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Here is a simple answer to this attempt to debunk the argument

15,091 次观看 • 3 个月前 •via X (Twitter)

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Zakir Hussain 的头像
Zakir Hussain3 个月前

Attempt? The only "attempt" being made are by you using old stale arguments that are super weak. There has not been a Christian born who can prove Jesus is God let alone from the Tanach

KayKayy 的头像
KayKayy3 个月前

Thank you for clarifying this bro i wouldve never guessed!!

Elijah Johnson 的头像
Elijah Johnson3 个月前

Im over here giving the keys of knowledge right here 😭

Bruce Lee 的头像
Bruce Lee3 个月前

Watch this session: There is another major difference since the word shem (name) is not used in 33:16, whereas it does appear in 23:6. 33:16 since the text does not say "and this is the name by which she will be called." This significant and proves that the King, unlike Jerusalem, bears the very nature of YHWH since that is what shem points to.

كال 的头像
كال3 个月前

Would you like to discuss this on live? My username is @biblehafidh on TikTok

Othman 的头像
Othman3 个月前

Thank you for cooking yourself :D You are doing special pleading fallacy now .. You are saying the messiah is God because he has the full YHWH in his name But Jerusalem (which has the full YHWH in its name too) can’t be God because no one thinks the city is god LOOOOOOOL No one thinks a man is god too 😅 If Jesus can be a person of the 3 person group u call god .. then Jerusalem can be the 4th member in that group.

Shamsudeen Babatunde 的头像
Shamsudeen Babatunde3 个月前

I thought I was going to hear a real refutation but all I heard is special pleading. If Sheikh Uthman knew or remembered this, you would have been stuttering throughout that conversation. Both passages use the same prophetic formula in the same context: • A righteous Branch from David • Execution of justice and righteousness • Judah saved / security for the people • “This is the name by which he / it will be called: YHWH Tsidkenu” The mere presence of the full YHWH in Jeremiah 23:6, even when applied to a person, does not force the conclusion that the person is Yahweh. It functions the same way the other full-YHWH compound names function. It describes the righteousness that comes from YHWH and is provided through this king.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ Do you have an ontological argument for your position?

Sabr 的头像
Sabr3 个月前

That weakens ur argument. If Jerusalem can bear theKing’s title w/out being theKing, then theMessiah can bear a theophoric title w/out being YHWH. Sharing a divine title doesn’t establish identity. It points 2 YHWH as the source of righteousness working through His anointed King.

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zckty3 个月前

Btw another thing to add is that the Hebrew in Jeremiah 33:16 doesnt even have the word “name”, that’s just a modern addition to make it sound nice and more consistent, the real reading would be “she will be called YHWH is our righteousness”, different then it’s name being “YHWH”

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👹3 个月前

Your video refutes itself. You. Idiot. Like are you joking me? You just explained that names can have the name of god included in it. 😂 Destroyed yourself.

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AS1923 个月前

Oh so now with Jeremiah 33, suddenly the context matters!!! Yeah we can all smell the cope all the way from Jerusalem!! Thanks for confirming that Jeremiah 23 = Jesus is God, is low IQ apologetic slop.

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TimelessmsgX3 个月前

Sometimes I feel pity for Christian missionaries who are forced to drag us into an endless labyrinth of wordplay, terminology, and translations just to prove the divinity of Christ, only for the outcome to be vague, superficial, and unclear. Even though it should be completely natural for the conclusion to be instantaneous and crystal clear from the mere reading of the claim. What kind of god is this who puts you in such an embarrassing position just to deduce his divinity?

"Saint" Karl Marx 的头像
"Saint" Karl Marx3 个月前

Elijah: the argument is that places in the Bible are named after the GOD who saves it. Jesus is the king who saves Jerusalem (and the world), that's why he's identified as YHWH our righteousness. No one else is Pagans: I'll ignore that and still claim your argument doesn't work

RIO 的头像
RIO3 个月前

Your argument sucks. 😂😂 Jerusalem is called the exact same thing 😂 Go ahead and worship Jerusalem

Saint Collins 的头像
Saint Collins3 个月前

Bible says, the head of Syria is Damascus. And the head of Damascus is Rezin- Isaiah 7:8 Now, Concerning Jerusalem regarded as the most high city. what made Jerusalem as the most high is the seat of Messiah in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is regarded as the city of God Hope that help

MacG-313 的头像
MacG-3133 个月前

Amen.

Sabr 的头像
Sabr3 个月前

@grok if we strictly followed his logic, Jerusalem also has that name (from Jeremiah 23:6 in jeremaih 33:16), therefore Jerusalem is most high God

Sabr 的头像
Sabr3 个月前

@Mo_Gee_wp lmao I swear you just cook him on this argument in the chat on the 1st that he even tries to use you argument by using your example of about the name elijah lmao I cant with these Christards on social media

David Albert 的头像
David Albert3 个月前

Dude stop embarrassing yourself and coping! This looks bad on Christianity

سـ 的头像
سـ3 个月前

this guy is reading off chatgpt 😭😭

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i left Christianity 3 years ago3 个月前

Who’s the 1 true god that is to be worshipped and created all things ! Can any Christian answer which hod is to be worshipped !??! 1’or all of them ?

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Cross Licker3 个月前

There are 45,000 different denominations for a reasons. Christians are brain dead followers, who believe anything their leaders/preachers tell them. This is pure brain rot word and text twisting. These pagans make me sick.

johnsmithdsa 的头像
johnsmithdsa3 个月前

You haven’t refuted it.

Sasa 的头像
Sasa3 个月前

👉

Roman 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 的头像
Roman 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸3 个月前

Jesus couldn't defend himself as God So you think you can? 🤡

זאק | زاك 的头像
זאק | زاك3 个月前

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Middah 的头像
Middah3 个月前

Don’t run from @hockeyguy199229 he challenged you to a debate you would get SMOKED on this argument.

John Doe 的头像
John Doe3 个月前

Just how you said a place is named after God, replace it with the person and you have the Messiah. 🤡 And if you wanna refute that and say theres no where else that that happens to a person then DUH! Why would there be another instance for the messiah?

Ill 的头像
Ill3 个月前

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 is this the best you pagan demigod worshipers have? Humiliating

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sunless3 个月前

Okay so the core argument is even in Jeremiah 33:16 its talking about massiah. Who bears the name is the question not why the name is bore P 1: if an entity is called by YHWH name than its YHWH P 2: Jerusalem, temple , isralites are called by YHWH name Concl: hence they are GOD Thr argument he originally made never took into account for why an entity bears the name YHWH but it was solely focused on who bears name Otherwise a person can just get on and say Massiah is called YHWH cause he a representative of god.

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