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Digital Foundry confronts the criticism “Why do last-gen games like Uncharted 4 (2016) or Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018) look better than current AAA games like Avowed?”.

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Фото профиля PixelSpawn
PixelSpawn1 год назад

I think it’s a completely FAIR criticism when you’re talking about $70 games. If your game isn’t up to standard with the industry leaders you have NO BUSINESS charging industry leader price points. Avowed would have been an excellent game charged at $40.

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RedDeer.Games IR2 лет назад

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Фото профиля that 🥷🏾 you love to hate
that 🥷🏾 you love to hate1 год назад

so…different artists? that dude is long winded on purpose.

Фото профиля Infinite_HERO79
Infinite_HERO791 год назад

They have Xbox money and resources this sounds kind of like an excuse for them! Obsidian is not a new studio they know what they are doing and they are not small!

Фото профиля Sebastien セバスチャン
Sebastien セバスチャン1 год назад

Lol people thinking Awoved costs as much as Red Dead and with similar team size are really noob 🤣

Фото профиля Mr Bailey 🧄
Mr Bailey 🧄1 год назад

Naughty Dog - 961 Employees - 1 project Rockstar - 2,001 Employees - 1 project Obsidian - 307 Employees - 3 projects 1 ongoing

Фото профиля 🇵🇭Homoludens of Yōtei🏳️‍🌈
🇵🇭Homoludens of Yōtei🏳️‍🌈1 год назад

Easily answered: Obsidian’s artists are weak in the talent department and the game director has bad taste. That’s it. Obfuscation is just stupid.

Фото профиля De Laurentis
De Laurentis1 год назад

That's easy! Offering games on the day of release directly from the catalog causes an obvious lack of quality in new games. You are banking on slow subscription growth to pay for the very expensive development of next-gen games. And this is happening with Xbox.

Фото профиля Matt
Matt1 год назад

It’s talent above all but he’s too much of a coward to say it.

Фото профиля VamosReal 🇵🇸
VamosReal 🇵🇸1 год назад

Funnily, @digitalfoundry used a first party Sony PS exclusive & Rockstar’s RDR2 which also was PS4 XB1 exclusive game as an example of games that delivered AAA cutting edge & big generational leap never seen before graphics and technology,, so why all the anti exclusivity push?

Фото профиля GamerStyle1980
GamerStyle19801 год назад

Lmfao Avowed looks far better the Uncharted 4, stop the cap fraud

Фото профиля Ether
Ether1 год назад

ND and especially Rockstar are more talented than other studios

Фото профиля Freddy Fox
Freddy Fox1 год назад

Comparing UC4 a linear action game that's not open world to a game with a ton of NPCs that is an open world game smdh you dudes will say anything stupid to downplay an Xbox game instead of just enjoying games RD2 looks better than stellar blade why aren't you making that post?

Фото профиля Zorklis
Zorklis1 год назад

In short: talent problem

Фото профиля HarryT
HarryT1 год назад

People think that new hardware plus UE5 should magically produce better graphics with little effort. You need artists, engineers, designers, coders, etc. to optimize everything, a generous budget, and reasonable time frame. Plus you need experience with the hardware and software.

Фото профиля Carlos Alvarado
Carlos Alvarado1 год назад

Avowed very fun. Definitely enjoying my time. I just reached the forth zone. Definitely has some flaws here and there but eh gameplay is 🔥

Фото профиля painmute
painmute1 год назад

"Microsoft doesn't have as much money as Naughty Dawg and Rockstar" Is a pretty retarded take, in fact, it's incredibly retarded.

Фото профиля Jamaican Paradise Boutique Inc. ™️
Jamaican Paradise Boutique Inc. ™️1 год назад

It really just comes down to talent, engine being used, and experience. Most of these devs have no experience with UE5 since it's still relatively new. If Microsoft would invest into helping each studio create their own proprietary engine, it might be a different story.

Фото профиля oldmangamingguru
oldmangamingguru1 год назад

🐘🐘🐘in the room imagine locking out the most creative groups of people replacing them with females from the same untalented group,then being surprised it’s a shortage of talent.😂😂 then scream DEI… you can’t make this💩up!!!

Фото профиля AXISPAW
AXISPAW1 год назад

Uncharted 4 and RDR2 are some of my favourite games, but saying they look better than Avowed is just ridiculous. Let’s be honest, most of the people pushing that take haven’t even played Avowed—just the usual Ponies grasping at straws.

Фото профиля Richard Loveridge
Richard Loveridge1 год назад

I don't think that about Uncharted 4 at all. To be honest I feel that looks quite old now. RDR2 is of much higher visual quality than UC4. That is a game I think still looks remarkable. But the lighting is what makes it look older now.

Фото профиля C͟y͟g͟n͟u͟s͟✍️
C͟y͟g͟n͟u͟s͟✍️1 год назад

Avowed ain’t AAA..

Фото профиля Dennis
Dennis1 год назад

MS had no problem blowing nearly $100 billion on shit it didn't need but couldn't afford Avowed? The truth is that Avowed was meant to be a multi-player thing that MS decided to turn into a single-player thing. It just didn't work. It's no Redfall but it's no Obsidian game either

Фото профиля specialK90
specialK901 год назад

A lot of game developers in these comments.

Фото профиля That PlayStation Gamer
That PlayStation Gamer1 год назад

In other words maybe Obsidian is not that dam good they made one great game 15 years Outer Worlds - Mid Avowed - Mid Grounded - Mid South Park SOT - Good Game ...

Фото профиля RGoat
RGoat1 год назад

We need a real school teaching how to make good games.

Фото профиля Erik Jacobsen
Erik Jacobsen1 год назад

The quality and cost of making a game should be reflected in the price.

Фото профиля M.E.
M.E.1 год назад

Comparing Avowed with RDR2 saying Avowed studio isn't as big as Rockstar. Then how about they discuss RDR2 vs Star Wars outlaws or Starfield or cyberpunk DF doing convenient comparison

Фото профиля Living
Living1 год назад

GTA VI really gonna ruin people's mind of what video games should look like. Instead of setting the bar of very high standard game, people will take it as setting the bar for a game.

Фото профиля Feinted 🫥
Feinted 🫥1 год назад

Games don't need to be graphically stunning. Good art direction will always be more important than fidelity and it stands the test of time better. Avowed's fidelity isn't why the game is mid.

Фото профиля Ventilator
Ventilator1 год назад

At least Avowed have no pop ups at all anywhere unlike in most other games. Obsidian nailed that part. Pop ups are annoying in open world games. Confirmed by Digital Foundry.

Фото профиля !ADP!
!ADP!1 год назад

Df crazy for trying to do damage control for these studios taking longer to make games and making them worse than last gen games and charging us more money. No excuses.

Фото профиля Curt kazee
Curt kazee1 год назад

Ue5 sucks is a huge part of it. It’s not just avowed it’s most aaa games are a step back from many last gen games. Look at far cry new dawn it craps on tons of new games

Фото профиля Tyler Ghost
Tyler Ghost1 год назад

Probably because they focus on stupid shit like ray tracing

Фото профиля 𝐃𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞
𝐃𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞1 год назад

Because Avowed is pure gamepass slop made for a subscription service.... Compering this to R* amd RDR2 come on.... 😂😂😂😂

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