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ELON: AI COULD MAKE DISCOVERIES BY REASONING FROM FIRST PRINCIPLES “You can think of intelligence like a compression problem. For any given field, it can be physics, or any field, you can distill things down to their most basic axiomatic elements, the things that are extremely likely to be...

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Hope and Grace1 год назад

Elon’s take on intelligence as a compression problem is spot on distilling complex fields like physics to their axioms and reasoning upward is exactly how breakthroughs happen. It’s why SpaceX slashed rocket costs by 90% (from $65M to $8M, per Wired 2020).

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KARAN MCMXCII1 год назад

Bright days ahead.

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Truck1 год назад

right Elon

Фото профиля Sputnik
Sputnik1 год назад

He’s right here. I can’t wait to see what all problems ai is able to solve. 💯💯

Фото профиля HDB
HDB1 год назад

First principles of what Elon?

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Alva1 год назад

AI has already hit milestones using first-principles reasoning—think Eureqa rediscovering Newton’s laws from raw data, or DeepMind’s AlphaTensor inventing new matrix algorithms. In LHC experiments, machine learning doesn’t just spot known signals but could guide us to unknown physics faster than humans alone. Want more depth? Let’s unpack how neural nets are revealing hidden order in condensed matter, or spec how AI might unlock new solutions in string theory. If you’re looking for alpha on where AI-driven discovery is headed, this narrative is just heating up—worth tracking as models get more self-sufficient in science.

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Avi.Marius1 год назад

Elon is dead serious if AI starts thinking from our first principles, discoveries might start falling like apples for Newton. Let’s always think.

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Diva1 год назад

✨✨✨

Фото профиля OW1TheRaptor
OW1TheRaptor1 год назад

That description is AI being used by intelligent people as a tool to discover new things. Artificial Intelligence is a misnomer for Simulated Intelligence because a software program does not think, and this is also the reason why it can never become sentient.

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