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⚡️Had an amazing chat with Jeff Booth ⚡️ about why most Bitcoiners will eventually sell for dollars, why 95% still price Bitcoin in fiat, how his view differs from Michael Saylor why he supports Knots and why it may take a higher consciousness to truly move your time into...

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47,321 views • 8 months ago

Should Strategy proactively sell Bitcoin now to protect shareholders later? Kaleo makes the case for selling, and gets pushback Kaleo: "Issuing MSTR is good here. If they were able to just unload a few billion dollars worth of Bitcoin and say the price didn't move way too much, we are being proactive. If they were able to sell that $1.25 billion of Bitcoin, that's bullish" "You're advocating for destroying shareholder value now to protect shareholder value in the future. Why would we be worried about Strategy being a forced seller if we're not worried about voluntarily selling now? That point I just don't get" Kaleo: "Where else is that 10 to 12 billion dollars coming from? They right now have talked about they are willing to sell the Bitcoin. If they sell some at a higher price, it eases a lot more of the concerns than if we get to 30k and we're in the same situation and they haven't sold any" "I can't get anyone to give me an answer on how much Bitcoin he can sell and why. You have no idea what would happen if he did that. What if he does it and Bitcoin goes to 30 and people are like we're done, he's out? You've destroyed more shareholder value than if Bitcoin just goes to 30, stays there 18 months, and he's forced to sell a couple billion. The most likely scenario is at some point in the next 12 months Bitcoin goes up enough that this isn't a problem"
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The Wolf Of All Streets

46,399 views • 1 month ago

E156: Matt Hougan from – $6.5M Bitcoin and the strongest Solana setup ever? This might be the most bullish yet rational episode we’ve done on the future of crypto: why debasement, institutional flows & tokenization are just getting started. Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 2:01 Matt’s Last Episode Popped Off 3:59 At Least 10x Left On The Crypto Marketplace? 4:36 Why Is Bitcoin Still Early 5:43 Who Are You 6:22 Two Ways To Win Framework With Bitcoin Explained 8:32 Where Does This 10x For Gold Come From 11:09 Partnerships: Jupiter KAST 11:45 Why Is A Higher Price In Gold Bullish For Bitcoin 12:49 Matt’s Portfolio Regarding Gold, Bitcoin, & Crypto 13:56 How Does 1 Bitcoin Reach $6.5 Million In 20 Years 15:03 How Could This Thesis Be Wrong 20:09 Why Hold Gold If Bitcoin Outperforms Massively 20:27 Wise & Boring vs Unwise & Exciting 21:40 Two Bets On Solana Explained 25:11 Confusion With Crypto Investing Explained 26:30 Why Matt Is Bullish On Solana Especially When Considering Other Blockchains 28:32 Why Institutional Investors Love Solana’s ETFs 30:00 Does Solana Have The Best Setup 30:31 How Big Could Solana Get In 10 Years 31:20 Partnerships: Paradex Zashi is now Zodl Mantle 33:19 Does This Same Bullishness Apply Across Gold & Bitcoin 34:34 Which Asset Could Be The Next Bitcoin Or Solana 35:35 Why It’s Important To Push For Institutional Adoption With Bitcoin 37:13 Is Your View Still Holding Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin? 38:27 What’s The Deal With Ethereum 39:18 Underestimating Sovereigns Buying Bitcoin In Size In 2026, Why This Matters 40:58 Why Is The Speed Of Tokenization & Stable Coin Growth Important 42:14 Partnerships: Trezor Sui 43:06 Debasement Of The Current Fiat System Explained 45:44 Dollar Devaluation In The Last 5 Years 46:16 Debasement Trading Will Be More Popular In 2026 48:00 How Do I Get Rich With Crypto In 2026 49:14 Alpha & Long Term Trends Build Wealth In Crypto 55:23 One Thing To Remember From Conversation
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E156: Matt Hougan from – $6.5M Bitcoin and the strongest Solana setup ever? This might be the most bullish yet rational episode we’ve done on the future of crypto: why debasement, institutional flows & tokenization are just getting started. Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 2:01 Matt’s Last Episode Popped Off 3:59 At Least 10x Left On The Crypto Marketplace? 4:36 Why Is Bitcoin Still Early 5:43 Who Are You 6:22 Two Ways To Win Framework With Bitcoin Explained 8:32 Where Does This 10x For Gold Come From 11:09 Partnerships: Jupiter KAST 11:45 Why Is A Higher Price In Gold Bullish For Bitcoin 12:49 Matt’s Portfolio Regarding Gold, Bitcoin, & Crypto 13:56 How Does 1 Bitcoin Reach $6.5 Million In 20 Years 15:03 How Could This Thesis Be Wrong 20:09 Why Hold Gold If Bitcoin Outperforms Massively 20:27 Wise & Boring vs Unwise & Exciting 21:40 Two Bets On Solana Explained 25:11 Confusion With Crypto Investing Explained 26:30 Why Matt Is Bullish On Solana Especially When Considering Other Blockchains 28:32 Why Institutional Investors Love Solana’s ETFs 30:00 Does Solana Have The Best Setup 30:31 How Big Could Solana Get In 10 Years 31:20 Partnerships: Paradex Zashi is now Zodl Mantle 33:19 Does This Same Bullishness Apply Across Gold & Bitcoin 34:34 Which Asset Could Be The Next Bitcoin Or Solana 35:35 Why It’s Important To Push For Institutional Adoption With Bitcoin 37:13 Is Your View Still Holding Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin? 38:27 What’s The Deal With Ethereum 39:18 Underestimating Sovereigns Buying Bitcoin In Size In 2026, Why This Matters 40:58 Why Is The Speed Of Tokenization & Stable Coin Growth Important 42:14 Partnerships: Trezor Sui 43:06 Debasement Of The Current Fiat System Explained 45:44 Dollar Devaluation In The Last 5 Years 46:16 Debasement Trading Will Be More Popular In 2026 48:00 How Do I Get Rich With Crypto In 2026 49:14 Alpha & Long Term Trends Build Wealth In Crypto 55:23 One Thing To Remember From Conversation

MR SHIFT 🦁

48,555 views • 6 months ago

🎙️ Why Bitcoin Is the Only Escape from Fiat Collapse Ep. 74 with Peter Dunworth on You’re The Voice | Podcast by Efrat Fenigson My guest today is Peter Dunworth, a wealth strategist with over two decades in traditional finance, and now founder of The Bitcoin Adviser, a company helping investors buy, secure and manage their bitcoin. From a background in mortgage broking and family office advisory, Peter has become a trusted guide for those transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin. We sat down at Bitcoin Alive in Sydney to unpack the collapse of the fiat system, how Bitcoin restores financial integrity, and why recent moves like the SAB 121 repeal and strategic reserves are double-edged swords. Peter explains why banks may soon pay you to borrow, how Michael Saylor rewrote the rules of treasury management, and why Australia’s economy is quietly in freefall. This episode is an honest look at the future of money, the power of self-custody, and why Bitcoin remains the ultimate tool for financial freedom. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 Coming Up… 01:22 Intro: Where is Bitcoin Adoption Today 04:30 “You Don’t Change Bitcoin, Bitcoin Changes You” 03:08 The Evolution of Bitcoin and Its Community 07:54 Self Custody with Trezor 08:23 BTC Prague 08:40 The Double-Edged Sword of Government Involvement 13:47 Intro to Peter & The Bitcoin Adviser 16:13 The Unsustainable Fiat System 19:33 How Will Bitcoin Change The Monetary System 22:05 Awareness Creation Via Shitcoins 22:48 Are We Witnessing The Change of World Monetary Order? 25:23 SAB 121: The Big News for Banking & Bitcoin 31:38 Australia's MacroEconomics & Societal Changes 37:43 MicroStrategy/Strategy’s Innovative Corporate Strategy 42:03 Free Markets, Bonds & Bitcoin's Role >>
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🎙️ Why Bitcoin Is the Only Escape from Fiat Collapse Ep. 74 with Peter Dunworth on You’re The Voice | Podcast by Efrat Fenigson My guest today is Peter Dunworth, a wealth strategist with over two decades in traditional finance, and now founder of The Bitcoin Adviser, a company helping investors buy, secure and manage their bitcoin. From a background in mortgage broking and family office advisory, Peter has become a trusted guide for those transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin. We sat down at Bitcoin Alive in Sydney to unpack the collapse of the fiat system, how Bitcoin restores financial integrity, and why recent moves like the SAB 121 repeal and strategic reserves are double-edged swords. Peter explains why banks may soon pay you to borrow, how Michael Saylor rewrote the rules of treasury management, and why Australia’s economy is quietly in freefall. This episode is an honest look at the future of money, the power of self-custody, and why Bitcoin remains the ultimate tool for financial freedom. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 Coming Up… 01:22 Intro: Where is Bitcoin Adoption Today 04:30 “You Don’t Change Bitcoin, Bitcoin Changes You” 03:08 The Evolution of Bitcoin and Its Community 07:54 Self Custody with Trezor 08:23 BTC Prague 08:40 The Double-Edged Sword of Government Involvement 13:47 Intro to Peter & The Bitcoin Adviser 16:13 The Unsustainable Fiat System 19:33 How Will Bitcoin Change The Monetary System 22:05 Awareness Creation Via Shitcoins 22:48 Are We Witnessing The Change of World Monetary Order? 25:23 SAB 121: The Big News for Banking & Bitcoin 31:38 Australia's MacroEconomics & Societal Changes 37:43 MicroStrategy/Strategy’s Innovative Corporate Strategy 42:03 Free Markets, Bonds & Bitcoin's Role >>

Efrat Fenigson

40,749 views • 1 year ago

🎙 The Sujal Show Ep. 10: Yat Siu “The Man Behind Sandbox, Axie Infinity & 600+ Crypto" Animoca Brands co-founder Yat Siu reveals his 400x return, why altcoins could beat Bitcoin, how agentic AI will reshape distribution, why he loves bear markets, and the 3 tokens he’s bullish on. We Discussed on The Sujal Show: - How Animoca went from mobile games to 600+ crypto investments - How a $300M seed round became a $10B valuation - How CryptoKitties crashing Ethereum in 2017 changed everything - 4,000% returns & his biggest investing mistake - How Apple, Google, and X censor crypto and how agents break through - Why he’s more bullish on utility tokens than memecoins - Why he believes the 4-year cycle isn’t dead - His 3 filters for finding Top projects - Why education is a $7‑10 trillion market - Why he is bullish on agentic AI, education, and digital identity - 3 altcoins he is bullish on - Next BIG narratives in crypto - Why he avoids prediction markets TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:56 Who is he & what does he do today? 02:27 3 things he’s most proud of in 35 years 07:06 First heard about Bitcoin in 2014, why it didn’t click 10:30 Next big crypto narrative (2026 & beyond) 18:22 AI agents: what comes after automation? 26:07 AI altcoins with massive potential 28:43 Biggest return from 600+ investments 36:05 Why bear markets create real opportunities 37:06 How to invest $1K–$10K in crypto (beginner portfolio) 40:00 Will altcoins outperform Bitcoin? 49:09 Framework for finding 100x projects 51:51 Biggest loss & lessons learned 54:13 How to start a career as a VC (step-by-step) 56:01 Final advice before leaving the world He turned $4M into a billion‑dollar ecosystem. Now he’s betting on AI agents and digital identity. Watch the full episode 👇
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🎙 The Sujal Show Ep. 10: Yat Siu “The Man Behind Sandbox, Axie Infinity & 600+ Crypto" Animoca Brands co-founder Yat Siu reveals his 400x return, why altcoins could beat Bitcoin, how agentic AI will reshape distribution, why he loves bear markets, and the 3 tokens he’s bullish on. We Discussed on The Sujal Show: - How Animoca went from mobile games to 600+ crypto investments - How a $300M seed round became a $10B valuation - How CryptoKitties crashing Ethereum in 2017 changed everything - 4,000% returns & his biggest investing mistake - How Apple, Google, and X censor crypto and how agents break through - Why he’s more bullish on utility tokens than memecoins - Why he believes the 4-year cycle isn’t dead - His 3 filters for finding Top projects - Why education is a $7‑10 trillion market - Why he is bullish on agentic AI, education, and digital identity - 3 altcoins he is bullish on - Next BIG narratives in crypto - Why he avoids prediction markets TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:56 Who is he & what does he do today? 02:27 3 things he’s most proud of in 35 years 07:06 First heard about Bitcoin in 2014, why it didn’t click 10:30 Next big crypto narrative (2026 & beyond) 18:22 AI agents: what comes after automation? 26:07 AI altcoins with massive potential 28:43 Biggest return from 600+ investments 36:05 Why bear markets create real opportunities 37:06 How to invest $1K–$10K in crypto (beginner portfolio) 40:00 Will altcoins outperform Bitcoin? 49:09 Framework for finding 100x projects 51:51 Biggest loss & lessons learned 54:13 How to start a career as a VC (step-by-step) 56:01 Final advice before leaving the world He turned $4M into a billion‑dollar ecosystem. Now he’s betting on AI agents and digital identity. Watch the full episode 👇

Sujal Jethwani

20,842 views • 4 months ago

🚨 STRC IS NEXT BLACK SWAN FOR BITCOIN Saylor's STRC just crashed to record low $82. 18% drop in days. But almost nobody sees what's coming next. Now Saylor's Ponzi could destroy Bitcoin. Here's why: He promised investors 11.5% dividends. Now the structure is breaking. On June 30 he faces a critical deadline. To defend STRC's $100 peg, he'll be forced to raise dividends or borrow more. Both options require massive cash. And the only quick source left is selling Bitcoin. Last time he sold $2M worth, Bitcoin dropped 20%. Now imagine what happens when he needs to sell billions. Saylor says his $55B Bitcoin stash can cover it for 32 years. But the market simply doesn't believe him. That’s why $STRC is trading at such a deep discount. And this is the real irony: Saylor admitted he built this entire complex debt structure with ChatGPT. A multi-billion dollar leveraged pyramid, designed by AI. And we all know the kind of garbage AI can produce. This is no longer “HODL”. MicroStrategy is turning from Bitcoin’s biggest buyer into one of its biggest risks. When it collapses, it won’t just take down $STRC. It will drag Bitcoin with it. Remember, I've called every major turn for the last 10 years, including short BTC from $111K in October and Saylor's sell-off before they happened. The next call will be bigger. Watch closely. Turn on notifications. Most people will follow too late. Don't be one of them.
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🚨 STRC IS NEXT BLACK SWAN FOR BITCOIN Saylor's STRC just crashed to record low $82. 18% drop in days. But almost nobody sees what's coming next. Now Saylor's Ponzi could destroy Bitcoin. Here's why: He promised investors 11.5% dividends. Now the structure is breaking. On June 30 he faces a critical deadline. To defend STRC's $100 peg, he'll be forced to raise dividends or borrow more. Both options require massive cash. And the only quick source left is selling Bitcoin. Last time he sold $2M worth, Bitcoin dropped 20%. Now imagine what happens when he needs to sell billions. Saylor says his $55B Bitcoin stash can cover it for 32 years. But the market simply doesn't believe him. That’s why $STRC is trading at such a deep discount. And this is the real irony: Saylor admitted he built this entire complex debt structure with ChatGPT. A multi-billion dollar leveraged pyramid, designed by AI. And we all know the kind of garbage AI can produce. This is no longer “HODL”. MicroStrategy is turning from Bitcoin’s biggest buyer into one of its biggest risks. When it collapses, it won’t just take down $STRC. It will drag Bitcoin with it. Remember, I've called every major turn for the last 10 years, including short BTC from $111K in October and Saylor's sell-off before they happened. The next call will be bigger. Watch closely. Turn on notifications. Most people will follow too late. Don't be one of them.

MARMOT

92,333 views • 1 month ago

E172: Michael Saylor: Why Hard Work Won't Make You Rich Michael Saylor is the chairman of Strategy - the world's largest corporate holder of Bitcoin with over 840,000 BTC and $65+ billion deployed. He bought his first Bitcoin in 2020 when the Fed cut rates to zero hasn't stopped since. With WSH, I always want to go much deeper than the current narrative and that’s exactly what we did here. We gradually moved past the surface and into the things that really shaped Michael. We talked about his childhood, growing up in a military family, buying domain names in the 1990s and flipping them for tens of millions, losing $6 billion of his net worth in a single day during the dot-com bubble, his great Apple bet in 2012, why working hard won't make you rich, why you should mortgage your house but probably not sell your kidney to buy BTC, why "THERE IS NO SECOND BEST", and a lot more. The conversation lasted more than two hours, much longer than originally planned, and it was just amazing. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:05 - Explain what you do to an Uber driver 05:35 - Advice for Rick, the struggling Uber driver 07:07 - Who is Michael Saylor? 11:02 - Sponsors Trezor & Bitwise 11:48 - Kevin's Business Intelligence Company 13:14 - Michael's childhood and chip on the shoulder 17:56 - Has Michael conquered the world yet? 19:49 - Just because you can, doesn't mean you should 28:23 - Sponsors KAST & Sumsub 30:02 - Low time preference and scarcity 43:50 - Buying and flipping domain names for tens of millions 55:11 - Bitcoin is a lifeboat 1:01:31 - Should you mortage your house to buy Bitcoin? 1:09:50 - The great $60B in Bitcoin bet: risks 1:15:32 - Sponsors Jupiter , Ethena 1:16:16 - Sell the kidney if you must but keep the Bitcoin 1:20:14 - What's the endgame for Strategy? 1:28:16 - Where does Bitcoin price end? 1:29:36 - Where would Bitcoin price be without Michael Saylor? 1:31:06 - What is STRC? 1:35:34 - Should my mom put her life savings in STRC? 1:37:12 - How do you always invent new ways to buy more Bitcoin? 1:49:19 - From God to Madman every 6 months: handling insane volatility 1:51:49 - How Michael lost $6 Billion of his net worth in one single day in 2000 and then watched MSTR go down another 99% 1:59:09 - Why Michael doesn't have children 1:59:44 - Why working hard is the worst advice you can get 2:07:37 - Why THERE IS NO SECOND BEST, there is only one crypto asset 2:15:03 - Thanking Michael from the whole crypto industry
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E172: Michael Saylor: Why Hard Work Won't Make You Rich Michael Saylor is the chairman of Strategy - the world's largest corporate holder of Bitcoin with over 840,000 BTC and $65+ billion deployed. He bought his first Bitcoin in 2020 when the Fed cut rates to zero hasn't stopped since. With WSH, I always want to go much deeper than the current narrative and that’s exactly what we did here. We gradually moved past the surface and into the things that really shaped Michael. We talked about his childhood, growing up in a military family, buying domain names in the 1990s and flipping them for tens of millions, losing $6 billion of his net worth in a single day during the dot-com bubble, his great Apple bet in 2012, why working hard won't make you rich, why you should mortgage your house but probably not sell your kidney to buy BTC, why "THERE IS NO SECOND BEST", and a lot more. The conversation lasted more than two hours, much longer than originally planned, and it was just amazing. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:05 - Explain what you do to an Uber driver 05:35 - Advice for Rick, the struggling Uber driver 07:07 - Who is Michael Saylor? 11:02 - Sponsors Trezor & Bitwise 11:48 - Kevin's Business Intelligence Company 13:14 - Michael's childhood and chip on the shoulder 17:56 - Has Michael conquered the world yet? 19:49 - Just because you can, doesn't mean you should 28:23 - Sponsors KAST & Sumsub 30:02 - Low time preference and scarcity 43:50 - Buying and flipping domain names for tens of millions 55:11 - Bitcoin is a lifeboat 1:01:31 - Should you mortage your house to buy Bitcoin? 1:09:50 - The great $60B in Bitcoin bet: risks 1:15:32 - Sponsors Jupiter , Ethena 1:16:16 - Sell the kidney if you must but keep the Bitcoin 1:20:14 - What's the endgame for Strategy? 1:28:16 - Where does Bitcoin price end? 1:29:36 - Where would Bitcoin price be without Michael Saylor? 1:31:06 - What is STRC? 1:35:34 - Should my mom put her life savings in STRC? 1:37:12 - How do you always invent new ways to buy more Bitcoin? 1:49:19 - From God to Madman every 6 months: handling insane volatility 1:51:49 - How Michael lost $6 Billion of his net worth in one single day in 2000 and then watched MSTR go down another 99% 1:59:09 - Why Michael doesn't have children 1:59:44 - Why working hard is the worst advice you can get 2:07:37 - Why THERE IS NO SECOND BEST, there is only one crypto asset 2:15:03 - Thanking Michael from the whole crypto industry

MR SHIFT 🦁

1,499,541 views • 2 months ago

🎙️Banks Will Bow to Bitcoin Ep. 98 with Max Kei My guest today is Max Kei, former private banker and founder of Debifi, the world’s largest non-custodial Bitcoin-backed lending platform for institutions. With over a decade in private banking and deep experience building peer-to-peer Bitcoin infrastructure at Hodl Hodl and launching the Baltic Honeybadger conference, Max has become a leading voice on how Bitcoin will reshape global finance. In this episode, he explains why banks will adapt to Bitcoin rather than be destroyed by it, how Switzerland is quietly becoming the prototype for Bitcoin-banking integration, and why non-custodial finance is essential to prevent the next FTX-style collapse. We explore the tradeoffs between custodial and non-custodial systems, the security advantages of three-of-four multisig for institutional loans, and why stablecoins act as both a lifeline in emerging markets and a gateway to a full Bitcoin standard. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 - Coming Up 01:20 - Introduction to Max Kai: Bitcoin Pioneer 04:50 - Baltic Honey Badger Conference Origins 10:27 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault 11:50 - Bitcoin’s Community Ethos, Mission & Conferences 19:00 - Max’ Intro to Bitcoin Through A Client 20:50 - Gradually Moving From Fiat To Bitcoin 30:40 - When Will Banking Join Bitcoin? 32:53 - Switzerland's Role in Bitcoin Banking 38:03 - Rehypothication, Non-Custodial, Multisig Solutions 42:01 - Flexible Lending Platforms & Security Measures 56:13 - Max’s Take On Stablecoins: A Bridge to Bitcoin 1:08:18 - Max Motivations, Aspiration & Hope >>
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🎙️Banks Will Bow to Bitcoin Ep. 98 with Max Kei My guest today is Max Kei, former private banker and founder of Debifi, the world’s largest non-custodial Bitcoin-backed lending platform for institutions. With over a decade in private banking and deep experience building peer-to-peer Bitcoin infrastructure at Hodl Hodl and launching the Baltic Honeybadger conference, Max has become a leading voice on how Bitcoin will reshape global finance. In this episode, he explains why banks will adapt to Bitcoin rather than be destroyed by it, how Switzerland is quietly becoming the prototype for Bitcoin-banking integration, and why non-custodial finance is essential to prevent the next FTX-style collapse. We explore the tradeoffs between custodial and non-custodial systems, the security advantages of three-of-four multisig for institutional loans, and why stablecoins act as both a lifeline in emerging markets and a gateway to a full Bitcoin standard. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! 00:00 - Coming Up 01:20 - Introduction to Max Kai: Bitcoin Pioneer 04:50 - Baltic Honey Badger Conference Origins 10:27 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault 11:50 - Bitcoin’s Community Ethos, Mission & Conferences 19:00 - Max’ Intro to Bitcoin Through A Client 20:50 - Gradually Moving From Fiat To Bitcoin 30:40 - When Will Banking Join Bitcoin? 32:53 - Switzerland's Role in Bitcoin Banking 38:03 - Rehypothication, Non-Custodial, Multisig Solutions 42:01 - Flexible Lending Platforms & Security Measures 56:13 - Max’s Take On Stablecoins: A Bridge to Bitcoin 1:08:18 - Max Motivations, Aspiration & Hope >>

Efrat Fenigson

19,538 views • 10 months ago