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Fascinating discussion from a former ANC insider: - Mandela wasn’t really president, he was the PR guy, Mbeki was in charge from the start. - The plan was to marginalize white South Africans from the start. They worked for three years to get their hands on the levers of... show more

Rieb van Janbeeck

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Wilkovor 1 Jahr

This is well known. One of the best life lessons I learnt - never to listen to someones words; their actions and results will tell you what they really mean.

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Dr. Benwayvor 1 Jahr

Thanks. Nothing new but very interesting. Link to the whole interview pls.

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Dr Shad Katuu 🌐vor 5 Jahren

Open access ~> "Using Web Analytics to Assess Traffic to the Mandela Portal: The Case of African Countries" in New Review of Information Networking #BigData #DataTrustworthiness #Ghana #GoogleAnalytics #Kenya #NelsonMandela #Nigeria #SouthAfrica #Tanzania

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Mike 🔥💥🔥🇮🇱vor 1 Jahr

The “slow boil” of whites that Cyril Ramaphosa once let slip was a well known ANC strategy.

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Jean-Paulvor 1 Jahr

True but hollow - but doesn't tell the real story

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Julio Pereiravor 1 Jahr

Mandelas pragmatisim; ANC foreign support base eroded. Moscow & Beijing where having issues of their own. de Klerk seized the opportunity to resolve RSA domestic problems domesticaly. ANC is now been in power for 65% of the time the NATS where in power . In 78 SA was a poerhous

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Richard Hoseyvor 1 Jahr

You never had a chance There is no accommodation for black Marxists racists

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MukomaJaivor 1 Jahr

The PR man is your hero because he did nothing to change the status quo. To date,generally,whites are twenty times richer than the black man on average.A legacy of apartheid that the PR man saw nothing wrong with.There is a need to balance the equation.White people stop whining.

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ThisIsNotRealvor 1 Jahr

Don't you just love these hardcore freedom fighter always running off when their great quest come to fruition.

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Nicole Barlowvor 1 Jahr

Actually, it was the Afrikaaner Broaderbond that started negotiating with the ANC first. They began their negotiations with Mbeki in Senegal (I think). It was Mandela that insisted they move him off Robben Island so that none of the other "comrades" found out he was negotiating.

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Once the ANC sufficiently removed white people from positions of power in 1997, Mandela declared: “the time of reconciliation is over, now is the time for change”. Their objectives have always been: takeover, expropriation, control, revenge. It was never: equal rights, non-racialism, peaceful coexistence.

Once the ANC sufficiently removed white people from positions of power in 1997, Mandela declared: “the time of reconciliation is over, now is the time for change”. Their objectives have always been: takeover, expropriation, control, revenge. It was never: equal rights, non-racialism, peaceful coexistence.

Rieb van Janbeeck

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This is really important. Thabo Mbeki started hurting the ANC's strength long before 1994. He knew Chris Hani was likely to become the ANC's deputy president (with Nelson Mandela as president), but Mbeki strongly fought against it and stopped it from happening. After Mandela's time as president, Winnie Mandela was expected to become ANC deputy president. But Mbeki didn't like her, so he made sure she was pushed aside. When Mbeki lost to Jacob Zuma at the Polokwane conference, he tried to damage the ANC by helping start a new party called COPE. All this shows Thabo Mbeki has been the biggest threat to the ANC from inside, but people didn't notice. Now, what if Thabo Mbeki had a big part in Chris Hani's death? [Allegations]

This is really important. Thabo Mbeki started hurting the ANC's strength long before 1994. He knew Chris Hani was likely to become the ANC's deputy president (with Nelson Mandela as president), but Mbeki strongly fought against it and stopped it from happening. After Mandela's time as president, Winnie Mandela was expected to become ANC deputy president. But Mbeki didn't like her, so he made sure she was pushed aside. When Mbeki lost to Jacob Zuma at the Polokwane conference, he tried to damage the ANC by helping start a new party called COPE. All this shows Thabo Mbeki has been the biggest threat to the ANC from inside, but people didn't notice. Now, what if Thabo Mbeki had a big part in Chris Hani's death? [Allegations]

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A Government of National Unity (GNU) is formed by a majority party (a party with 50+1), not by a minority party such as the ANC is now. (What Ramaphosa proposed is an ANC-DA Backdoor Coalition, NOT a GNU). When, on the evening of the 2nd of May 1994, President Nelson Mandela delivered his victory speech to a cheering crowd in the Carlton Hotel’s Grand Ballroom, announcing that he had won the election and would be South Africa's next President, he was unequivocally clear that the GNU was called by the ANC as the MAJORITY party. I know exactly what the situation was, and what he said. I was there, and as then National Spokesperson of the ANC, I worked with him on that speech before he stepped to the podium to deliver it. Here is the link to the full text of the victory speech that Madiba delivered: (This a transcript of the audio recording of the speech that President Mandela delivered. The original text of the speech that we prepared, and as I have typed it out for him, together with the corrections and additions that he made with a red pen, is in the archives of the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory).

A Government of National Unity (GNU) is formed by a majority party (a party with 50+1), not by a minority party such as the ANC is now. (What Ramaphosa proposed is an ANC-DA Backdoor Coalition, NOT a GNU). When, on the evening of the 2nd of May 1994, President Nelson Mandela delivered his victory speech to a cheering crowd in the Carlton Hotel’s Grand Ballroom, announcing that he had won the election and would be South Africa's next President, he was unequivocally clear that the GNU was called by the ANC as the MAJORITY party. I know exactly what the situation was, and what he said. I was there, and as then National Spokesperson of the ANC, I worked with him on that speech before he stepped to the podium to deliver it. Here is the link to the full text of the victory speech that Madiba delivered: (This a transcript of the audio recording of the speech that President Mandela delivered. The original text of the speech that we prepared, and as I have typed it out for him, together with the corrections and additions that he made with a red pen, is in the archives of the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory).

Carl Niehaus

105,899 Aufrufe • vor 2 Jahren

VIDEO: Here is an old interview of former President Jacob Zuma explaining to Sifiso Mahlangu why he rejected a proposal from the EFF to join forces with the ANC to expatriate land without compensation. At the time, Zuma was the president of the ANC, and the country - The News Box

VIDEO: Here is an old interview of former President Jacob Zuma explaining to Sifiso Mahlangu why he rejected a proposal from the EFF to join forces with the ANC to expatriate land without compensation. At the time, Zuma was the president of the ANC, and the country - The News Box

Sihle Mavuso

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“When President Thabo Mbeki was fighting with President Jacob Zuma, he went to Bloemfontein and said, we need a Female President, then He goes to Polokwane he forgets that he is not a female and he stands himself” EFF President Julius Malema “President Mbeki was so powerful, we feared that guy. When that guy walked into the corridors, we used to run from him. President Thabo Mbeki was the most influential person in the ANC” Julius Sello Malema

“When President Thabo Mbeki was fighting with President Jacob Zuma, he went to Bloemfontein and said, we need a Female President, then He goes to Polokwane he forgets that he is not a female and he stands himself” EFF President Julius Malema “President Mbeki was so powerful, we feared that guy. When that guy walked into the corridors, we used to run from him. President Thabo Mbeki was the most influential person in the ANC” Julius Sello Malema

News Live SA

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“Is the young man of EFF, Julius Malema, the next generation for South Africa?” Bernard Avle “Well, I don't know, because you are talking about the youth league in Julius Sello Malema They come from the ANC, dissatisfied with how the ANC treated him, in particular. So, I can't say it is the youth that is going to change anything because they are ANC.” MK Party President Jacob Zuma “At least that one, the organisation you are talking about, its leader was brought up by the ANC, like me and everybody else. So, there was nothing that you could say was very special and new. If that was the case, they would have actually assisted what I've done now.” uMkhonto WeSizwe Party (Official) President Jacob Zuma

“Is the young man of EFF, Julius Malema, the next generation for South Africa?” Bernard Avle “Well, I don't know, because you are talking about the youth league in Julius Sello Malema They come from the ANC, dissatisfied with how the ANC treated him, in particular. So, I can't say it is the youth that is going to change anything because they are ANC.” MK Party President Jacob Zuma “At least that one, the organisation you are talking about, its leader was brought up by the ANC, like me and everybody else. So, there was nothing that you could say was very special and new. If that was the case, they would have actually assisted what I've done now.” uMkhonto WeSizwe Party (Official) President Jacob Zuma

News Live SA

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MKP Pres Jacob Zuma at INanda said Cyril Ramaphosa is removing them from the ANC because he wants total control. He said that is why they are fighting from outside the ANC using MKP, he said the plan is working very well because there are fightings in the ANC for Cyril to resign.

MKP Pres Jacob Zuma at INanda said Cyril Ramaphosa is removing them from the ANC because he wants total control. He said that is why they are fighting from outside the ANC using MKP, he said the plan is working very well because there are fightings in the ANC for Cyril to resign.

SA News and Reviews

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Former president Thabo Mbeki was allegedly removed from the program of Tito Mboweni’s funeral, despite the family's insistence that it was Mboweni's wish for Mbeki to be one of the speakers at his funeral. Here is the prepared speech that Mbeki was unable to deliver.

Former president Thabo Mbeki was allegedly removed from the program of Tito Mboweni’s funeral, despite the family's insistence that it was Mboweni's wish for Mbeki to be one of the speakers at his funeral. Here is the prepared speech that Mbeki was unable to deliver.

MDN NEWS

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For me, “Tinubunomics” is not working. Within the policy framework, they are doing their best, but it is not the framework suitable for Nigeria at the time President Asiwaju came into power. President Asiwaju ought to have waited, not on the day he was sworn in, to say subsidy is gone. — Senator Abubakar Yusuf, former lawmaker #PoliticsToday

For me, “Tinubunomics” is not working. Within the policy framework, they are doing their best, but it is not the framework suitable for Nigeria at the time President Asiwaju came into power. President Asiwaju ought to have waited, not on the day he was sworn in, to say subsidy is gone. — Senator Abubakar Yusuf, former lawmaker #PoliticsToday

Channels Television

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The ANC collective leadership that was led by Nelson Mandela & Cyril Ramaphosa sold out Black South Africans in CODESA. The oppressors captured the ANC long time ago and after capturing it, they identified and deployed their stooges within the ANC to hijack ANC radical policies.

The ANC collective leadership that was led by Nelson Mandela & Cyril Ramaphosa sold out Black South Africans in CODESA. The oppressors captured the ANC long time ago and after capturing it, they identified and deployed their stooges within the ANC to hijack ANC radical policies.

Collen Sibusiso Gwebu

124,004 Aufrufe • vor 2 Jahren

The ANC is more critical of the ANC than News24 is critical of the ANC. Some in the mainstream media argue that their publications are objective because they sometimes criticise the ANC and the President, as if the ANC and the President don't also criticise their own party. The issue here is that they criticise because they are rooting for it to win, and so they would like us to believe their criticism makes them neutral. While they criticise the party for not succeeding, they have shown themselves to have zero critical thinking when it comes to the assumptions on which the party is built.

The ANC is more critical of the ANC than News24 is critical of the ANC. Some in the mainstream media argue that their publications are objective because they sometimes criticise the ANC and the President, as if the ANC and the President don't also criticise their own party. The issue here is that they criticise because they are rooting for it to win, and so they would like us to believe their criticism makes them neutral. While they criticise the party for not succeeding, they have shown themselves to have zero critical thinking when it comes to the assumptions on which the party is built.

Ernst Roets

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But when Seyi Makinde said the President was wasting time with memoranda and should not play politics with it like he did with Amotekun. APC people said he was saying the state police was waste of time and he is saying he needs Lagos Amotekun to secure his state. The President was sending out a memoranda when all they needed was to fast track the process at the National Assembly. When they wanted to apply for loans, approve budgets, change anthem, declare state of emergency,, they did those things very fast. VIDEO BELOW!

But when Seyi Makinde said the President was wasting time with memoranda and should not play politics with it like he did with Amotekun. APC people said he was saying the state police was waste of time and he is saying he needs Lagos Amotekun to secure his state. The President was sending out a memoranda when all they needed was to fast track the process at the National Assembly. When they wanted to apply for loans, approve budgets, change anthem, declare state of emergency,, they did those things very fast. VIDEO BELOW!

Oluwadamilare Fabiyi of #Geni

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“The South African economy is designed to serve foreign interests. When the Afrikaners failed to keep peace in South Africa after the British handed over the country to them in 1910, the British supported the ANC and even gave them an office in London since the 1960s. The agreement was that when the ANC takes power, they must keep peace in South Africa but continue to hand over the minerals to the UK, and that’s what the ANC did since 1994.” - Moeletsi Mbeki 🇿🇦🇬🇧

“The South African economy is designed to serve foreign interests. When the Afrikaners failed to keep peace in South Africa after the British handed over the country to them in 1910, the British supported the ANC and even gave them an office in London since the 1960s. The agreement was that when the ANC takes power, they must keep peace in South Africa but continue to hand over the minerals to the UK, and that’s what the ANC did since 1994.” - Moeletsi Mbeki 🇿🇦🇬🇧

Kganki Chávez Mphahlele 🇿🇦

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Doctors say RW is suffering from dehydration. They say he has a rapid heartbeat and low sodium levels in his kidneys, which is why he was immediately moved to the ICU. They say dehydration can cause heat stroke, and if it is not treated promptly and properly, it can lead to kidney failure or even a heart attack. On Aug 22nd Ranil Wickremesinghe went to the CID at 9 in the morning. He was arrested, taken to court in the afternoon and then kept there for more than 10 hours. During that time there was an hours-long power cut. He had not been given anything to eat or even a drop of water. Is this how you treat a man who has done so much for the country? He saved people from dying in queues from heart attacks and heat strokes, yet today he is subjected to the same suffering. Truly shocking and inhumane.

Doctors say RW is suffering from dehydration. They say he has a rapid heartbeat and low sodium levels in his kidneys, which is why he was immediately moved to the ICU. They say dehydration can cause heat stroke, and if it is not treated promptly and properly, it can lead to kidney failure or even a heart attack. On Aug 22nd Ranil Wickremesinghe went to the CID at 9 in the morning. He was arrested, taken to court in the afternoon and then kept there for more than 10 hours. During that time there was an hours-long power cut. He had not been given anything to eat or even a drop of water. Is this how you treat a man who has done so much for the country? He saved people from dying in queues from heart attacks and heat strokes, yet today he is subjected to the same suffering. Truly shocking and inhumane.

Kulanthi Silva

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KGALEMA MOTLANTHE The policy of making former presidents ex officio members of the NEC began with Mandela. A special resolution was adopted at the Mafikeng Conference in 1997 to retain his experience within the NEC. Cyril Ramaphosa was an absent as ANC SG between 1991 and 1997, as he was occupied with CODESA negotiations and later led the ANC working group during the development of SA’s Constitution. Cheryl Carolus was compelled to act as SG during this period. Mandela eventually stepped in to assist, recognising how overwhelming the responsibilities of the SG Office were. Mandela later asked me to make myself available for the SG position, having observed my work as General Secretary of the NUM. I continued briefing Mandela on ANC matters until 2008; I went to introduce Gwede to Mandela as the new SG & told him that my job is now done. Gwede will take over. Mbeki and Zuma did not do any of that. Zuma didnt want to talk to Mbeki. Instead he got angry that Mbeki was appealing a Nicholson judgment which said he interefered in NPA operations.

KGALEMA MOTLANTHE The policy of making former presidents ex officio members of the NEC began with Mandela. A special resolution was adopted at the Mafikeng Conference in 1997 to retain his experience within the NEC. Cyril Ramaphosa was an absent as ANC SG between 1991 and 1997, as he was occupied with CODESA negotiations and later led the ANC working group during the development of SA’s Constitution. Cheryl Carolus was compelled to act as SG during this period. Mandela eventually stepped in to assist, recognising how overwhelming the responsibilities of the SG Office were. Mandela later asked me to make myself available for the SG position, having observed my work as General Secretary of the NUM. I continued briefing Mandela on ANC matters until 2008; I went to introduce Gwede to Mandela as the new SG & told him that my job is now done. Gwede will take over. Mbeki and Zuma did not do any of that. Zuma didnt want to talk to Mbeki. Instead he got angry that Mbeki was appealing a Nicholson judgment which said he interefered in NPA operations.

Constitution First 🇿🇦

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'Larijani was killed after he lost his status as the main candidate for the leadership of the transition period,' — CNN host Amanpour. 'What's even worse for the US and Israel, even analysts on their side are now actually saying that it is Iran that is currently driving the situation. And we don't see any end to it. At least from the American side, it is believed that there is no way out of this situation, because everything is in the hands of the IRGC. Larijani was the Speaker of Parliament for many years, he is very close to the IRGC, was close to the former Supreme Leader. He was considered a preferred figure for the transition period. If they were looking for someone with whom they could agree, then in September last year, that is, about six months ago, he was the main candidate. But then in February this year, that is, about a month ago, he lost this status and became a target, as he took, as expected, a tough stance in response to the actions of the US and Israel after the start of the war. And this again raises the question: what is the plan of Israel and Trump, except to continue the bombings and, as the targets are exhausted, to increasingly approach strikes on civilian objects? And the number of civilian victims continues to grow.' - SK

'Larijani was killed after he lost his status as the main candidate for the leadership of the transition period,' — CNN host Amanpour. 'What's even worse for the US and Israel, even analysts on their side are now actually saying that it is Iran that is currently driving the situation. And we don't see any end to it. At least from the American side, it is believed that there is no way out of this situation, because everything is in the hands of the IRGC. Larijani was the Speaker of Parliament for many years, he is very close to the IRGC, was close to the former Supreme Leader. He was considered a preferred figure for the transition period. If they were looking for someone with whom they could agree, then in September last year, that is, about six months ago, he was the main candidate. But then in February this year, that is, about a month ago, he lost this status and became a target, as he took, as expected, a tough stance in response to the actions of the US and Israel after the start of the war. And this again raises the question: what is the plan of Israel and Trump, except to continue the bombings and, as the targets are exhausted, to increasingly approach strikes on civilian objects? And the number of civilian victims continues to grow.' - SK

Zlatti71

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For the second time today , Donald Trump seems to be visibly confused. This time, he said he was the president for three terms and won three elections. What the fuck is going on?

For the second time today , Donald Trump seems to be visibly confused. This time, he said he was the president for three terms and won three elections. What the fuck is going on?

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"The worst thing that could ever happen to South Africa was when they gave it to Nelson Mandela and black folk!" This Reverend puts it perfectly blunt! I agree, the greatest threat for South Africa is the ANC. We know it, the ANC knows it, and now the world knows it too.

"The worst thing that could ever happen to South Africa was when they gave it to Nelson Mandela and black folk!" This Reverend puts it perfectly blunt! I agree, the greatest threat for South Africa is the ANC. We know it, the ANC knows it, and now the world knows it too.

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🚨 WOW! President Trump says Spencer Pratt came into the Oval Office and said he thought he WON if not for fraud "What they did to that guy was unbelievable. He was a nice guy. He worked so hard. And they found millions of ballots, you know, and they took the election away from him. They almost did it to Steve Hilton. I complained!" "I got the U.S. attorneys involved and the FBI. And as soon as they, because he was, you know, they were putting out reports, Steve Hilton is starting to fade. He's running as you know for Governor of California." "And they said, Steve Hilton, I said, here we go. They're going to find ballots. And they said he was starting to fade. He wasn't fading. He was the opposite. And I put the U.S. attorney involved."

🚨 WOW! President Trump says Spencer Pratt came into the Oval Office and said he thought he WON if not for fraud "What they did to that guy was unbelievable. He was a nice guy. He worked so hard. And they found millions of ballots, you know, and they took the election away from him. They almost did it to Steve Hilton. I complained!" "I got the U.S. attorneys involved and the FBI. And as soon as they, because he was, you know, they were putting out reports, Steve Hilton is starting to fade. He's running as you know for Governor of California." "And they said, Steve Hilton, I said, here we go. They're going to find ballots. And they said he was starting to fade. He wasn't fading. He was the opposite. And I put the U.S. attorney involved."

Eric Daugherty

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You mite have missed it, allegedly Julius Malema was trying to get into NASREC yesterday, You have to register out of the red zone. It’s done with the South African Secret Service Agency()SSA. He was not going to go anyway because he had no accreditation but what made him running from their was they said to him “he is a convict and waiting for his sentence and criminals are not allowed in here till they cleared. Malema was screaming allegedly , fuming in typical Malema style. What does Julius Malema think he is. I guess a leopard never changes it spot. When this is what you will get

You mite have missed it, allegedly Julius Malema was trying to get into NASREC yesterday, You have to register out of the red zone. It’s done with the South African Secret Service Agency()SSA. He was not going to go anyway because he had no accreditation but what made him running from their was they said to him “he is a convict and waiting for his sentence and criminals are not allowed in here till they cleared. Malema was screaming allegedly , fuming in typical Malema style. What does Julius Malema think he is. I guess a leopard never changes it spot. When this is what you will get

Goolam

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