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“Extraordinary results demand extraordinary effort” A powerful conversation with Matt MacInnis (Matt MacInnis), long-time COO and newly minted CPO at Rippling We discuss: 🔸 Matt’s transition from COO to CPO and what surprised him about leading product 🔸 The “high alpha, low beta” framework for evaluating people, processes, and...

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