Darling Harbour, Sydney. Basically Vancouver's False Creek, if False Creek were immensely vibrant and lined with waterfront restaurants and attractions. What False Creek should have been.

Dude this looks exactly how false creek does. Imo I’d take false creek over this

What’s wrong with False Creek? They had a vision 40 years ago and executed it well. This looks a little concrete heavy.

False Creek, especially the older parts near Granville Island, is intimate, even romantic, a meandering path with little parks, ponds, play areas, private gardens and terraced homes. Your counter proposal is a dull boardwalk lined by glassy behemoths. Coal Harbour already exists.

What it could still be with baseball stadium on south end of Cambie Bridge complete with commercial/residential surroundings.

Bro if you type in Vancouver, literally the first thing you are shown is the iconic false creek… this looks more of a comparison to waterfront and coal harbour than which are again more iconic than these buildings

i mean that looks exactly like canada place- waterfront, sterile, devoid of character, built for tourists, our false creek 10 x this at least it has some character LOL.

I was at Craft and Tap & Barrel on False Creek last week. Bridges, Sandbar and Dockside are also on it. You need to get out more, Ken.

Yes...... Because a few restaurants here and there is the exact same as an area with a long continuous restaurant row, plus major attractions. Granville Island is the only true bright spot in the kms long inner harbour we call False Creek.

You might as well compare it to Canada Place and the Convention Centre.

No, lol. That's not comparable at all.

It has a closer history with Vancouver Harbour. They were once both major industrial working shipyards, railway exchanges, factories, mills, hotels adjacent to the city centre. You seem to be making an apples and oranges comparison to make a selective false argument.

Similar industrial history doesn't automatically make Canada Place the better comparison. False Creek was also heavily industrial, too. There was a blank slate right after Expo that wasn't bogged down by history. I was obviously comparing the places as they exist today: Darling Harbour and False Creek are both sheltered, downtown inlets surrounded by redeveloped mixed-use waterfronts. Canada Place and the convention centre form a relatively compact, linear precinct. You're the one turning this into an apple vs. oranges comparison. There are similarities between all three, but that doesn't negate the obvious False Creek comparison or the vast difference. Naming a handful of scattered restaurants only proves my point: False Creek has nothing resembling Darling Harbour's continuous concentration of waterfront restaurants and major attractions between Bangeroo and the W, as well as on the other side of the inlet.

Pyrmont, Blackwattle Bay, Rozelle Bay, White Bay, Johnstons Bay is a better parallel to False Creek than the tiny little bit of waterway known as Darling Harbour. You're comparing Sydney's Central Business District to False Creek. Once again: you're making a false comparison.

Context does matter, which is why this attempt to impose a one-to-one map onto two different cities doesn't work. North False Creek is not "removed" from the Downtown Vancouver peninsula. It forms its south shore, and Northeast False Creek is part of downtown. Vancouver's official CBD or office core around Burrard occupies only a small portion of the downtown peninsula. Darling Harbour likewise sits along the western edge of Sydney's overall Downtown peninsula and much larger CBD area spanning the peninsula, but it is not synonymous with "Sydney's CBD." More importantly, this fixation on proximity to the official CBD area is a false distinction. I was comparing two former industrial urban inlets in the city centre whose shorelines were substantially redeveloped for public and mixed uses, and the dramatically different levels of restaurants, attractions, and activities they now support. That comparison doesn't depend on identical dimensions or their precise distance from a cluster of office towers. It doesn't depend on being within or next to an official CBD area. This is also a criticism of past policy choices that overwhelmingly focused on residential uses, even for the ground level of highly prominent public spaces like the seawall. Those bays may or may not offer another valid comparison to parts of False Creek, but urban places can have multiple parallels. That doesn't invalidate mine. Pyrmont, meanwhile, is most certainly not comparable to Granville Island. If context matters, that is a far shakier comparison. Anyway, agree to disagree! :) I'm going to be way too old by the time Vancouver becomes a bit closer to what Sydney is today.

But we need dentists and banks at street level

I mean if Concord Pacific would develop something on the property they hold by the stadium and the derelict casino were turned into something... Greedy real estate developers and the political cowardice to tax them into selling or making something is to blame for so much of this.

Plaza of nations is a huge missed opportunity for vancouver. Not sure why they haven't developed that area, it's a ghost town there.

The derelict vessel vibe we have now is quite appealing if you ask me.

False creek looks better to me

can they swim in that water?

No. Similar water quality issues from past industrial uses and sewage runoff. And sharks.

False Creek is perfectly fine. And relaxing mostly. Thats the LEAST of Vancouver problems

If only the False Creek area didn't smell like sewage for parts of the year, I may go there more often

Fix your East Side first. Disgusting driving by Main and Hastings every morning.

@rcamcole You do know that Sydney is several times larger than vancouver. Do you?

@RanRinBC Didn’t see any crackhead so better than Vancouver

Nothing wrong with how False Creek has developed since Expo86. What makes it so appealing is the fact that both sides of False Creek connects with the main downtown seawall to make it the longest continuous seawall in the world at 28 km...

It was a good decision made back in the 70's to build housing on the south shore.

Typical. Always tell people that your city is the best. Go on a trip, realize your city is not the best.

False creek is perfect the way it is. Don’t need commercialized garbage

False creek is literally surrounded by parks, and waterfront attractions what are you talking about? schizo

It's nicer than #Vancouver in spite of Sydney also having to deal with the #realestate being ruined for everyone else by Billionaires from #China, back to the 80s. Our problem now is horribly inpet & corrupt govts, starting with #MarkCarney who gives OUR tax money to Developers!

No one cares what tasteless chinks think

They can still change this. Lots of older cheaply built residential buildings that I can see needing replaced in 20 years.

Let's not forget @Barangaroo Australia 🇦🇺 Sydney Harbour @CityofVancouver After #Expo86Vcr 🇨🇦 What happened to Vancouver ? 👀 🍁 Oh dear 😢 Develop. Speculate. Promises. 40 years ago #ExpoDream 🌈 Too bad Canada Left the 184 member @bieparis 🌐 😢

oh shut up, it’s always grass is greener, false creek is just as beautiful, has granville island for the vibrancy, bars and restaurants and has mountain views unlike sydney

Yep I thought the same whenever I'm in Sydney.

I still can't get over how the Creekside Community Centre is able run dragon boating groups of people who row willingly and happily in that water.

It also helps when you've got one of the world's top ten tourist attractions as part of the Harbour . . . More people means more services, etc.

False creek should have remained a logging hub. In a better, less globalized, less cucked vancouver.

The ugly fences are there because a drunk Irishman unfortunately fell in and drowned over a decade ago. A temporary fence is the solution to every problem in Sydney.

I’m glad you didn’t get to decide as False Creek is way more beautiful