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.Devin Dwyer: "Is it possible there's a secret program here that you just don't know about?" Jon Kosloski: "(laughs) Anything's possible." Full ABC News interview with Director of Parody of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, Jon Kosloski. I think Dwyer did well. Making sure to include non-human intelligence in...

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Curious Explorer1 年前

I think it was a great story. I realize AARO is not popular and people want more. It seems like we’re back to 2021 in terms of mainstream tone, but maybe that needs to happen to clear out all the damage Jake Sullivan, Kathleen Hicks, Sean Kirkpatrick, Sue Gough, and Tim Phillips did.

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ksminnovation1 年前

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Clark Harrison1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO God this segment just pisses me off so much. It’s so biased and cherry picked

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LORD LUDACRIS1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO There is no secret ufo program (involving aliens or NHI)

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Ed1 年前

“… promising radical transparency across the board”. Anyone who still believes that hasn’t been paying attention. Especially when it comes to UFO’s, the very first opportunity they had to be transparent was to do what they promised and tell us what the drones were. Trump even promised to tell us “exactly” what they were, and said it was “ridiculous” they weren’t. Yet the one and only time they addressed it at the first press briefing, as a throw away at the end, they gave us the same non-answer as they did during the Biden administration! The Epstein bullshit is even more insane, because Pam Bondi directly gaslit people in a way that actually made her look bad! They’re so committed to NOT being transparent that they performed a PSYOP on us that involved intentionally making themselves look dishonest! There is no logical explanations for their actions other than that. And there’s other examples as well. Why make a big deal about the gold at Fort Knox, and then not follow up? Why has RFK apparently shown absolutely no obvious interest in the JFK files? Why did Kash Patel tell us what he would do “day 1” and express his beliefs in interviews even after the election that he first denied in the confirmation hearing, and then after he got in? Apparently Epstein obviously killed himself now. No funny business at all, right? Bongino at least can say he hadn’t seen the files before he got in there, but Kash literally told us he’d already seen the Epstein files and the JFK files! Now suddenly he believes the official narrative. He didn’t NEED to say any of these things he believed or what was going to do, but he did. Just like Pam Bondi didn’t need to tell everyone she had the Epstein files “on her desk” and they were bad, when she KNEW in a couple of days eveyone would know she didn’t. But she also didn’t need to engineer a media presss moment giving Conservative MAGA influencers those “Epstein binders” as if they were proud of being transparent, when the front page of that very binder is literally a copy of a letter supposedly from Pam to Kash saying she doesn’t have the files! And where the rest of binder literally contained LESS information than what was already released! … What I realized though is that this PSYOP of demoralization by gaslighting JUST SO HAPPENS to be exactly what was happening in the UFO space. Lue Elizondo is not stupid enough make these “mistakes”, nor is the accusation that he is a “grifter” adequate an explanation either. And he’s not the only one. The insane overly hyped reaction to the announcement of the Jake Barbe’s Coulthart interview, “the egg” video, the embarrassing Skywatcher stuff, the increasingly extreme claims by various people (old and new). Elizondo’s PSYOP is like the Trump administration/appointees PSYOP. It is to INTENTIONALLY make themselves look bad. Not because the goal is to just make themselves look bad, but because the goal is to demoralize us by gaslighting us. Look at the response to the Trump press briefing on the drones by the “UFO Caucasus”. People like Luna literally gaslit us by cheering it on as excellent example of transparency! They didn’t NEED to do that either!! Elizondo not only lied, he didn’t just do it once, there is no other explanation other than he lied! There is no logical charitable explanation for what he did where he didn’t lie! It’s even worse than it looks, because every time he’s responsed to it he’s made it 10x worse! Because it’s not that they’re lying because they want to fool us, because no sane semi-intelligent person would ever think this strategy is a good idea. They’re lying AND THEY WANT US TO FIND OUT THEY’RE LYING. Elizondo nuked his credibility ON PURPOSE! The GOAL isn’t to make you believe the le, it’s to demoralize you into a confused gaslit state of disassociation.

Joe Murgia 的头像
Joe Murgia1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO I THINK YOU'RE READING TOO MUCH INTO IT.

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CatchALL1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO I see they slid in a Mick west watermark in there over one clip 🤦‍♂️

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Tom Nolan1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO Yep, agreed. After hearing Grusch's testimony before Congress, where he detailed his inability to access several programs even with his top level security clearance, the idea of a 'black' separate world seems highly plausible. It's funded through money stolen from the DOD budget.

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JD1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO @devindwyer I would Gabe said: “if the government-or defense contractors had UAP programs but they were Unacknowledged Special Access Programs; especially those authorized by the Whitehouse, would you have access?

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Stretch1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO Thanks, Joe. Give him points for adding NHI. Take away points for specifying, "spacecraft".

Joe Murgia 的头像
Joe Murgia1 年前

@devindwyer @DoD_AARO Welcome. I watched lot of news to make sure I clipped it and people don't seem to give a crap. What else is new?

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Stratton: "So, you got to have that kind of open mindedness to approach this topic and I hope that my government, you know, folks are open to those kinds of things. And I know that there are still some key players that are open and thinking about...thinking out of the box about all those kinds of things. So, I mean, I think consciousness is the area that I would want to put more resources and time into if I were still there. (Yes, yes and yes. Bring back Stratton as the UAP and Consciousness Czar!) Anna Brady-Estevez: "And it's interesting because there's quite a bit of access to consciousness, you know, on a personal level-type experimentation. So it is interesting in that, you know, to get into UAPs, I mean, maybe you've seen one or more, maybe you haven't. But, if you haven't, you're kind of digging through other people's data. Whereas some of these consciousness or the remote viewing, it really just takes a couple people and a sheet of paper. So you can kind of step away pretty quickly from the, 'Do I believe the reports?' you know? Or somebody else's versus you can get to that primary experimentation at the cost of a sheet of paper, a pencil, and fifteen minutes or more of somebody's time here, at the most basic level. I mean, obviously there's extensive training to build the high-end capabilities. But some of that initial testing is pretty immediate. So thank you for bringing up that consciousness work." (When I took a basic Controlled Remove Viewing class with Lyn Buchanan (one of the OG remote viewers) in 1997, I saw the results for myself when I tried it. And right there and then, I KNEW that it worked. So people can debate with me all day long about the validity of psi and remote viewing but they won't change my mind. Seeing (and trying it for yourself) is believing.) 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