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.David Deutsch: Creativity is disobedience. By not recognizing that, by suppressing disobedience, you’re suppressing creativity—always. Apart from mass murderers or something. But even then, it’s only the actions of criminals that have to be suppressed. Their ideas are best dealt with in non-violent ways. So we need to make...

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@DavidDeutschOxf “unless they’re ideas about violence, intolerance, or suppressing the growth of knowledge.” This is the flaw in the mechanism. These words are always perverted to mean whatever suits those in power.

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@DavidDeutschOxf Many times there are ideas which are very creative and it's execution is harsh but for few and beneficial for many. Those ideas should be executed

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@DavidDeutschOxf When we don't believe in current explanation of a problem. We create new knowledge

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@DavidDeutschOxf Either they have kompromat on Deutsch (like for sure will find they do for some scientists in Epstein's circle) or he's dishonest. Because the only alternative is that he just believes everything the IDF says, and that's telling of somebody real mental level.

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@DavidDeutschOxf I'm sure the next noble winner will be. @DavidDeutschOxf

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@DavidDeutschOxf Ideas alone are not harmful, our instincts are harmful. We can encourage intelectuals to act all we want but in reality, men of action are men of instinct. It's the way nature made us, we need to level up as a species By this I mean, we need gene editing

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@DavidDeutschOxf This is why we at @suzanne_polis advocate a serious discussion of alternatives to mass public schooling, where obedience and conformity are programmed into students

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@DavidDeutschOxf That was a great job by you. Seen some interesting interviews of David Deutsch - but this one stands out beyond the form of questions and answers. This helps to get through the bottleneck faster to understand his ideas.

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.Naval: You define wealth in a beautiful way. You talk about wealth as a set of physical transformations that we can affect. So as a society it becomes very clear that knowledge leads directly to wealth creation for everybody. A given individual can obviously affect physical transformations proportional to the resources available to them—but much more proportional to the knowledge available to them. Knowledge is a huge force multiplier. You then define resources as the thing that you combine with knowledge to create wealth. New knowledge allows you to use new things as resources and discard old things that maybe we’re running out of. There are lots of examples of how we’ve done that in the past. For example, in energy we’ve gone from wood to coal to oil to nuclear. But then people say, “Now we’re out of ideas. Now we’re caught up. Now we’re done. There aren’t going to be new ideas, and now we have to freeze the frame and conserve what we have.” The counter to that is, “No, we’ll create new knowledge and have new resources. Don’t worry about the old ones.” Well they say, “If you’re going to have new resources, if you can’t think of them now, it’s not real.” This now gets into the realm of people demanding that if you’re going to claim that new knowledge will be created, you have to name that knowledge now. Otherwise it’s not real. But that seems like a Catch-22. David Deutsch: It does, and it’s a bad argument. I don’t want to claim that the knowledge will be created. We’re fallible; we may not create it. We may destroy ourselves. We may miss the solution that’s right under our nose, so that when the snailiens come from another galaxy and look at us, they’ll say, “How can it possibly be that they failed to do so-and-so when it was right in front of them?” That could happen. I can’t prove or argue that it won’t happen. What I always argue, though, is that we have what it takes. We have everything that it takes to achieve that. If we don’t, it’ll be because of bad choices we have made, not because of constraints imposed on us by the planet or the solar system. Naval: It will be by anti-rational memes that restrict the creation of knowledge and the growth of knowledge. David Deutsch: Maybe. Or maybe it’ll be by well-intentioned errors, which nobody could see why they were errors. Again, it doesn’t take malevolence to make mistakes. Mistakes are the normal condition of humans. All we can do is try to find them. Maybe not destroying the means of correcting errors is the heart of morality; because if there is no way of correcting errors, then sooner or later one of those will get us. Naval: Don’t destroy the means of error correction is the base of morality. I love that. I think about places like North Korea where you can’t have elections and a revolution is very difficult because the gang in charge is armed to the teeth and they’ve destroyed the means of political error correction for a long time. That is a case where humanity is trapped in a local minimum, and it’s very hard to climb out of that hole. If too much of the world falls into that mindset, then we as a species may just stagnate because we’ve lost our biggest advantage. We’ve lost our biggest discovery, which was the ability to make new discoveries.

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