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Google just admitted it can't build data centers fast enough, so it's planning on baking its AI model directly into the chip instead (Save this). Google's new Frozen v2 chip permanently embeds parts of Gemini's architecture into the silicon itself, cutting down on the calculations and data movement needed... show more
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Very natural progression because there is so much cheap fab in the world today.

连芯片都开始内置模型了,真快

baking model weights into silicon means you're frozen at that checkpoint. what happens when gemini 4 ships six months later?

Bullish compute.

great take Melvin!

thank you

not sure 'permanently embeds' is the win it looks like. chip tapeout to production is 18+ months and gemini's jumped major versions in that window. do they spin new silicon every release or just let the baked parts go stale?

Fake and stupid post

Baking model architecture into the chip ends the GPU procurement race for that workload, but silicon iterates every 2 to 3 years while model architecture iterates every 6 months. How do you keep a frozen chip from being architecturally obsolete before it even ships?

I think you are comparing two different things; Nvidia GPUs and Google's Frozen v2 chip are built for different purposes.

Google baking the model into the chip is the endgame of vertical integration. When inference is in silicon, API pricing dies and hardware licensing is born. This changes who captures margin in the AI stack completely. What does this do to model switching costs?

Congratulations they made an asic. The issue is that Ai models are constantly evolving. They would be implemented a hard solution to their silicon. It may not even be efficient compared to Chinese llm architecture which use better memory efficiency.

这ai功耗都快怼进指甲盖了吧

You can build for yourself, if you have money and scale. But the utility of this chips for customers other than Google is lower than NVIDIA, plus there is no roadmap

Freezing the architecture into silicon trades flexibility for efficiency. ASICs amortize 3-5 years; architectures shift every ~12 months. Frozen v2 bets Gemini's shape stays put, contradicting the field racing to change it. 6-10x/watt only pays if you stop innovating.

"Nvidia is their landlord and the rent is too damn high"

it's non stop!

yes sir

Aboslutely agree ,the compute crunch is real. Custom ASICs are the only path to sustainable AI unit economics.

well said

the goal isn't to speed up deployment, it's to lock everyone into their ecosystem.
