Do you feel it's increasingly difficult to have nuanced conversations about the evolution of content, creativity & craft...in the wake of AI? Do you seek this type of conversation? Introducing the Adobe Creative Collective:

Nah, too little too late. This and Adobe's little Critics Circle are trying to put bandaids on a decapitation. Having Belsky on there is rich too.

There won’t ever be a nuanced discussion about ai-slop if adobe is going to pick „artists“ so far removed from real artists spaces.

hey anton. I can't agree that the first installation of artists are far removed from real artist spaces, but I can say that the plan is to augment the group over time

I would rather see Adobe foster discussions on ways to be creative and successful *without* AI, seeing as the AI industry is aggressively *trying* to take over the market of human creation. The humans watching want to know how to remain relevant, not how they'll be replaced.

Hey Chrisy. These are specifically the types of convos I'd expect to have with this group. It's not meant to be solely around AI either, far from it. Will keep you posted!

Stop trying to force AI slop on everyone.

Adobe cliamed Firefly was their ethical out to not being like the otherguys. Adobe then opoened up an environment and partnered with the otherguys. Doesnt that make Adobe complicit in the theft they claimed to avoid with Firefly?

Not really I just get on with it without AI.

fair enough!

WTF is this and why are you putting effort, money and time in it, rather than in supporting your actual software that people use and pay for?

this is a community effort to bring artists together. if the community at large doesn't show interest, i'm sure they'll re-evaluate.

fuck off, FUCK OFF, F U C K O F F

Topic suggestion: Why hasn't Adobe yet presented an innovation to PROTECT artists' work from AI?

Hi Devin. We partnered with Content Authenticity Initiative some time ago to properly authenticate/tag non-AI/AI-gen content. Could you expand a little more on what you mean by protect artists work *from* AI? Is this different from a commercially-safe model (which Firefly is)?

Thanks for asking. I am referring to solutions like Glaze/Nightshade to protect artwork from being scraped to build LLMs. My understanding is these solutions are no longer as effective. Some artists are choosing not to post or share new work as a result.

That rings a bell. Thank you for sharing. I will pass that info along to the teams. If I learn of any new initiatives, I'll let you know.

Much appreciated, Jason. Thanks for both asking for clarification and listening to the artists and users.

Absolutely, my pleasure. Really appreciate the dialog, Devin. Thanks again.

imagine having "Evangelist for Adobe Creative Cloud" in your bio and not feel embarrassed...

A.i slop

All Adobe has done is ensured I will never buy a single product of theirs. And kept my dad from wasting money on Photoshop.

@mdowney Cool! Side note: those sound effects rule. 🎺😛

@mdowney Aww, John 🤗😊 thanks, man!

The discussion is ongoing…

I fear the discussion could be a little towards one side. In the coming month it is expected, that AI will become much better at visual concepts. I guess none of those invited would be in favor of: 'let the AI do the concept but have a real artist do the craft without AI'.

Thanks for the comment Ned. I would think they'd be quite in favor of what you're suggesting (largely because many came up long before AI, so it's in their design DNA) but that's the idea, to have that very convo and approach it from all angles.

Its in their DNA to let AI do the concepts? Interesting discussion would be: with AI as first technology that can replace cognitive work, isn't it time, that 'idea vs concept' gets more equaly valued? Maybe in future it isn’t only idea-guys discussing on automating craft?

The topic pool is wide open. I’ll be sure to pass this along.

Love the video and the sfx. I hope this initiative will succeed

Me too, Eran. Thanks so much for the kind words.

Yeah it's basically impossible

Here's some nuance for your conversation: Thinking that prompting a machine learning system to throw up gen-SLOP is the same as making art is like thinking that watching pornography is the same as making love.