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Did Jesus Claim To Be God?
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John 14:7 “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.” John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.

Next time, get someone else to challenge these points. Having a debate with yourself isn’t productive

Come for a real debate instead of debating yourself everyday lol

He almost had it, except at the end. Even the demons believe, but belief alone is not enough, more is required but those who truly believe will not be found lacking in what is required.

Watching you interview yourself to 'prove' the Trinity is like watching someone play chess against themselves and acting surprised when they win. You aren’t solving a mystery; you’re just validating your own imagination in high definition. If you’re the judge, the jury, and the witness, of course the verdict is going to suit you.

You don’t want to debate that do you @taco_talks I’m sure you don’t. Your little skits can’t argue back.

"Exact-word fallacy" xD

what are your thoughts on this… In relation to what he’s talking about here’s my take JEHOVAH AND JESUS: THE DISTINCTION FROM EXODUS 6:3 Exodus 6:3 — "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty (El Shaddai), but by my name YHWH (Jehovah) I did not make myself known to them." This verse establishes God's personal name—YHWH, often rendered Jehovah. It is the name by which the Father reveals himself to Israel. No person in Scripture—angel, prophet, or king—bears this name. It belongs exclusively to the Father. THE NAME JEHOVAH IS NEVER APPLIED TO JESUS Jesus is called many titles: Lord, Master, Son of God, Messiah, Savior. But he is never called Jehovah, YHWH, or Yahweh in Scripture. The New Testament writers had every opportunity to apply this name to Jesus if he were Jehovah incarnate. They never do. Instead, they consistently distinguish Jesus from the Father who bears that name. JESUS REVEALED THE FATHER'S NAME John 17:6 — "I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world." Jesus reveals the Father's name—his own name is not the one being revealed. He makes known the Father, not himself as the Father. John 17:26 — "I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known." Jesus' entire mission is to reveal the Father, not to claim the Father's identity. THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD John 17:3 — "This is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Jesus here prays to the Father and calls him "the only true God." He does not include himself. The Father is Jehovah—the only true God. Jesus is the one sent by Jehovah. JESUS HAS A GOD Revelation 3:12 — Jesus says of the overcomer: "I will write on him the name of my God." Jesus has a God. That God is the Father—Jehovah. John 20:17 — "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." After his resurrection, Jesus still calls the Father "my God." If Jesus is Jehovah, how does Jehovah have a God? THE FATHER IS GREATER John 14:28 — "The Father is greater than I." Jehovah is greater than Jesus. Not equal. The Father sent; the Son was sent. The Father gave authority; the Son received it (Matthew 28:18). THE SHEMA AFFIRMS ONE GOD Deuteronomy 6:4 — "Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one." Jesus quotes this as the greatest commandment (Mark 12:29). He never says "I am YHWH." He affirms what every Jew knew: YHWH is one, and he is the Father. JESUS REFLECTS THE FATHER, BUT IS NOT THE FATHER Hebrews 1:3 — Jesus is "the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature." A radiance is not the source. An imprint is not the seal. Jesus perfectly reflects the Father—Jehovah—but is not the Father. Colossians 1:15 — Jesus is "the firstborn of all creation." Firstborn means preeminent, first in rank, but also part of creation—not the uncreated Creator. THE DISTINCTION IN JOHN'S GOSPEL John consistently distinguishes Jesus from the Father: · John 5:19 — "The Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing." · John 5:30 — "I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me." · John 8:42 — "I came from God... he sent me." · John 14:28 — "The Father is greater than I." If Jesus were Jehovah, these statements would be nonsense. Jehovah does not have a will distinct from himself. Jehovah is not sent. Jehovah has no one greater. THE "I AM" PASSAGES IN CONTEXT John 8:58 — "Before Abraham was, I am." Critics claim Jesus takes Jehovah's name here. But the Greek phrase ἐγὼ εἰμί is common. It is used in: · John 9:9 — The healed man says "I am the man" · John 18:5-6 — When soldiers seek Jesus, he says "I am" and they fall back Jesus is identifying himself, not claiming the divine name. The Jews understood he claimed preexistence—considered blasphemous—so they picked up stones. But preexistence does not equal being God. Angels preexisted. Wisdom is personified as existing before creation.

Amen. In Christ alone

Consulta: ¿Eso significa "Yo soy"? Porque no lo pareciera.

Are you Muslim are you Catholic? Catholics are Christians & not Muslims

Yahweh doesnt mean "I Am". The Hebrew says "I Will Be"(Symmachus, Theodotion, Aquila). The Greek text of LXX translate "The Being"(Ho on, not ego eimi). In the early centuries no one associated John 8:58 with Exodus 3:14.

The argument reminds of the analogy of two bald men fighting over a hair comb; facile non-sensical nonsense. Their debate is only relevant if God exits...and he/she does not! And tell me, how do people have the spare time to indulge in such benile rubbish?!

Yeah I’ve never been more convinced that Jesus never claimed to be God. You legit just filmed yourself performing extensive mental gymnastics as if it was a compelling point. This is awful.

Outstanding post! This truthfully lifts up Jesus. Followed!

John 14:6: "No one comes to the Father except through me"John 15:8: "My Father is glorified by this,””No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him" (Matthew 11:27).

Eye opener

Christian Cope and delusional behavior when you accept the trinity!

You can watch this long video or you can just answer no & move on.

Faith without works is dead. Also, how does one accept Christ's mercy and salvation? You have to be baptized, for those who were baptized were baptized into his death. As for works? See the 10 commandments/statements and see who is my neighbor. You still get alot right.

He always has to have Catholics in his mouth. Never anything to say about any other apostolic churches who hold these principles with us for thousands of years.

@muslimorthodoxy

Catholic is the true church lmao

@maklelan

🤗 I really like that one ☝️ Well done

🤣 🤣 before Abraham I am 🤣 🤣

if the bibe was actually divinely inspired, it wouldnt be so convoluted and up to interpretation. you wouldnt need to have these inane arguments with each other over what the bible does and doesnt say/mean.

No, no he didn't. Paul also never claimed he was God, this would make him a hypocrite for worship of the creation instead of the invisible and incorruptible creator.

So Christianity entails „Nobody but yourself (the _I_ that _is_) is coming to save you, do it yourself?

Maybe do an actual debate next time man this was a bit embarrassing- every point you raised has been repudiated by scholarship. The words ‘I Am’ can also just be used as self-identification (evidence below)

I am means I’m here. That’s all
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