"Declarative code compiles to imperative code that's hard to debug, I'm not sure we're in a better place now than we were with jQuery" ThePrimeagen

I built TodoMVC in < 200 lines of code Then with lit-html it's even less lines of code with efficient DOM updates using simple template literals

I agree

@ThePrimeagen You don't debug assembly very often, so why is it relevant if the code is doing another compile pass? Assuming the semantics are preserved it just doesn't matter

@ThePrimeagen you guys moved away from jquery?

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@ThePrimeagen New projects I use vanilla js. It’s just the same effort for much less heavy, debug right in the browser with nothing between me and the code and no quirks to cover up. Also using @statelyai xstate for more complex

@ThePrimeagen I made with just a vanilla JS class and methods. In the end, all of these things have to use vanilla JS at the bottom so why not start there to make something simple and reusable? [note, i've not updated it in two years, there's a few minor issues]

@ThePrimeagen Awesome!! 🙌

@ThePrimeagen UI peaked in Highschool. When Bootstrap was what everyone was talking about.

@ThePrimeagen I find React + TypeScript to be a nice sweet spot.

@ThePrimeagen What he said must have gone right over your head.