Does believing in a different creator for the universe constitute shirk? Muhammad Yasir al-Hanafi, the popular Ash'ari theologian, answers the question.

At this point, do these people consider anything to be shirk? Because every act of polytheism can be justified with such absurd logic.

Thats basically a dependent god. This is giving attributes of Allah to ghair Allah and adding “dependent on allah” to not make it shirk lol Can I worship ganesh believing he is dependent on Allah? Is it shirk? Shirki Sheikh: not shirk

This is a justification for polytheism by proxy.

‘Demigods are not shirk’

Akhi brother Farid, you should make it clear that you opposed his beliefs otherwise people will misunderstood your post.

1 of the underlying reasons Sufis never call clear cut shirk to be SHIRK akbar that takes one out of Islam is because ALL (each and every one) of their Scholars promote or defend Heretics like #IbnArabi (Claimants to divinity) Not once u find them making takfir on these heretics

Mufti Menk seems wayyy better at this point than them

Yeah, this is not shirk This is Shirk Alrububia

That's correct, this is a bid'ah, not shirk. We believe Allah gave 'Esa (AS) the power to give life and would not say that's shirk because the power was given by Allah. Same here.

الله اكبر is there any kufr after this ? These people have exceed the shirk and kufr of the pagan arabs in pre Islamic time even the pagan Arabs knew that Allah was the creator and controller of affairs alone but having known that they worshiped others beside Allah but you have Daniel the rafidii and this ashari claiming the belief that believing others can control the universe besides Allah is not kufr ?! Or shirk ?!! أخزاهم الله وقطع الله لسانهم Consider what the Quran actually says وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُم مَّنْ خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَسَخَّرَ ٱلشَّمْسَ وَٱلْقَمَرَ لَيَقُولُنَّ ٱللَّهُ ۖ فَأَنَّىٰ يُؤْفَكُونَ ٦١ If you ask them ˹O Prophet˺ who created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon ˹for your benefit˺, they will certainly say, “Allah!” How can they then be deluded ˹from the truth˺? Surah 29:61 وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُم مَّنْ خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ لَيَقُولُنَّ ٱللَّهُ ۚ قُلْ أَفَرَءَيْتُم مَّا تَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ إِنْ أَرَادَنِىَ ٱللَّهُ بِضُرٍّ هَلْ هُنَّ كَـٰشِفَـٰتُ ضُرِّهِۦٓ أَوْ أَرَادَنِى بِرَحْمَةٍ هَلْ هُنَّ مُمْسِكَـٰتُ رَحْمَتِهِۦ ۚ قُلْ حَسْبِىَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ عَلَيْهِ يَتَوَكَّلُ ٱلْمُتَوَكِّلُونَ ٣٨ If you ask them ˹O Prophet˺ who created the heavens and the earth, they will certainly say, “Allah!” Ask ˹them˺, “Consider then whatever ˹idols˺ you invoke besides Allah: if it was Allah’s Will to harm me, could they undo that harm? Or if He willed ˹some˺ mercy for me, could they withhold His mercy?” Say, “Allah is sufficient for me. In Him ˹alone˺ the faithful put their trust.” Surah 39:38

Athari for the win. Btw which books would u recommend for indepth athiri creed knowledge?

That last nervous unsure cackle at the end 💀

Neoplatonism in full effect.

Why does he shave his entire mustache but leave his unibrow? Someone that backwards in fiqh will certainly be backwards in aqidah

@YasirAlHanafi Imam Abu Hanifa Rahimahullah is free from you , You Stupid Mushrik

he's not wrong. Daniel is careful in the words he uses and says power GIVEN by Allah, it's also said as an extreme example, he doesn't believe it himself. Yasir even said it's not an islamic belief, so neither does he. Why are you still talking about this? Need engagement?

I think we all very tired of this now no matter what side… It’s proven fueling the flames publicly has no benifit to the ummah at all… and one from either side looks ends up looking like idiot - time and time again These matters should be kept private. I more worried about our fellow Muslims who is on the brink of getting nuked and this will be a big problem for all in the region

The guy is a kafir clearly...

Clown show.

Lmfao. Was Abu Jahil a mushrik?

Wouldn’t Muhammad yasir fall into the third nullifier? If not then what’s the reason him saying that this isn’t shirk os dangerously extreme enough and to me it fits the nullifier @Farid_0v

@MahatAzizElmi Question should be to these two rafidi simps can you TELL US IS ANYTHING SHIRK🤣

Is it so difficult to worship Allah alone? To call upon him alone? To call upon another, be it a “wali” or the noble prophets (peace and blessing be upon them all) shows lack of faith in Allah

Yeah this is shirk

Why are you lying? He said nothing about 'different creator'. The prophet or the saint, in that scenario is only a wasila, NOT actual creators provided that their power is purely dependent.

Is this new or old Brother ? Not that it change anything but I’m curios

Two months.

This is clearly major shirk and major kufr. Stay away from these mushrikeen if you care about your akhirah. This mushrik Daniel and this ashari polytheist (like all asharis) trying to protect their shia brothers in kufr Exposed - Shia believe imam controls everything

From his answer, you can tell that he benefits from this polytheism yet calls it a myth. I seek refuge in Allah from him. You are charlatans and liars, agents of devils.”

@ABDULHAMID_21 So people try to confuse you about clear cut shirk because they want to unite with Iran

Will you ever tell us attributing how much control would constitute shirk? I am not asking about kufr.

This is basically saying God Almighty granted this “person” a SHARE in his attributes. That is the very definition of shirk. Yet, it’s like the Christian’s with Jesus. Both parties still claim God is One, meaning legally…

“Makes the hair on my body stand up” yeah that’s your fitrah bro. Stop pandering to this Shia/shirk apologist.

This is crazy , how is NOT shirk These people dont know the beauty of tawheed