DISCLAIMER: I've been playing WuWa since day 1 First argument always gets me when there is so fun endgame like "Endstate Matrix" exists Just because WhiWa is ass, doesn't mean all Endgame modes are ass and the same level as Genshin, why even comparing in the first place.

Matrix and holograms are probably the only gacha endgames im happy to play and spend time on since im actually having fun. Especially matrix. Its genuinely fun to plan and mix teams for a better score. Im only speaking out of endgames from Endfield, Wuwa and Genshin tho.

Still Best Endgame is Endstate Matrix Hologram is also fine but not recycling but Endstate Matrix also rewarding and giving you so much freedom

I constantly go back into matrix trying to improve my scores, I love this mode

Still the best game mode for WuWa, i do accept complaints for WhiWa but not all endgames, there is not even a good endgame like Endstate Matrix in any gacha i played for me.

This post just reads like fily is mad that he couldn't get SSS on whiwa ngl

lmao 😂

Kuro screwed over matrix this season with the score change. It was fine before. Rewarding players to play right. Now it just rewarding players to roll more for more teams.

I understand your criticism but it doesn't make it ass mode

Tower as an endgame mode is fine All my homies hate WhiWa and matrix.. is fine as a rooster check, even if i only do it for the asterites and then leave. Day1 player btw

fair mate

imho, ToA is mid, whiwa is trash and Matrix is good. Kinda balanced, I guess lol

That stems from people getting tired of seeing the same things over and over, so they lump everything together. Someone don’t really care to distinguish the nuances, but for those who do, congrats on being a decent human being.

hate me but endstate matrix is the most fun gamemode in wuwa, it slightly challenging and it doesnt end after 2 teams you have to use multple unless your giga whale than fund me

I need them to take all of whiwa's astrite, double it, and give it to the endstate matrix

Personally, I only like the ToA, as it's not as restrictive and you can complete the challenges with almost any character who can even slightly benefit from the perks. But I don't like the WhiWa or the Matrix. The WhiWa has become very restrictive, giving perks and exclusivity to the featured promotional character. The next reboot will benefit Hsin, excluding the other Electro characters because none of them can take advantage of Electro Flare or Unison stacks. Perhaps only Suoming, and to a small extent Buling, will benefit, but all the others—Calcharo, Yinlin, Augusta, and the other Electro characters—are left out. As for the "Matrix" event, I don't play it because: 1. It forces the player to farm and upgrade all their characters. 2. It's clearly a copy of Genshin's recurring Stygian Conflagration event, and both offer the same amount of rewards: 400 Astrites in WuWa and 450 Primosgems in Genshin. 3. This event is somewhat similar to Genshin's Theater event, where you need to max out your characters to play. However, without the Theater's character restrictions, in the Theater, if only Electro, Fusion, and Ameno characters can participate, only those can be used on a team. In WuWa, all characters can be used, but there comes a point where entering the challenge is just about scraping together some damage to obtain a very minimal amount of... Points In Genshin, WuWa, and other gacha games I've played, I always have one philosophy: "If the challenge requires doing too many things or is very difficult, and the rewards for achieving all the objectives aren't adequate, I pass on those challenges." That's why I complete Holograms up to the maximum difficulty where I can see that my characters' damage is effective. But if I see that an enemy can take away 3/4 of my character's health with a single hit that I don't dodge, or that they can "instantly kill" me with a single hit, and the damage I do is just a tickle, I pass... Especially knowing that Holograms only give 20 Astrites per level. I'll pause to mention that the only Holograms I've completed to the maximum level are those in Jinzhou. The others, at most, I've completed to level 5; most of them only get stuck at level 4.

Unfortunately, i hard disagree with Endstate Matrix complain, yes its better to use many characters Think about using your only 2-3 teams for ToA but in Matrix, you can use all the teams you upgraded until now.

The problem is that not everyone has upgraded all their characters, and many of us base our strategies on the metagame. If we see that Jiyan in version 3.7 does no damage or very little, we ignore him. But doing so also means losing points and potentially better results, and obviously better rewards. I never agreed with giving only 400 astrites as a good reward, because remember, a Lollo event gives up to 600 astrites and 5 pulls of the standard banner, even that event gives more than Matrix And the worst part is knowing that you don't have to do almost "anything" about that event.

Tell them when wiwa wasnt bad i used to reply it cause you could actually better your score back then but now its pure shit

Also, my complainy in matrix is HOW its accessed. You need a high score in whiwa in order to access it

I love being devil's advocate and being probably the only one that doesn't actually have an issue with Whiwa. My argument for it is that it's designed specifically for characters that have their damage spread out on AoE and consistency across waves over frontloaded bursts.

Round 3 ? tf I barely made it to the box on round 2

>First argument always gets me when there is so fun endgame like "Endstate Matrix" exists >literally mode which whole shtick is to check did you buy bp+sub+200$ each patch for last 2 years Well fitting "endgame" for such audience :D

Matrix is ass very overrated

This is the most fun stress inducer I've ever partook in, not gonna lie.

bro doesn't know that you have to clear whiwa so you could get to endstate matrix, you want me to go through shit to find a gem? hell nah that sounds like a job

Endstate Is a travesty. It's not built on skill, it's built on how much money you spent to get more units and weapons. And it irks me. I pick and choose units once I have certain elements built, and despite I am an above average player, I barely hit 40k cause roster is too small

The generosity one kills me considering wuwa is #2 in avg pull count compared to mainstream games & he’s an endfield glazer where their avg pull count is at the bottom with genshin and basically has to rely on conditional pulls to inflate their numbers 😭

Matrix'in, bir endgame olarak övülüyor olması, endgame içeriğinin yeteri kadar iyi olmadığını gösteriyor zaten. wuwa endgamelerinin en büyük sorunu diğer gacha oyunlarını kopyalayarak her yama salak saçma bufflar koyması. her takım türü için belirli buff seçenekleri olmalı.

Best you can say for endgame is fine, best you can say for story is fine, best you can say for the gacha is fine. We are in an era of mediocrity.

Eu nem consigo jogar esse modo pq não tenho comp pra fazer o barco 🤨

I was gonna correct this dude for a lot of point, until I remembered he blocked me when I said Endfield has time limited pulls 😅

ya too bad matrix is lowkey p2w

best part about WuWa endgame is that you don't have to be a whale to complete it.

Also a D1 wuwa player but all the end game is definitely ass. It's opinionated though

I don't like Endstate Matrix because I don't have the characters to build the teams. I'm a day-one player, but I'm F2P and the 50/50s keep screwing me over. This endgame is more of an account check rather than a skill check

It has a 45 days reset time. No one is saying matrix is a bad game mode. Most people are mad about resets. They are the worse in gacha space right now.

Wuwa's problem is that coop is legitimately dead, not dying, actually dead. That's something Genshin will always have over other gacha games. You basically HAVE to do coop for most modern world bosses and it's dope fun. Hopefully Silver Palace will have healthy coop, too.

Remove whiwa

"Day 1 player"..

It might be good if you're an old/day1 player but most players just don't have that many teams they can make.