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Etched is deploying two new technologies in chip design: low-voltage inference and cluster-scale memory. CEO Gavin Uberti says they'll make their chips much more power-efficient and way, way faster than today's leading GPUs. He breaks it down: "We looked at a lot of early research directions, and we realized... the key things that models need are way more compute and way faster memory." "If you think about inference, there are two key parts: prefill and decode. For prefill, it's a compute-bound problem. You need to have more FLOPS, more operations per second on each of your chips." "On our GPU, the bottleneck's actually thermals. You can't really run a GPU at more than around 50% of what it could theoretically do, or it'll melt." "So we're using a new technology today called low-voltage inference to try to solve this problem. You bring the voltage of the chip down dramatically, which allows us to have way, way better efficiency in terms of how much power is drawn per unit of math, and thus fit way way more flops onto the chip..." "For decode, it's all about bandwidth. Not just bandwidth on a chip, but bandwidth across your cluster. That's why we have this technology we call cluster-scale memory. It reduces the amount of time it takes to communicate from one chip to another dramatically." "As a result we can go use all of our HBM, HBM bandwidth, SRAM, SRAM bandwidth, and our scale-up domain as a single coherent pool. And that means if you're a user, you can go get much faster tokens per second, while still keeping your costs low."show more

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NVIDIA sent us 2 DGX Sparks. For a while we wondered what we would do with them. The memory bandwidth is 273GB/s making it 3x slower than an M3 Ultra (819GB/s) for batch_size=1 inference. But it has 4x more FLOPS (100 TFLOPS compared to 26 TFLOPS). So we thought, what if we could combine the DGX Spark & M3 Ultra, and make use of both the massive compute on the DGX Spark and the massive memory-bandwidth on the M3 Ultra. We came up with a way to split inference across both devices and achieve a speedup of up to 4x for long prompts compared to the M3 Ultra on its own. Full details in the blog post linked below.

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$NBIS cofounder Roman Chernin describes how their recent acquisitions of Eigen AI and Clarifai were all about speed, incredible talent, and acceleration: "The philosophy is very simple. We need to build so many things, and we need to move so fast, that we're always looking for people who can accelerate us. It should be exceptional talent, and/or something that has a great adoption." "Our two recent acquisitions [were] two teams that work on inference optimization. A big part of our business is how efficiently we convert GPUs into tokens. And these two teams — Eigen AI and Clarifai — one is focused on model optimization, the engine of inference. How you run specific models and all the techniques around spec decoding, quantization, and so on." "And the other is system optimization. All the routing, KV caching, and orchestration across the big cluster of compute and so on." "We have a very strong internal team working on inference. But we felt that we needed to move faster, bring more capabilities. Because the market is so fast."

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Sam Altman says the AI infrastructure race is not about bigger chatbots. It is about shifting the planet's intellectual output from human brains to AI brains. "If people knew what we could do with compute, they would want way, way more." "The thing I am personally most excited about is to use AI and lots of compute to discover new science." "A recent cool example here is we built the Sora Android app using Codex... in less than a month." "You can imagine that way much further, where entire companies can build their products using lots of compute." Then he gives the scale: "Let's say that an AI company today might be generating something on the order of 10 trillion tokens a day out of frontier models." "We're going to have these models at a company be outputting more tokens per day than all of humanity put together, and then 10 times that, and then 100 times that." The bottleneck is moving from software talent to compute supply, inference speed, product integration, and where all that machine intelligence gets pointed.

Sam Altman says the AI infrastructure race is not about bigger chatbots. It is about shifting the planet's intellectual output from human brains to AI brains. "If people knew what we could do with compute, they would want way, way more." "The thing I am personally most excited about is to use AI and lots of compute to discover new science." "A recent cool example here is we built the Sora Android app using Codex... in less than a month." "You can imagine that way much further, where entire companies can build their products using lots of compute." Then he gives the scale: "Let's say that an AI company today might be generating something on the order of 10 trillion tokens a day out of frontier models." "We're going to have these models at a company be outputting more tokens per day than all of humanity put together, and then 10 times that, and then 100 times that." The bottleneck is moving from software talent to compute supply, inference speed, product integration, and where all that machine intelligence gets pointed.

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Elon Musk: At Tesla, we basically had two different chip programs: one Dojo and one. Dojo on the training side, and then what we call AI4, it's just our inference chip The AI4 is what's currently shipping in all vehicles, and we're finalizing the design of AI5, which will be an immense jump from AI4. By some metrics, the improvement in AI5 will be 40 times better than AI4. So not 40%, 40 times This is because we work so closely at a very fine-grained level on the AI software and the AI hardware. So we know exactly where the limiting factors are. And so effectively the AI hardware and software teams are co-designing the chip Compared to the worst limitation on AI4, which is running the SoftMax operation, we currently have to run SoftMax in around 40 steps in emulation mode, whereas that'll just be done in a few steps natively in AI5 AI5 will also be able to easily handle mixed precision models, so you don't have it, it'll dynamically handle mixed precision. There's a bunch of sort of technical stuff that AI5 will do a lot better In terms of nominal raw compute, it's eight times more compute, about nine times more memory, and roughly five times more memory bandwidth But because we're addressing some core limitations in AI4, you multiply that 8x compute improvement by another 5x improvement because of optimization at a very fine-grained silicon level of things that are currently suboptimal in AI4, that's where you get the 40x improvement

Elon Musk: At Tesla, we basically had two different chip programs: one Dojo and one. Dojo on the training side, and then what we call AI4, it's just our inference chip The AI4 is what's currently shipping in all vehicles, and we're finalizing the design of AI5, which will be an immense jump from AI4. By some metrics, the improvement in AI5 will be 40 times better than AI4. So not 40%, 40 times This is because we work so closely at a very fine-grained level on the AI software and the AI hardware. So we know exactly where the limiting factors are. And so effectively the AI hardware and software teams are co-designing the chip Compared to the worst limitation on AI4, which is running the SoftMax operation, we currently have to run SoftMax in around 40 steps in emulation mode, whereas that'll just be done in a few steps natively in AI5 AI5 will also be able to easily handle mixed precision models, so you don't have it, it'll dynamically handle mixed precision. There's a bunch of sort of technical stuff that AI5 will do a lot better In terms of nominal raw compute, it's eight times more compute, about nine times more memory, and roughly five times more memory bandwidth But because we're addressing some core limitations in AI4, you multiply that 8x compute improvement by another 5x improvement because of optimization at a very fine-grained silicon level of things that are currently suboptimal in AI4, that's where you get the 40x improvement

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ELON MUSK: "We're starting off with an advanced technology fab here in Austin, and I'd like to thank Greg Abbott and the state of Texas for the support. So in the advanced technology fab, we will have all of the equipment necessary to make a chip of any kind logical memory, and we will also have all of the equipment necessary to make the masks. So in a single building, we can create a mask, make the chip, test the chip, make another mask, and have an incredibly fast recursive loop for improving the chip design. To the best of my knowledge, this doesn't exist anywhere in the world. We're really going to push the limit of physics in compute, and we're going to try a bunch of wild and crazy things, which you can do if you've got that fast iteration loop that I can't emphasize enough the importance of being able to make it, to test it and and then make and then change the design, do another one, and have that in a single building."

ELON MUSK: "We're starting off with an advanced technology fab here in Austin, and I'd like to thank Greg Abbott and the state of Texas for the support. So in the advanced technology fab, we will have all of the equipment necessary to make a chip of any kind logical memory, and we will also have all of the equipment necessary to make the masks. So in a single building, we can create a mask, make the chip, test the chip, make another mask, and have an incredibly fast recursive loop for improving the chip design. To the best of my knowledge, this doesn't exist anywhere in the world. We're really going to push the limit of physics in compute, and we're going to try a bunch of wild and crazy things, which you can do if you've got that fast iteration loop that I can't emphasize enough the importance of being able to make it, to test it and and then make and then change the design, do another one, and have that in a single building."

DogeDesigner

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We asked James Wang why Cerebras can run large models so quickly. His answer: Inference speed is mostly a memory problem. Instead of constantly pulling weights from external memory, Cerebras splits the model across multiple wafers and pipelines the layers together. “Inference is all about memory bandwidth.” “You don’t want to store weights external to the wafer, because the second it’s outside, it becomes much slower.” “We put the weights on the inside.” “The team built a new software stack that basically lets us split the models by layer and store them layer by layer across multiple wafers.” “That allows us to never have to read from external memory, and that’s what makes it so fast.” “For context, Claude is about 100 tokens per second.”

We asked James Wang why Cerebras can run large models so quickly. His answer: Inference speed is mostly a memory problem. Instead of constantly pulling weights from external memory, Cerebras splits the model across multiple wafers and pipelines the layers together. “Inference is all about memory bandwidth.” “You don’t want to store weights external to the wafer, because the second it’s outside, it becomes much slower.” “We put the weights on the inside.” “The team built a new software stack that basically lets us split the models by layer and store them layer by layer across multiple wafers.” “That allows us to never have to read from external memory, and that’s what makes it so fast.” “For context, Claude is about 100 tokens per second.”

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Etched CEO Gavin Uberti: "People don't realize how big of a market inference is going to be." "Right now, only a couple million people have access to the frontier models, and those are going to have to get deployed to 8 billion people across the globe. And that's not even counting AI agents that exist already, and will exist in the future." "There need to be way, way more tokens produced, and that requires much bigger assembly lines, many more factories, and some new technology."

Etched CEO Gavin Uberti: "People don't realize how big of a market inference is going to be." "Right now, only a couple million people have access to the frontier models, and those are going to have to get deployed to 8 billion people across the globe. And that's not even counting AI agents that exist already, and will exist in the future." "There need to be way, way more tokens produced, and that requires much bigger assembly lines, many more factories, and some new technology."

TBPN

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DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis says the AI bottleneck is already moving from model ideas to physical supply chains. "How much of the restriction at this point is physical? I am talking memory shortage, GPU shortage, and electricity." Demis: "That is constraining a lot of the deployment for sure. We see so much more demand for our models - Gemini and the other models that we have - than we can possibly serve." Then the less obvious part: "It does constrain a little bit the research, because you need a lot of chips to be able to experiment on new ideas at big enough scale that you can actually see if they are going to work." And on memory: "The whole supply chain is kind of strained... It still in the end actually comes down to a few suppliers of a few of the key components. Anywhere where there is some kind of constraint on the capacity, there is a sort of choke point." Important framing: The next AI race is not just who has the best model architecture. It is who can secure memory, chips, power, suppliers, and enough experimental capacity to find the next breakthrough before everyone else.

DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis says the AI bottleneck is already moving from model ideas to physical supply chains. "How much of the restriction at this point is physical? I am talking memory shortage, GPU shortage, and electricity." Demis: "That is constraining a lot of the deployment for sure. We see so much more demand for our models - Gemini and the other models that we have - than we can possibly serve." Then the less obvious part: "It does constrain a little bit the research, because you need a lot of chips to be able to experiment on new ideas at big enough scale that you can actually see if they are going to work." And on memory: "The whole supply chain is kind of strained... It still in the end actually comes down to a few suppliers of a few of the key components. Anywhere where there is some kind of constraint on the capacity, there is a sort of choke point." Important framing: The next AI race is not just who has the best model architecture. It is who can secure memory, chips, power, suppliers, and enough experimental capacity to find the next breakthrough before everyone else.

Karl Mehta

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ELON MUSK: The Future of AI Power is in Space, Not on Earth. "Once you start thinking in terms of what percentage of the sun's power are you harnessing? You realize you have to go to space and you can't scale very much on Earth. All of the United States currently uses only half a terawatt per hour on average. So you know, if you say a terawatt, that would be twice as much electricity as the United States currently consumes. So that's quite a lot. It's actually very difficult to build power plants and then you don't just need the power plants, you need all of the electrical equipment. Need the electrical transformers to run the transformers. You can build power plants. That's what we did at xAI for Colossus 2. It's very difficult to scale other forms of power. You can scale potentially solar. Solar cells are already very cheap. Now put it in space and it's 10 times cheaper because you don't need any batteries. So the moment your cost of access to space becomes low. By far, the cheapest and most scalable way to generate tokens is space. It's not even close. It'll be an order of magnitude easier to scale five years from now. My prediction is we will launch and be operating every year more AI in space than the cumulative total on Earth."

ELON MUSK: The Future of AI Power is in Space, Not on Earth. "Once you start thinking in terms of what percentage of the sun's power are you harnessing? You realize you have to go to space and you can't scale very much on Earth. All of the United States currently uses only half a terawatt per hour on average. So you know, if you say a terawatt, that would be twice as much electricity as the United States currently consumes. So that's quite a lot. It's actually very difficult to build power plants and then you don't just need the power plants, you need all of the electrical equipment. Need the electrical transformers to run the transformers. You can build power plants. That's what we did at xAI for Colossus 2. It's very difficult to scale other forms of power. You can scale potentially solar. Solar cells are already very cheap. Now put it in space and it's 10 times cheaper because you don't need any batteries. So the moment your cost of access to space becomes low. By far, the cheapest and most scalable way to generate tokens is space. It's not even close. It'll be an order of magnitude easier to scale five years from now. My prediction is we will launch and be operating every year more AI in space than the cumulative total on Earth."

DogeDesigner

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$THIS CLUSTER OF 4 MAC STUDIOS USES LESS POWER THAN ONE NVIDIA CHIP - AND COSTS 5X LESS 17:30 the number hits hard - 600 watts for all four Mac Studios - less than one H200 that costs $30,000 on its own instead of one $30,000 GPU you get 4 machines with 1.5TB of memory, 3x more performance and models that simply cannot run on a single chip Apple quietly added RDMA over Thunderbolt in a beta update - latency dropped 99% and the same cluster became 3x faster without buying any new hardware before the update: 5 tokens per second. after: 15.5 - a free upgrade through a software update 8 Nvidia DGX Sparks for the same memory would cost $32,000 - this cluster costs a fraction and gets faster with every update 10x more productive at half the price - and the only thing you need is knowing where to look$

THIS CLUSTER OF 4 MAC STUDIOS USES LESS POWER THAN ONE NVIDIA CHIP - AND COSTS 5X LESS 17:30 the number hits hard - 600 watts for all four Mac Studios - less than one H200 that costs $30,000 on its own instead of one $30,000 GPU you get 4 machines with 1.5TB of memory, 3x more performance and models that simply cannot run on a single chip Apple quietly added RDMA over Thunderbolt in a beta update - latency dropped 99% and the same cluster became 3x faster without buying any new hardware before the update: 5 tokens per second. after: 15.5 - a free upgrade through a software update 8 Nvidia DGX Sparks for the same memory would cost $32,000 - this cluster costs a fraction and gets faster with every update 10x more productive at half the price - and the only thing you need is knowing where to look

Noisy

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Many still don’t understand why Elon is building Terafab Terafab is an extension to all the chip makers in the world It’s not about replacement, not a rivalry and absolutely not competing It’s being built to fulfill the massive chip orders that Tesla, SpaceX and xAI actually need TSMC’s most advanced 2nm capacity is totally booked through 2028 Tesla signed a massive $16.5 billion deal with Samsung back in July 2025 to produce AI6 chips at their Taylor, Texas factory and Samsung is building a Tesla Exclusive chip manufacturing plant to full fill this orders When Elon announced Terafab on March 21, 2026...he made it clear: “That rate is much less than we’d like. We either build the Terafab or we don’t have the chips, and we need the chips, so we build the Terafab” He basically told the chip makers: “Produce as much as you comfortably can. We will take them all. Actually we want even more” Even today Elon said: "SpaceX/Tesla will be always be major customers of TSMC and not competitors in the normal sense of the word" Current production rates are much less than they need....That’s why Terafab exists Terafab is an extension to every chip maker… not competition, not rivalry, absolutely not Even Intel has joined as a partner Even if chip supply improves, massive bottlenecks still exist with memory and advanced packaging You simply can't risk those supply chain breaks at this scale That’s why Terafab is being built to vertically integrate everything - chips, memory, advanced packaging all under one roof, targeting 1 terawatt of AI compute capacity per year This is a ludicrous amount of chips that no chipmaker currently produces at this scale. I don't think even TSMC and Samsung truly understand these numbers yet It’s about building the capacity the future actually demands

Many still don’t understand why Elon is building Terafab Terafab is an extension to all the chip makers in the world It’s not about replacement, not a rivalry and absolutely not competing It’s being built to fulfill the massive chip orders that Tesla, SpaceX and xAI actually need TSMC’s most advanced 2nm capacity is totally booked through 2028 Tesla signed a massive $16.5 billion deal with Samsung back in July 2025 to produce AI6 chips at their Taylor, Texas factory and Samsung is building a Tesla Exclusive chip manufacturing plant to full fill this orders When Elon announced Terafab on March 21, 2026...he made it clear: “That rate is much less than we’d like. We either build the Terafab or we don’t have the chips, and we need the chips, so we build the Terafab” He basically told the chip makers: “Produce as much as you comfortably can. We will take them all. Actually we want even more” Even today Elon said: "SpaceX/Tesla will be always be major customers of TSMC and not competitors in the normal sense of the word" Current production rates are much less than they need....That’s why Terafab exists Terafab is an extension to every chip maker… not competition, not rivalry, absolutely not Even Intel has joined as a partner Even if chip supply improves, massive bottlenecks still exist with memory and advanced packaging You simply can't risk those supply chain breaks at this scale That’s why Terafab is being built to vertically integrate everything - chips, memory, advanced packaging all under one roof, targeting 1 terawatt of AI compute capacity per year This is a ludicrous amount of chips that no chipmaker currently produces at this scale. I don't think even TSMC and Samsung truly understand these numbers yet It’s about building the capacity the future actually demands

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Anthropic's Sholto Douglas describes the concept of a software-only singularity: "It's one where the models are far better at digital tasks than they are at physical ones. And so we see rapid change in the digital world with models, and relatively little change in the physical world. So information and software changes dramatically, and this ends up having some pretty weird effects." "It means that maybe like the drivers of what have been the last couple decades of progress in the economy turn around." "And I think we'll see that flow on into the physical world but at a delay. So you get much better at doing chip design. You get much better at training AI models. AI models get a lot faster. Chips get a lot better. The general economy gets a lot more efficient because the sort of information and message parsing that is much of the rest of the economy ends up becoming much more efficient." "But at the same time you don't yet have robots providing limitless physical abundance. Science probably progresses really fast up to the degree that you need interaction with labs or larger particle colliders or something like this. And then you go, 'Okay well I need to build the robots.'"

Anthropic's Sholto Douglas describes the concept of a software-only singularity: "It's one where the models are far better at digital tasks than they are at physical ones. And so we see rapid change in the digital world with models, and relatively little change in the physical world. So information and software changes dramatically, and this ends up having some pretty weird effects." "It means that maybe like the drivers of what have been the last couple decades of progress in the economy turn around." "And I think we'll see that flow on into the physical world but at a delay. So you get much better at doing chip design. You get much better at training AI models. AI models get a lot faster. Chips get a lot better. The general economy gets a lot more efficient because the sort of information and message parsing that is much of the rest of the economy ends up becoming much more efficient." "But at the same time you don't yet have robots providing limitless physical abundance. Science probably progresses really fast up to the degree that you need interaction with labs or larger particle colliders or something like this. And then you go, 'Okay well I need to build the robots.'"

TBPN

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