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ELON: ROME FELL BECAUSE THE ROMANS STOPPED MAKING ROMANS "Every year the birth rate is dropping, and this is true through most of the world. I don't mean to single out South Korea; it's been happening throughout the world. As soon as any given civilization reaches a level of...

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Elon Musk2 年前

It is an often overlooked major issue

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Albion2 年前

Contrary to popular belief, a low birth rate isn't necessarily linked to financial prosperity. Historically, even in times of poverty, birth rates have remained high. The decline in birth rates often coincides with periods of political corruption and poor governance, which make people's lives unbearable. When citizens are financially suffocated by inept policies and corrupt leadership, they become less inclined to have children. Take a closer look at history, and you'll see that it's not financial stability that drives birth rates down, but the misery inflicted by bad politics and corrupt officials.

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Pro-humanity 🕊️2 年前

I believe there is definitely a correlation with a low birth rate and the end of civilisations. The question is whether it is the root cause or a symptom. There was a rise of hedonism too, which I believe would be a more likely root cause with low birth rate as a symptom.

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Peter R Hann2 年前

Well, yes, You think about how Rome was able to replace its massive manpower losses in the 2nd Punic War, only because they had a high birth rate. Once Rome became masters of the Med they settled back and starting enjoying themselves. Less kids, less citizens to join the legions. Hire Mercs to join the legions. All of a sudden, the legions supported those who would pay them the most. Result, Emperor after Emperor spent most of time clinging to power and bribing the Pretorian guard rather than maintaining the empire. Yes, I think about Rome a lot.

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FarFromMatrix2 年前

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Benjamin Lockheart2 年前

You're not exactly breaking new ground here, Elon. The decline of civilizations isn't solely due to birth rates, but more likely because they became complacent and lost touch with their core values.

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TheÐogeGlory2 年前

The same thing his happening all over the world. Europe and America will eventually be outnumbered by migrants who don't share the same values nor want to protect it.

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Tomer Rozenberg2 年前

Elon’s take is intriguing—prosperity often leads to lower birth rates, a pattern seen throughout history.

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Elon Musk went on Lex Fridman and explained the real reason every great civilization in history collapsed. The same thing is happening right now: 1. The single biggest reason civilizations collapse is birth rate decline. not war, corruption, or economic failure. birth rate. When a civilization wins for long enough, the birth rate drops. It has happened every single time throughout history without a single exception. Durant studied civilization after civilization and found the same pattern in all of them. 2. Rome is the clearest example. Julius Caesar noticed the declining birth rate around 50 bc and tried to pass a law incentivizing roman citizens to have a third child. Augustus actually managed to pass a tax incentive for the same thing. Neither worked. Rome fell because Romans stopped making Romans. That is the actual fundamental issue. Everything else, the malaria epidemics, the plagues, the military failures, came after the demographic collapse was already underway. 3. South Korea currently has a fertility rate of around 0.8. If it does not decline further, South Korea will lose roughly 60% of its population. And the rate is still dropping. Musk is not singling out South Korea. This is happening across most of the world. The pattern is identical everywhere: prosperity arrives, birth rate falls. 4. Laws and regulations accumulate over time, and eventually, nothing can get done. There is no mechanism in most civilizations to remove old laws, so they just keep adding up. Musk's analogy: it is like being tied down by a million tiny strings. No single string is the problem. a million of them, and you cannot move. This is why building high-speed rail in America is effectively illegal. not because of any single law but because of the accumulated weight of all of them together. 5. The only historical forcing function that has ever cleaned up accumulated laws and regulations is war. War destroys enough of the existing structure that you have to rebuild from scratch. Musk says civilizations need a garbage collection mechanism for laws, the same way computers need garbage collection for memory. Without it, everything eventually grinds to a halt. 6. Musk told Trump about the idea of a government efficiency commission before this interview. He said he would be willing to be part of it. His prediction for the resistance it would face: the antibody reaction would be very strong. You are attacking the matrix at that point. The matrix will fight back.

Jaynit

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Roman architecture is at centre of Europe’s visual allure. Sophisticated Roman structures have survived hundreds of centuries without renovation... In 103 AD Roman engineer Apollodorus of Damascus built a 1.1km bridge from stone and wood. Trajan’s Bridge was 19m from surface of river, 15m wide and capable of supporting the weight of hundreds of traversing Roman soldiers. It was only a few feet shorter than Sydney harbour bridge. Romans built a lot of West’s longest standing buildings. They were also the first civilisation to make bridges from concrete. Some of these ancient bridges stand now as they did day they were built. This is thanks to the structural innovations that were first used by Romans. And innovations that eventually helped shape contemporary bridge engineering. Alcántara Bridge is such a bridge, standing in Spain since 104 AD. Roman civil engineer Caius Julius Lacer was the man behind the bridge. His tomb stands nearby, with an epitaph that reads “I leave a bridge forever in the centuries of the world”. He wasn’t wrong. There is a rumour doing the rounds on web that Roman engineers in charge of building bridges had to stand beneath them as scaffolding was removed. Apparently, trepidation of tonnes of rock and debris falling and crushing you lead to some pretty tight structural planning. A more likely history is found in Roman Empire’s military expansion. To improve Roman access lines the empire formed guilds of skilled workers and thinkers who shared ideas and building principles. These early engineering guilds made important discoveries in structural design, in the materials and in the piers that supported the legs of the bridges. Romans had improved traditional footbridge by creating a bridge that maintained its structural integrity through the centre. To achieve this the Romans did not rely on steel beams running through the stone members, but instead on the tensile strength of the stones themselves. The shape of the arch allowed the bricks to be inserted at a curved angle until they joined at the peak of the arch with a keystone. This keystone was shaped as a trapezoid that used the weight of the stone and concrete in the bridge to compress the tapered stones together. This pressure formed a structure in the arch that required a tremendous amount of force to rupture. Where traditional bridges were at their weakest in the centre, the arch was at its strongest. Arch was a structural innovation in building design. But it wasn’t only thing Roman Empire contributed to construction. Romans were also unique in the materials they chose to build with. A natural cement called pozzolana was used by Romans as mortar for piers (legs) of their bridges. Not only is this cement said to be ecologically cleaner than today’s cement mixtures, but its also a cement that grows stronger over time. Pozzolana is still used in some countries. It’s made by combining two parts pozzolana (which is a type of slag that forms naturally from volcanic rock) with one part powdered lime. As early as 3rd Century BC, Romans used pozzolana instead of sand in concrete in their construction. This gave their structures supreme strength and stability. As not every bridge built by Romans had luxury of building its piers on land, Romans used cofferdams where the piers would fall within a body of water. Romans used cofferdam as temporary structure that allowed construction of a bridge pier in a space of water. Cofferdams that were used by Romans were simpler than ones used in contemporary construction, but their function is identical. First, Romans would dig a ring of timber logs into river bed. They would then fill gaps between logs with clay for waterproofing, before pumping water from inside circle of logs. Upon newly dry riverbed, Romans would construct pozzolana and stone piers. After construction had been completed ring of logs was removed and piers stood in riverbed like magic. 🎥© simple.history_ (IG) #archaeohistories

Archaeo - Histories

52,307 次观看 • 1 年前

The year is 50 BC. Julius Caesar is literally paying Roman citizens massive bonuses to have a 3rd child. Rome — at the absolute peak of its power — is already dying from within. Not from barbarians. Not from lead pipes. Not from decadence. From empty cradles. Elon Musk just reminded everyone of the most overlooked pattern in history: Every single great civilization that reached prosperity and peace… stopped having kids. Ancient Greece (800–300 BC): exploding birth rates → Greek colonies from France to Crimea. Then safety + wealth arrived → birth rate collapsed → gone in a few centuries. Rome: same story, just slower. Elon’s ice-cold take: “The more prosperous and safe a civilization feels, the lower the birth rate drops. Abundance doesn’t create babies. It kills the urge to have them.” 2025 leaderboard of quietly disappearing countries: South Korea: 0.72 Italy: 1.24 Spain: 1.23 Japan: 1.26 Germany: 1.36 Even USA: ~1.62 and still falling All below the 2.1 replacement level. No invaders needed. A society that stops replacing itself doesn’t get conquered. It just fades out. Lights off. No one left to turn them back on. Elon has been saying this louder than anyone for years: Falling birth rates are the single biggest existential threat to civilization today. Bigger than war. Bigger than climate. Bigger than AI. Because you can survive anything except not existing. Watch him explain it in his own words (1:44 clip below) — then answer me honestly in the replies: Are we watching the Roman Empire collapse in real time… just with better Wi-Fi and fewer togas? And if we are — what actually reverses it before it’s too late? History is screaming the answer. Are we finally going to listen? Full clip ↓

Camus

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The modern state highway from Rome to Brindisi still broadly follows the same geographic corridor as a road the ancient Romans began building more than 2,300 years ago. And it's not a coincidence... A 2023 study in the Journal of Regional Science found that modern Italian motorways and railways still largely trace the paths of the old consular roads. The Roman network, the authors write, became "the foundational physical capital" of Italy's current transport system. That network began with a single road. It's called Appian Way. The poet Statius called it regina viarum — the queen of roads. Construction began as a military project during the Samnite Wars to connect Rome to Capua. Over the next century, as Rome pushed south, the road kept extending with it, until it reached Brindisi on the heel of Italy — roughly 540 kilometers of stone. The engineering behind it is extraordinary. Deep foundations of cemented rubble. A surface of polygonal blocks of volcanic basalt, cut and fitted so tightly the historian Procopius later wrote they looked "grown together rather than set by hand." The stretch closest to Rome — the old Appian Way — is a free public park. The original stones are still there — the same ones walked by Roman legions and medieval pilgrims. Cars still use the first few kilometers and after that, the road belongs to whoever wants to walk it. Much of what shaped the ancient world moved along the Appian Way... In 71 BC, after Crassus defeated Spartacus, six thousand of his followers were crucified along a nearly two-hundred-kilometer stretch of it as a warning. The Apostle Paul was brought into Rome as a prisoner on this road. And, according to tradition, Saint Peter walked it the other way, fleeing Nero's persecution. If you want to learn more about one of the oldest and most important of the great ancient roads — and about five other wonders built by the Romans — you can check out today's article here: It's a 5-minute read, and the engineering details alone are worth it. And if you enjoy this kind of deep dive into history, follow and subscribe — there's a new one every week.

James Lucas

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