thrown out to die by the house that raised him. He lifts his head. He knows him. He dies. It is the only time in the whole poem that someone knows Odysseus and he cannot answer, and he turns away and wipes his eyes so no one sees him do it. Everything else in that house is lies and blades and waiting. The dog is the last clean thing in the story, and he wags his tail and he goes. And the book sits whole inside one scene, which your own ad break read out while the guest was still saying "as I understand it." A goddess offers him life without end. He turns it down for a mortal life, a wife who has aged, and a home that might not want him back. That is a man laying down every claim to be more than a man. That is the arc closing. The rule bends where it suits. Jackson took the brother written to stand where his brother fell, and made him fall too — and that is trimming, and the heart of it survives. Nolan moves Odysseus and the meaning is gone forever. One change is craft, the other is ruin, and the only thing sorting them is which film he had already made up his mind about. Then the ledger. He has made a whole video about a film he calls forgettable. He has come on a show and given it an hour. He raised the hate storm himself before anyone asked him to. His word on it is "meh," and he liked that word enough to use it twice. He says he will never watch it again and never think about it again, and then complains, out loud, that the questions are making him think about it. That is a great deal of not thinking about a film. And there is the bigger thing. For an hour these men sit and hand down what is good, what is dead, what art is for, why Hollywood fell, why the actors went soft, what the old Greeks believed about their own gods, whether a kind man can make anything worth keeping. They tell you great work wants risk in it. Hard lives. Friction. A bit of the bastard. They tell you this from a soft chair, between a college ad and a VPN ad, having risked nothing whatsoever. All that weighing and sorting, and nothing underneath it. No trade. No craft. No years at the thing itself. And the one moment the hour brushes against something a listener could go and check for himself, out of a book anyone can buy, it turns out they took it on trust from someone else. He asks the people who call the film great: "how many movies have you watched, man?" Fair question. How many books have you read?

@TheCriticalDri2 Dude, woke is not gone. And because of the Odyssey BS they're going to double down.

@TheCriticalDri2 Bunch of fags

@TheCriticalDri2 Brilliant interview, Will!

@TheCriticalDri2 I've watched multiple TV Series on the Critical Drinker's recommendation and hated them. His reviews were entertaining yet wildly unreliable.

@TheCriticalDri2 Tell mauler to write better scripts and stfu they make excuses when the obsession director is a YouTuber who knew how to actually direct and write. So whats Drinker and Mauler fucking issue

@TheCriticalDri2 Has Hollywood learned its lesson? Yes, let Christopher Nolan do whatever he wants.

@TheCriticalDri2 I don't think you are giving Top Gun: Maverick enough credit for the impact it made on Hollywood and the moviegoers in total.

@TheCriticalDri2 Good interview.

@TheCriticalDri2 #TheOdyssey is nada but a sad and dreary ripoff of #ApocalypseNow, but astronomically worse in every sense of it; go watch the latter instead

@TheCriticalDri2 guy is bitter his fuking movie was bullshit

@TheCriticalDri2 You are the guy in the pub these days!!! Obsession... Hail Mary... give me a fucking break!!! I saw two good movies in the last years, "Tuner" and "Knox goes away", and a very funny one "The Greatest Beer Run Ever".

@TheCriticalDri2 Drinker is one of my favorite people

@TheCriticalDri2 honestly, Nolan knew what he was doing with the baiting of elliot page..

@TheCriticalDri2 The low-IQ MAGAtard problem with the Odyseey is that they're fucking stupid. That's pretty much it.

@TheCriticalDri2 Apologize for not subscribing on youtube. I don't and won't have a gmail/google account for any reason. Google is evil.

@TheCriticalDri2 ALL HIS MEN DIE?!? Where’s the spoilers warning?!? 😏

@TheCriticalDri2 Good interview. What I would say is that this is a Hollywood problem. Films from South Korea, mainland Europe, and other parts of the world are often far more creatively superior than those from Hollywood. Even the American independent film scene is very creative right now.

@TheCriticalDri2 "Who is this imposter? Where are the sunglasses and Jack Daniels..." -The Milk Man #mobsters #dailymobster #noir #cinematic #graphicnovel #IndieArtist #comic #comicart #cg

@TheCriticalDri2 It’s shiite

@TheCriticalDri2 Hey Trigs, where is the episode that a researcher spoke about Snapchat and Roblox being grooming spots on the Internet? She was incredibly knowledgeable and I've tried to forward it recently but it's gone?

@TheCriticalDri2 Did this week's openbar get taken down cause of Children of Blood Bone trailer? I wanted to see the Spider-Man discussion post watching it

@TheCriticalDri2 Just watched. Great interview.


