Dave Smith Is Out There Spreading Demonstrably Untrue “Facts”

@Drinkin_Bros "It's demonstrably untrue" Source: My mouth

Wolfowitz doctrine was authored in 1991 by an Afghan immigrant, Zalmay Khalilzad, and Scooter Libby. Wolfowitz booed by Israelis for championing Palestinian plight. Powell’s CoS states clearly that Israel wanted us to go after Iran, which we never did. Etc. Demonstrably untrue, demonstrated.

@tsidpod @Drinkin_Bros The fact that Israel wanted the US to go after Iran is not a reason to say that Israel did not goad the US to attack Iraq. Once the US told Israel they would take on Iran next (i.e. after Iraq) the Israelis were happy. Everyone thought that 2003 invasion of Iraq would be easy.

@tsidpod @Drinkin_Bros Yes it is, since they simultaneously said not to invade Iraq. You didn’t even listen to the debate being referenced so be quiet.

@tsidpod @Drinkin_Bros Netanyahu was promoting it in 2002.

@tsidpod @Drinkin_Bros 10 years after it was written by 2 Americans and a Muslim on behalf of a man who plainly stated his support of a Palestinian state. Again, Powell’s CoS was quite clear that Israel wanted Iran, not Iraq, and the disaster we created shows they were correct and neocons were wrong.

@tsidpod @Drinkin_Bros So you think the US should have invaded Iran in 2003? What had Iran done to the US?

@tsidpod @Drinkin_Bros No, and neither did Israel, just that they were the bigger enemy.

@Drinkin_Bros Dan, then offer a counterpoint. It would be nice if took on the argument

Humbly, you should just watch the ep with Coleman Hughes. He's quite a bit better at debating this (and other) issues than I am. The link is in the comments. I also don't like/dislike either of these guys, I don't know them. It's just an observation about how much wrong information can be circulated before someone finally corrects it. Not Dave's fault aside from being wrong.

@propagate_self @Drinkin_Bros Coleman didn’t prove much and agreed to enough that I would still side with Dave. It was definitely the best debate on the topic I’ve heard. I appreciate you admitting Dave isn’t bad faith. I can at least respect someone with that behavior unlike many.

@propagate_self @Drinkin_Bros There are bad faith actors, he definitely isn't one of them. This wasn't about him, it's about how uninformed all these podcast bros are.

@propagate_self @Drinkin_Bros So you think Scott Horton is uninformed? He definitely shares this opinion.

I think his conclusion is clearly wrong, but no one could call him uninformed. That's the point of this conversation, just knowing a lot of facts doesn't make your conclusion correct, and even if it's partially correct focusing on a single part of an explanation distorts reality.

@propagate_self @Drinkin_Bros AIPAC is definitely guilty of heavy lobbying to our congress. It’s clear as day. Just watch Netanyahu getting a standing ovation from both sides of Congress for 4 minutes straight, unlike any sitting president in my life. Coleman quotes the website with the numbers.

@propagate_self @Drinkin_Bros There's no question about that. And CAIR financed a mosque at ground zero. I'd prefer no foreign influence. We're the leaders of the world, we should be dictating not be lobbied IMO.

@Drinkin_Bros I’ll just never understand why so many Americans spend so much of their time trying to argue in the margins about why we should acquiesce to Israel without question.

@Drinkin_Bros Do people actually talk about that? My friends don't give a shit about Israel one way or another for the most part.

@Based_AFSpect8r @Drinkin_Bros $3+ billion in US tax dollars are sent to Israel every year. Why? They don't need the money or resources, they could buy them for bucks sakes. That's the number one reason why people cant stand Israel.

@Based_AFSpect8r @Drinkin_Bros And we train Saudi and Qatari pilots and sell them each $10B worth of shit a year at discounted rates. The number one reason people can't stand Israel, then, is a stupid reason.

@Based_AFSpect8r @Drinkin_Bros Also you didnt even attempt to explain why $3+ billion is sent to Israel? Must be poor destitute people that need handouts?

@Based_AFSpect8r @Drinkin_Bros We pay them for intelligence and to maintain some of our weapons systems. I’m not a fan, either.

@Drinkin_Bros Hey Dan how many members of congress take money from the Israel lobby and what's the average amount per year?

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@Drinkin_Bros What you said is Demonstrably Untrue

@Drinkin_Bros Explain the amount of "dual citizenship" with Israel, in office. Unit 8200 in full effect.

@Drinkin_Bros I believe dual citizenship should be disqualifying for government service.

@DanHollaway @Drinkin_Bros China does have quite a bit of governmental influence in Canadastan.

@Drinkin_Bros Why did we go to war with Iraq?

@Drinkin_Bros What changed?

@Drinkin_Bros Don’t worry boomers like you will soon be an afterthought.

@willchamberlain @Drinkin_Bros I can imagine that accepting the reality of ZOG is probably harder for a GWOT vet than anyone else. I think if you had a respectful interaction with Dave or Scott Horton, you might have your eyes opened.

I think this is salient as well. I'm not suggesting he doesn't take hard interviews, that is also demonstrably untrue.

I respect both of you for some of the same but mostly different reasons a great deal. I’d love to see a debate between you too bro. You’ve helped me through a lot of issues and clarified a ton throughout the years. @ComicDaveSmith has been relentless in just pushing back against what he believes and I believe hurts us as Americans. A conversation between you too I think would be highly highly valuable and I would suspect would be one of the most level headed, respectful debates as I can’t see either of you flying off at each other or resorting to bull shit name calling or some of the other things so many of these debates lead to. I say, send it. 🤘🏻🇺🇸

@Drinkin_Bros @ComicDaveSmith I think Dave's intentions are pure. I don't think he's a bad actor, I just think he's wrong and the people he's friends with don't know enough about the issue to correct him.

@Iwendtster @Drinkin_Bros @ComicDaveSmith To act like AIPAC is “just like everyone else” is wildly dishonest. The 3rd largest PAC is directly influenced by a foreign country. No other foreign country’s lobbyists spend remotely close to AIPAC

Where are you getting this information? The largest PAC expenditures in the 24 election are as follows: Make America Great Again Inc — $376,948,611 WinSenate PAC — $311,285,447 Senate Leadership Fund — $211,092,912 America PAC (Texas) — $171,961,130 Preserve America PAC — $112,321,876 Right for America — $69,583,226 American Crossroads — $60,267,472 Defend American Jobs — $57,809,162 Keystone Renewal PAC — $54,394,973 Win It Back PAC — $53,709,231 LCV Victory Fund — $46,682,823 Restoration PAC — $42,747,106 Fairshake PAC — $40,661,816 United Democracy Project — $37,860,200 Never Back Down Inc — $37,764,406 Protect Progress — $34,535,896 Last Best Place PAC — $33,816,221 Republican Accountability PAC — $33,776,579 Black PAC — $28,193,090 Maryland’s Future — $27,014,714

@Iwendtster @Drinkin_Bros @ComicDaveSmith Link below. So what foreign country spends the most on lobbying behind AIPAC? Let’s compare since they all have the same influence, according to you.

@Iwendtster @Drinkin_Bros @ComicDaveSmith Isn't it a crime for a domestic lobbying org to take foreign money?

@wildcats399 @Iwendtster @Drinkin_Bros @ComicDaveSmith Calling AIPAC a “domestic” lobbying org is the most dishonest take I’ve seen on here today

@wildcats399 @Iwendtster @Drinkin_Bros @ComicDaveSmith That’s what it is. If they accept foreign money and don’t register with FARA, they can be prosecuted and I’d support that.

@Drinkin_Bros Tag Dave. Let's see this debate! I like Dave but I've been thinking the same thing

@Drinkin_Bros He already got smoked in a debate with Coleman Hughes. No need to beat a dead horse or piggy back for clicks. Watch their episode.

@YesterdayPariah @Drinkin_Bros They both had L's and W's. Hardly a smoking by either of them. Was a better faith than usual debate on this subject.

@YesterdayPariah @Drinkin_Bros I don’t think Dave ever argues in bad faith.

@YesterdayPariah @Drinkin_Bros Agreed, it's usually his opponents. Coleman was an exception.

@YesterdayPariah @Drinkin_Bros Agree. I think the conversation with Douglas would be better if Joe wasn’t present.

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@Drinkin_Bros Then why did we go to Iraq? It wasn’t because of weapons of mass destruction. Please enlighten us all.

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@Drinkin_Bros He hasn't gone unchecked, he's debated dozens of people and every one of them comes away looking like a fool. Why is @DanHollaway lying about @ComicDaveSmith going "unchecked?"

@Drinkin_Bros Phuck off, phaggot. We don’t believe the hasbara anymore.

@Drinkin_Bros They don’t control our government but our foreign policy.

@Drinkin_Bros Since when? Draw a straight line to where our foreign policy begun being helpful for Israel at large. Curious about this statement and its underlying support.

@Drinkin_Bros The start was after WW2. Jews escaping and in the USSR were assets of US intelligence. So policy was pro Israel to get and keep assets. And Israel was filling up with European Jews they were seen as an ally to the west. Today American foreign policy is completely Zionist.

@Drinkin_Bros Ah that’s why we recruited all those literal Nazi scientists.

@Drinkin_Bros Right. It’s not a moral question. Our governments foreign policy has nothing to do with right and wrong.

@Drinkin_Bros Expand on that.

@Drinkin_Bros And here you are, spreading lies. Unchecked. GTFOH

@Drinkin_Bros so this clip is to burn dave? u say he goes unchecked on big platforms(he does other stuff and debates people like piers morgan) and u say he says nothing but lies. so please tell where did he lie. and he already debunked the whole coleman hughes video with gotcha moment.

@Drinkin_Bros It's not true that Israel lobbies are gov't just like every other foreign government. Foreign lobbyists have to register under the FARA act, only AIPAC is allowed to consider itself a domestic.

@Drinkin_Bros Because its members and donors are US citizens. If they weren’t, that would be a crime.

@Drinkin_Bros Well aware of this, I just think your framing of it is disingenuous. Because it's not the same as foreign influence from other countries.

@Drinkin_Bros So is CAIR. I don’t like it, either, but it’s not unique to Israel. There should be no foreign lobbying here. Trump was happy to call Canada out for it.

@Drinkin_Bros This is honestly nuts that you're comparing CAIR to AIPAC lol. You have to be banking on people being ignorant, CAIR holds little to know sway. AIPAC is also specifically stated to encourage Israeli relations, it's not a religious lobby group for Jews.

@Drinkin_Bros Says the facts are untrue but provides 0 evidence to back it up. Fuck you.

@Drinkin_Bros into the weeds they go... Facts apparently hurt

@Drinkin_Bros You are godless zionist ✡️ trash

how would you know? you give opinions like anyone else. people aren't stupid, numb nuts. I have a story for you that explains this incessant need to cover for and protect Israhell. It's involves subversion, bribery, and blackmail. Which continues today. It involves blood cultists and their cult posing as a historical group of people so they could get and retain support for the last 125yrs from Americans (predominantly evangelicals). This issue is much more complex than one thinks and the fraud and subversion is much larger than one assumes.

@Drinkin_Bros You are such a liar. And you keep posting the Coleman Hughes conversation as if Dave lost a debate. That's further from the truth and you're using that for a cop out you disingenuous fool

@Drinkin_Bros Israel doesn't lobby like other countries. Other countries are registered with FARA, all of them lobbying, except for Israel. They have fought for decades to keep their lobbying as secret as possible. If youbdidnt know or understand this then your opinion is invalid.

@Drinkin_Bros Did your mom take Tylenol when she was pregnant?

@Drinkin_Bros You are just an idiot. Dave has debated any and everyone who disagrees. Josh Hammer twice Dennis Prager Laura Loomer Coleman Hughes And there's many more

@Drinkin_Bros This guys a fucking retard with his homosexual podcast. Dave smith mogs you

@Drinkin_Bros If Dave Smith is making statements that are "demonstrably" untrue, why don't you demonstrate the untruthfulness? I'll wait.

@Drinkin_Bros oh Dan you dumb fook... Dave would smoke you any day anytime any where oh Dan the $7000 check crook....