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Dan Lebatard breaks down the difference of the Celtics drafting Tatum and Brown early in the draft vs the Heat drafting Bam and Herro when discussing tanking 👀 “We got Jaylen Brown and Tatum. These are picks at anytime the skill set the scouts say ‘oh that’s the best... show more
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Little bit of revisionist history on Brown there. Many thought the Celtics reached for him.
Jaylen was a project that improved his game every year. Year 10 and it's his best season yet
Guys yall are way too caught up in the “Celtics didnt tank”. We all know this. He’s just using them as examples on how the Celtics have passed the Heat due to the opportunity to draft high up to get Tatum and brown who turned into all nba players vs the Heat always having to draft 10-20 range which lead to drafting players with limited ceilings unless you get extremely lucky. They never say the Celtics tanked
Best players in league not in order. Draft slot Jokic 2nd rd Wemby 1 Giannis 15 Edwards 1 SGA 11 Tatum 3 Lebron 1 Steph 7 Harden 3 Luka 3 KD 2 Brown 3 Brunson 2nd rd Embiid 3 Cade 1 Mitchell 13 Kawhi 15
How can you compare top 3 picks to teen picks?
Well the topic was basically how the Heat don’t tank and so usually they pick anywhere from 10-20 every year vs getting one of those top 5 picks where the true franchise changing players usually are at and he used Tatum and Brown as examples
@AJdaFoodMonster I know they didn’t tank…. The topic was the Heat never tanking. They mentioned Boston didn’t tank in the show. He just used Tatum and brown as an example because Tatum and Bam were in the same draft class
What point is he trying to make? Tatum and brown were not sure things whatsoever, plenty of top 3 players become busts. The last time the heat had a top pick they took Michael Beasley at 2
Among all stars / best players in the league: SGA: pick 11 Kawhi: 15 Jokic: 41 Curry: 7 Brunson: 33 Giannis: 15 Mitchell: 13 Avdija: 9 Booker: 13 Siakam: 27 Haliburton: 12 J. Johnson: 20 Sengun: 16 Maxey: 21 I could go on. Tanking is for losers
The issue is heat still think these type players will somehow break the norm.
The whole quote is misleading though because the Celtics got both via trade and not tanking. They just traded their aging stars before they were ready to retire, rebuilt their team as much as they could, and by the time they drafted Brown and Tatum they were respectable
Those were the nets picks, the Celtics weren’t tanking at the time they drafted them. They made the playoffs.
The problem with the FO is they think Edrice is on their level.
@BasedHighKing He's too high on Jaylen but correct about Tatum
Water is Wet Dan
Brown was 7-9 on most mock drafts in 2016 and most people had Josh Jackson and Fox ahead of Tatum in 2017. And we honestly would’ve got Herro too if Pat Riley wouldn’t have stole him a pick before. It’s all about how fucking good Danny Ainge was at his job. Heat management ass
When Ainge drafted Brown at 3, people thought he was crazy. Including myself.
Celtics organization improved after the Big 3 era in building organizational structure that has proven to being great at recruiting and developing players and coaches. Tatum and Brown were not big names going into the draft, especially Tatum. Thank you Danny Ainge!!
What is he saying
The point of this is that we clearly have chosen a path where we would rather compete in the play in then have a chance at guys like Dybansta or Darryn Peterson, and it's bit us in the ass, Pat will never tank and it's a problem.
Yup this is facts
I would like the jury to understand that the Celtics were literally in the playoffs and not tanking. They got those 2 high picks because of a dumbass trade the Nets made years prior with the Celtics. Also Jaylen was viewed as a huuuge stretch at 3 at the time
The Heat took Justise Winslow at 10 and acted like they were smarter than everyone until he got on the court 🤣 and let’s not forget Beasley. If they had actually hit that pick the Heatles win a lot more.
Bam Adebayo was a top 10 prospect at the beginning of the college season. He dropped because of how limited Calipari used him.
His point seems to be ceiling matter and higher draft picks typically yield higher ceiling. I would add Bam and Brown have both well over shot their projected ceilings at the time of the draft.
Yea look at the heat’s last top five. It was Dwyane Wade. He has a point.
It’s the Spo system that he runs. He micromanages players. He need to teach them how to think fast and on their feet to take advantage and create advantages individually and as a unit.
To summarize yes you get better players at the top of the draft , to follow up because he can’t hurt the Arison’s feelings . Pat Riley has blown up the team multiple times , because he knew . Ever since Nepo baby took over and it’s a committee we believe in this team !
Shit I forgot about that Bam block on Tatum. That was legit.
Wait til Dan finds out that those were Nets picks not Celtic picks So I guess moral of the story is trade ur old washed players to a desperate franchise
Why is this a hot take?? Herro is an average player, Bam is an Average, above average defender.
The Celtics got 2 top picks from 2 VERY bad teams at the time in Brooklyn Nets and Sacramento Kings. So no they didn’t tank, they had no reason to as they had the top picks of 2 teams who weren’t making the playoffs. And back then Brooklyn was REALLY bad, somehow worse than now.
Ok but don’t forget that Gupta and ball drafted before Tatum and Simmons and Ingram drafted before brown.
It all started to go downhill with the Justise Winslow pick. Pat refused what could have been Brown, Tatum and more.
Heat have been in weird place for a while now. I’m not sure how they get better
Spoken like a guy from Miami
Tone!
