Explaining the problems of Nathan Cofnas' strategy (to Nathan Cofnas).

Now I listened to all of this, and I did not hear anywhere what our little buddy's plan is, except to expose them to race realism. They are exposed every day in life. But they chose a different and unfalisifiable cause for those differences ("racism"). How do you disabuse them of this moral position? Equality is deeper than race differences. I'm a gen Xer, and it is of course impossible for me to find any university employment. How do I, and my fellows, retake the hill?

I have no idea what the plan could be.

I have some ideas about how to restore universities. More soon.

Nathan Cofnas won that debate

Our chief conflict was his refusal to admit that lies were more epistemically damaging than errors. I can absolutely prove this proposition in the general case.

I’d love to read that article given I basically agree with your premise. But I think Cofnas’ strategy can work on the elite level (where reality is generated) while yours is basically true on the managerial level (where morality/power is being generated)

Cofnas did not present a coherent plan in our two hour discussion. Even in this clip, he can’t keep his story straight. First he says that it’s his mission to save the universities . Then he says they are a lost cost. Then he says we need to build in parallel, but Cofnas did not spend his time building in parallel but rather trying to take out academic frauds inside the system, something you WOULDNT be doing if your plan was to build an alternative.

The plan has been published online

People in academia have a hard time coming to terms with it, for all the reasons one would expect. Maybe now he will be free to reflect.

I can’t feel any sympathy for him. You gave him plenty of warning. See, Cofnas thinks the universities are wrong like he could be. But they are corrupt.

This was a frustrating discussion when it was live

Your points are interesting, but you are insufferably impolite.

this is the last 30 minutes of a two hour dialogue where cofnas was dragging his heels on basic facts.

You continue to proffer insults which merely proves my point.

@GreeneMan6 Poor savage.

Cofnas is obviously right. Postulating some idiotic schemes and circling again and again to the obsession with Fauci gave me second hand embarrassment

Cofnas strikes me as the kind of autist that doesn't understand people or the social world. The first 40 seconds of this clip is all anyone needs to watch.

Weak men will walk all the way up to the solution and then pretend they can no longer see the path and turn around.

When you referenced Steven Pinker was you aware of his relationship with Cofnas? He's a reference on his CV.

Here is Cofnas's position. A's disadvantage is explained by natural property P rather than by B's conduct. Therefore B's conduct is not the wrong, and remedies addressed to B's conduct are misdirected. Any decent philosopher can see this collapses.

The autistic science guy doesn't understand human socio-political interaction. Im not shocked at all. Hierarchy motherfuckers when its time to stay in their lane, get really weird. He needs to stfu and focus on what he knows and let the people who do know how to fix it, do so

As a moral and political philosopher, all this race realism is besides the point. Cofnes & Co need to support this premise: "if a disadvantage has property F, no remedy is owed." And they can't. No staring at Bell Curves gives you an answer no matter how long you stare.

I discussed this very conversation with him when we met in the UK.

I think that you overstated the importance of what is already a somewhat passé enforcement mechanism (the “moral system”) in the academy, and Cofnas has been vindicated but only narrowly. That “there are racial differences and that’s why we need Affirmative Action,” is upcoming.

Universities aren't the fulcrum of our predicament. It just looks that way b/c they provide the rationalization for progressivism after the fact. The moral underpinning, the ethos of our entire society has to change and that will happen slowly, then all at once with the collapse.

Parents, send your darlings to any University to which Mr Cofnas is a part of. Nathan Cofnas had one word for every ten of Mr Greene’s’ but the words came. If it was a dance, Mr Cofnas had the lead, no disrespect to Mr Greene. Much, much light came through. Thank you

You don't have to replace the majority of the faculties. The 3.5% rule worked for the left in capturing the institutions should work in the other direction in freeing the universities from the left's ideological monopoly.

Now is the time for a true poet to emerge. Poetry easily shifts mountains when logicians scrabble with teaspoons

Agree there is a huge moral/religious aspect to WOKISM, in this new religion RACISM = SIN. Because HBD/HEREDITARIANISM is a major form of RACISM it's seen as morally WRONG. So race/IQ Hereditarians shouldn't try to deny they're RACISTS, and instead argue HBD-type RACISM is TRUE.

HBD can be used to justify MORE affirmative action. There’s no inevitable ought from this is.

When humans live in space, the need for truth and accuracy will make this seemingly insoluble problem relevant as Mayan, Aztec, or Imperial Spanish ‘reasons’

Good points but you're being needlessly combative in this discussion.

haha Fair play

Problem is you’re trying to apply scientific principles to a social science construct. With science, the observable end product is unassailable whereas in the social sciences, the end result will always be viewed differently depending on one’s values, which is the moral peice.

unless we get more Asians into our schools and stop playing around we will screw our country we don't have the luxury for these beliefs anymore.

Agree the moral argument has been underdeveloped v. the empirical.

Is this old or recent?

We need a lot of people in jail

It's been doing my head in these past couple of weeks thinking I'd seen Cofnas somewhere talking to someone I'm familiar with on a livestream. And here it is. Thanks, Dave.

Modern industrial rulers have chosen to seed chaos among their targets, as their strategy, thinking that technology allows them to limit the damage. They'd like to believe that, for a few generations now, this has been working out. It hasn't. The damage has already been immense. Chaos is like fire, in that it spreads rapidly. You think you have it under control, right until you don't. Another ember bursts alight. And you make excuses. But eventually it overwhelms everything. And just like fire, there's no negotiating with chaos. You must extinguish it everywhere and quickly, or be subsumed. The only solution is segregation. Make a moat out of morality.

Explaining nothing whatsoever.