Even if you have zero intention to train BJJ recreationally, everyone should learn how to get up from basic pins. The idea of another person being able to easily hold you down indefinitely is terrifying.

This is also how I put down my nieces and nephews for nap time. Little savages.

@Clavicular0

And means you can be banged.

If one man

take off the boxing gloves and gouge his eyes out. he'll get off him pretty quickly.

I've trained mma and bjj for almost 25 years and I think jiu jitsu is effective in its range, but stand up striking and take down defence almost always are superior investments of time. Ground level grappling should be the last resort not a go to position for fighting.

I was a wrestler. I had a younger friend who was a bit of a hot-head and liked to pick fights. So at a party one night, he thought he’d try to take me on in wrestling. I wrapped him up like a spider does a gnat. He got pissed off and I thought he’d start swinging if I let him up before he cooled down. He yelled, “Get off of me!” a few times, so I finally let him up. It lived with him. Ate at him, I imagine. A decade later he joined a local BJJ gym, ended up liking it, and got to the point where he bought it from the owner. Now he owns two Gracie Jiu Jitsu dojos, earned his black belt, and is a consultant for Rener Gracie/Gracie University.

Basically the reason I stated grappling. Was taking Krav Maga in the late 90s. They didn’t teach much ground work. Got held down in a scarf hold by some dude during sparring and couldn’t do a damn thing. Found a BJJ/MMA school the following week and never looked back.

100% correct! OSS!

If one person can hold you down two can rape you.

Use mma cloves so it’s more fair kinda hard to get out of full mount with boxing gloves on

Damn. The disrespect on that takedown.

lost my second tourney because I didnt' know how to kick out of a north-south pin. Guy got up on points and camped on me for what had to be at least a minute. Humiliating.

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It’s true but you don’t realize how terrifying until it happens Bring wrestling back to schools across the world

Dude never seen Royce vs Jimmerson

While you’re not wrong, and a couple months of training might get you out of a pin from someone who’s fully untrained, it’s not helping against someone with even a couple stripes on their white belt.